Indian AESA Radar Developments
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Ok, just read the article. And going by this concept too, it take a whole lot more than AN/APY-9 to generate a good enough tack. It’s just one sensor in amongst the pool of sensors.What you talking about ?Phoenix AAM by E-2D? Phoenix AAM was retired in early millennium and E-2D program was not started until 2007.
And here
Navy Training Squadron Receives First E-2D Hawkeye With New Aerial Refueling Capability
The unit will now begin training aircrews to make use of the plane's new capabilities ahead of plans to begin converting operational units next year.www.thedrive.com
Obviously CEC is always about fusion and cooperative targeting and work as force multiplier.
But E-2D capable to provide firing solution.
By that logic even a small sensor located in remote desert can provide
firing solutions too.
Even in the official video, it was DDG which was tracking the hostile SAM and Fighter jet, because it has S band radar, others were contributing to the data.
UHF/VHF radar have poor resolution and are susceptible to jamming but as mentioned above space time adaptive/ processing can be used to overcome poor resolution problem. but can it be used for providing accurate firing solution for a missile ? Look like E-2D has such capability.
I was looking at this nebo-M radar complex brochure and it say it has a resolution of 500mt and range of 500km for 1m2 target.
now can it be used to say guide a big S 400 missile like 48n6E or 40N6 just close enough before there huge seekers take over for terminal engagement.
These missiles have a big Radome.
I was looking at this nebo-M radar complex brochure and it say it has a resolution of 500mt and range of 500km for 1m2 target.
now can it be used to say guide a big S 400 missile like 48n6E or 40N6 just close enough before there huge seekers take over for terminal engagement.
These missiles have a big Radome.
Yes given that problem plaguing it can be overcome.
That’s why I said that except US, Japan and possibly France Nevy no one currently poses such capability. Turkey developing CEC is like Pakistan designing F1 car. I mean it’s in the realm of possibility but it’s almost impossible.
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Powerful GaN based X band AESA FCR are the best bet then. let say if one manage to put a radar like an/typ-2 on a plane.
than one can provide a firing solution for a ground base missile hidden say close to Pakistani border or long range AAM to shoot down an f 16 or there awacs flying deep in Pakistani airspace while your plane fly comfortable over central India.
is it possible?
so whats your point?
Our CEC of P-15A/B/P-17A is also based on S-band/MF-STAR.
My point is a High Frequency/Short wavelength radar is must for cueing. You can supplement it but can’t replace it with any Low frequency radars.
BTW have we tested our CEC capability yet ?
We do have all the components necessary . It’s high time we should fast track the development.
That is US . Our entire CEC , even of our BMD is based on S /L/UHF band.
some one claimed our Falcon AWACS and even NETRA has target cueing capability?
I can’t even find in which bandwidth they operate. Do you have any idea?
And is their any source confirming that claim?
Are the at least integrated in something like CEC ?
I believe we have sufficient number and quality of sensors along border and in airspace to create our own CEC
I don't think so, till now only Navy showcased/displayed CEC. Even if Phalcon or emb-145 AEW&CS hold CEC capability, it is useless.
AF needs to develop data protocols for CEC, and equip aircraft with Data Links. And then demonstrate such capability, Right now only Tejas Mk1A and Rafale will have DL capabilities .
With the Phalcon, no. With NETRA, it's possible, but not sure if it has been implemented.
Otherwise, except Astra, which is our own missile, other missiles will not have any sort of integration with our AWACS.
That can be overcome using GaN right?
This DRDO S band AESA(GaN) can track a golf ball size target more than 2000 km away( source DFI). It's probably being used in Indian ABM system for cueing.
as you said that india BMD is based on S/L/UHF band and if this thing can track a golf ball size target more than 2000 km away as claimed and provide a firing solution than it can also track a F-22 more than 700km away. Why not put a slimmer version of it on a plane for OTH capability for time being to provide firing solution for ground base SAM or long range AAM ? as @Arpit sad that we lag in building X band radar. we can use lower band for targeting until X band FCR come along.
@randomradio is it possible?
I don’t know anything about it man. I’m just an enthusiast.
The radar looks similar to Green Pine. Which itself is very capable dual band radar.
2000 km seems exaggerated but then it’s not impossible.
Do we have any X band radar?
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I doubt it's 2000km. A football size object emitting radiation perhaps can be detected.
Our BMD uses X band for targeting. It's a radar from France developed jointly.
We also have our own X band radars coming up.
is it MFCR which is coming.
can you elaborate how it is done? can porkis really do this with chinese awacs and pl 15.