Indian Air Force : Updates & Discussions

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Even IAF is admitted the missing incident, blaming the small size if target.
These handlers are ba&&ards, making *censored* a horse just like they did in Feb27.
You harp so much about superiority of western missiles/weapons without researching the hit rate of western missile paragon like AIM-120 at real world targets. Hint: Go figure....you'll be surprised;)
 
You harp so much about superiority of western missiles/weapons without researching the hit rate of western missile paragon like AIM-120 at real world targets. Hint: Go figure....you'll be surprised;)
Far superior than the sh!tty counterpart in east.
 
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On this video, we see the same shooting sequence 3 times (22", 1'40" and 3'25"), but it seems to me that at 59"-1'05" we see it from further away with the target shooting.
 

Incorrect assessment. While the R-73 is insufficient against the most modern systems, there will still be a lot of drones and munitions flying around that require defenses against, and SAMAR will meet such requirements. While it won't bring down a J-20, it sure as hell can be used against the J-20's PGMs. A new fuse will solve some issues too.
 
Is that comparison supposed to be reassuring wrt. the future of Akash? Because last I heard of the INSAS, it was getting replaced by a licensed production run of Kalashnikov AK-203...

The sort of criticisms made can be quite unfair, especially with CAG.

“Out of 80 missiles received up to November 2014, 20 missiles were test fired during April-November 2014. Six of these missiles that is 30 per cent, failed the test," the CAG said in the report. The auditor said as the failure rate of the sample tested was as high as 30%, action needs to be taken to establish the reliability of factory acceptance test of the remaining missiles.

Preliminary failure analysis report, the CAG said, revealed that the missiles fell short of the target and had lower than the required velocity. There was also malfunctioning of critical units. “Two missiles had failed to take off because the booster nozzle had failed. These deficiencies posed an operational risk during hostilities," the CAG said.
“IAF replied that action for replacement of the failed missiles was being undertaken. IAF also stated that BEL had replaced the three failed missiles in January 2016 and the remaining three missiles were yet to be replaced. “Audit is of the view that it is not just a matter of replacing the missiles that failed in the test. As the failure rate of the sample tested was as high as 30%, action needs to be taken to establish the reliability of the balance ‘Z’ missiles," the CAG said.


Sometimes these reports can be exaggerated because they are created very early during a new system's introduction and overblow issues that's generally considered teething. 30% failure rate sounds big, but once you read the numbers involved in the tests, it shows it's just a quality control issue in early production models.

There are some unserviceability issues, especially on previously delivered systems. But they are not considered critical enough to hinder effective operational use, demonstrated by the size of the orders placed, including by an international customer. We are talking at least 60+ batteries and counting.

203 will be used by support units, the infantry plans to use 7.62x51mm, so SIG 716 (66k bought + 70k to be ordered) and a new tender for 300k rifles.
 

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