Indian AESA Radar Developments

So the recent reported Turkey shooting of Syrian fighters using AWaCS guidance was nonsense?
Yes. Garbage. Turkey don’t even have their own AWACS program or any good AAMs development program. They rely on Western companies for technology.
Only US had a project to cue Phoenix AAM with E3 Sentry, which I believe still relied on the aircraft for illumination. They also tried that in SM1.

Turkey is nothing but European version of Pakistan. They are propagandists
 
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Yeas, it can. It may not give direct feed to aam but definitely can give firing solution to the fighter jet in the case of its radar is in silent mode.And again netra & phalcon ( not compatible with su30) have that capacity. But pblm is a single awacs cannot controll the entire fighter in air and bigger problem is we dont have awacs in numbers
I think even mki can give firing solution for near by mki, so logically speaking awacs should have and it had also
 
Yeas, it can. It may not give direct feed to aam but definitely can give firing solution to the fighter jet in the case of its radar is in silent mode.And again netra & phalcon ( not compatible with su30) have that capacity. But pblm is a single awacs cannot controll the entire fighter in air and bigger problem is we dont have awacs in numbers
I think even mki can give firing solution for near by mki, so logically speaking awacs should have and it had also
well using SDR aircraft can communicate with each other and AWACS.
 
well using SDR aircraft can communicate with each other and AWACS.
SDR is for a radio communication for voice command. You need dedicated data links between awacs & the fighter in air.A awacs can generate the firing solution for an aam similar to the mission computer of fighter jet used to generate, and that complete firing solution can be feed to the fighter. With voice command its impossible.
 
Yeas, it can. It may not give direct feed to aam but definitely can give firing solution to the fighter jet in the case of its radar is in silent mode.And again netra & phalcon ( not compatible with su30) have that capacity. But pblm is a single awacs cannot controll the entire fighter in air and bigger problem is we dont have awacs in numbers
I think even mki can give firing solution for near by mki, so logically speaking awacs should have and it had also
Provide a link of your bogus claim.

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HF/VHF/UHF/L used for AWACS.
Low energy, long range, low fidelity

X/Ku/Ka used for Fire control
Short range, high energy, High fidelity

No one have,till today placed a fire control radar on an AWACS plane, neither any type of AAM.

Fire control radar of a fighter jet or AEGIS in a naval vessel can definitely give fire control solution to any AAM/SAM via data link
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Provide a link of your bogus claim.


Now you can provide the links for your claims and Turkish awacs details, afaik Turkey do operate wedgetail

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Not sure what are you trying to prove ? That NATO has AWACS planes ?
If anything revalent, take a screen shot and post it here, but I highly doubt it.
Its all useless information there
@Hydra
 
HF/VHF/UHF/L used for AWACS.
Low energy, long range, low fidelity

X/Ku/Ka used for Fire control
Short range, high energy, High fidelity

No one have,till today placed a fire control radar on an AWACS plane, neither any type of AAM.

Fire control radar of a fighter jet or AEGIS in a naval vessel can definitely give fire control solution to any AAM/SAM via data link
@randomradio

You do know MF-STAR is S-band? Whole Indian BMD system going to based on S and UHF band for providing a firing solution?
 
You do know MF-STAR is S-band? Whole Indian BMD system going to based on S and UHF band for providing a firing solution?
. MF-STAR is an acronym of Multi-Function Surveillance, Track And Guidance Radar. It works in S band (hybrid radar as per some sources)therefore can guide Radar guided missiles.
Indian naval ships have separate Thales LW-08 long range volume search radar

AWACS stands for Airborne Warning and Control System. It is a mobile, long-range radar surveillance and control center for air defense. No guidance component AFAIK.
 
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. MF-STAR is an acronym of Multi-Function Surveillance, Track And Guidance Radar. It works in S band (hybrid radar as per some sources)therefore can guide Radar guides missiles.

AWACS stands for Airborne Warning and Control System. It is a mobile, long-range radar surveillance and control center for air defense. No guidance component AFAIK.
Who told you that? All E-2D with AN/APY-9 radar (which is in UHF band) provide firing solution as part of US Navy's CEC.


And there is nothing like hybrid radar, all AESA radars capable to provide firing solution (if software part is developed and fine tuned).
 
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Who told you that? All E-2D with AN/APY-9 radar (which is in UHF band) provide firing solution as part of US Navy's CEC.

And there is nothing like hybrid radar, all AESA radars capable to provide firing solution (if software part is developed and fine tuned).
As mentioned already there was a program to cue Phoenix AAM using E2D radar but I’m not sure what happened later. Apparently it was axed by USN.
Even then Phoenix used
Semi-active radar homing and terminal phase active radar homing

Also can you please mention source of your claim regarding AN/APY-9 ?
 
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As mentioned already there was a program to cue Phoenix AAM using E2D radar but I’m not sure what happened later. Apparently it was axed by USN.

Also can you please mention source of your claim regarding AN/APY-9 ?
What you talking about ?Phoenix AAM by E-2D? Phoenix AAM was retired in early millennium and E-2D program was not started until 2007.

And here

The Advanced Hawkeyes have also become a central node in the Navy's cooperative engagement capability (CEC) efforts, which include service's overarching Naval Integrated Fire Control-Counter-Air (NIFC-CA) networking concept, which The War Zone has covered extensively. In this role, E-2Ds can already significantly extend the reach of both the carrier air wing's aircraft and weapons on ships in the carrier strike group. The data fusion and relay functions the aircraft provides also allows those other assets to engage targets beyond the range of their own sensors, something you can read about in more detail here.
 
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Space time adaptive processing is probably the solution for UHF, VHF radar to overcome poor resolution and targeting capability.
Northrop Grumman and Lockheed Martin appear to have overcome the traditional limitations of UHF-band radars in the APY-9 by applying a combination of advanced electronic scanning capability together with enormous digital computing power in the form of space/time adaptive processing.
The Navy would not directly address the issue, but service officials did say the APY-9 provides a massive increase in performance over the E-2C Hawkeye 2000’s radar.
S band radar are better suited for ship for simple reason they are not affected by poor weather conditions quite common in sea compared to X band.
 
Space time adaptive processing is probably the solution for UHF, VHF radar to overcome poor resolution and targeting capability.

S band radar are better suited for ship for simple reason they are not affected by poor weather conditions quite common in sea compared to X band.
This is also wrong to conclude. AN/SPY-3 is X-band, also radar for THAAD is AN/TPY-2, which is also X-band. The latest radar from Raytheon is AN/SPX-6 V, which is dual band.

We are very much behind in R&D of x-band AESA radars as well as dual-band radars.

I hope development of Uttam lead to development of larger and bigger X band radars and ultimately to dual band radars.

Such dual band radars totally negate the stealth capabilities of our enemies stealth aircrafts which are mostly fine tuned for single band/x band.
 
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This is also wrong to conclude. AN/SPY-3 is X-band, also radar for THAAD is AN/TPY-2, which is also X-band. The latest radar from Raytheon is AN/SPX-6 V, which is dual band.

We are very much behind in R&D of x-band AESA radars as well as dual-band radars.
increased attenuation at X band during heavy rain reduce its range compared to say C or S band but this can be overcome using brute power or modern efficient X band radars like AN/SPY-3. no doubt that X band are best suited for the job given there size and power limitation can be overcome which is possible now given advancement in material science.... but aren't we discussing using lower band radars for targeting capabilities ?