That's exactly what we need- multifunction radars - rather than multi-channel (euphemism for multiple role-specific radars) combat systems on our surface ships.
Indian AESA Radar Developments
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Do antena size of AESA had that much role in detection range, i am no expert in it but if i am not wrong it depends upon the individual transducer power rating.
Larger dia means more number of transducer, more number of transducer means more power requirements & that wont be a problem for naval vessels. One good thing about increased transducer is it give high density data so s/n will be high and will have better resolution data.
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06 Talwar class (planned)
03 P-17 (planned)
where did you read that talwars & shivaliks are getting MFSTAR????
i'll believe it when it happens. The costs written don't make sense. The entire proposition doesn't make sense. You cant just willy-nilly change the main radar of the ship. Requires a lot of investment in changing ship superstructure & weight distribution. Add to that you'll be ditching Fregat M2EM, MR-90 Orekh, Shtil-1 combo. Then you'll have to pay to modify the russian architecture to add MFSTAR+Barak8 [which in itself is extremely expensive]. Nah.....makes no economic sense.
Most likely the arm launcher will be replaced with VLS launched shtil and the klub missiles will be replaced with brahmos. This will increase its offensive & defensive capabilities while being cost effective.
Missiles are paired to certain radars. You cant just drag & drop missiles and pair them up with other systems. Why do you think Shivaliks are much more expensive than talwars? Its the 2 different SAMs that come with their own Illumination radars & search radars.
That's exactly what I meant. Large dia radar panels = more TRMs, higher radiated power, better ECCM, etc. At 6m, LRMFR will be bigger in size than even SPY-6 Aegis iirc.
Like the latter, LRMFR can be developed into a family of modular radars of varying ranges to equip ships corvette-sized and above.
Nothing official at the moment. We know the general dimensions because of a press release/investor update from Astra Microwave which is building a prototype for testing aboard INS Anvesha.
Apparently, the radar is also being used at a DRDO missile testing site (Chandipur?)
For more info, check past threads. There should be a pic/schematic of it.
We need something like this to replace Fregat M2EM.
PLAN replaced Type 382 (Fregat copy) with this new system on Type 54B.
The MFSTAR-RA (presumably meaning Rotating Array) projected for Shivalik & Talwar upgrade, would likely be something very similar.
If the upgrade program is pursued, that is.
The land based LB-MFSTAR has a rotating array. Perhaps that's an option for Talwar MLU. That's just one option, though.
Elta also has the EL/M- 2258 which is marketed as a lightweight solution for smaller ships. The upcoming Reshef-class corvette for Israel will sport the latter. Makes me think that's the one we might go for as well.
Elta also has the EL/M- 2258 which is marketed as a lightweight solution for smaller ships. The upcoming Reshef-class corvette for Israel will sport the latter. Makes me think that's the one we might go for as well.
It's not Russian but drdo own Very long range radar, data patterns won the contract for development and installation.
We should never trust Twitter accounts that do not provide sources. It is almost always half-truths.
That may be true but will Line of sight allow that range to be utilized? I think, to utilize higher range. it need to fitted at a greater height.
You're right. But in the case of the Talwar class, there may be topside weight concerns. This is probably why they have an exposed lattice mast in the first place. Otoh, they carry the Ka-31 AEW helo so their radar horizon might be bigger than other ships of its size/vintage.
I wish, been looking on information of that radar since 2023. I made myself an estimate here :
On range and potentials of the radar. I made mistake in the antenna area, as for sake of quick value i use area of regular octagon. That yield incorrect value of 25.5 sqm. After i am bit more conscious and thanks for Goober for providing the measurement. It's actually 32 sqm.
Thus assuming everything else still the same. The radar would have some 14192 TRM's with that amount of antenna area. The range potential is thus will be about 18% more than my previous estimate.