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Apart from their pivot to the Indo-Pacific, the Germans are using this opportunity to hard sell the EF, MRTT and A400M to the IAF.

Air chief VR Chaudhary was in Germany recently and got a ride on the EF. Looks like the Germans are taking over from the Brits in pitching for MRFA.

Imo the IAI B767 MMTT is a better bet for our IFR needs.

Not sure if the IAF is aiming to replace the IL76 with the new MTA contest. Don't see them replacing a jet with a turboprop design.
 
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#Future Projects:
• Under Procurement:
1. HAL HTT-40 = 70
2. Tejas Mk1A = 83
3. Sudarshan AA Guns = 244

•RFP:
1. Su-30MKI = 12
2. Tejas Mk-1A = 97
3. Prachand LCH = 66

•AoN:
1. Boeing 767 Mid Air-Refueller = 6
2. ISTAR = 3
3. Netra Mk-1A = 6
4. Airbus A-321 AEW&C Block 2 = 6
5. SCA Aircraft= 3

•RFI:
1. Medium Transport Aircraft= 40-80
2. HAL LUH = 61
3. MRCA 2.0 = 114
 
A good video of IAF's S/w Development Institute. It showcases Su-30MKI, LCA, MiG-29, turboprop trainer, AWACS.
AVM K N Santosh, the commander of S/w dev. institute, said that MLU is supposed to happen every 10 years. He believe in achieving 100% self-relliance.
Hats off to my fellow computer/electronics guys. I wish if i was good enough scorer to get into such priviledged place.

 
What rules does the IAF follow regarding carrying AAMs when flying sorties in intl exercises, at home and abroad?

I noticed that US aircraft almost always carry a pair of CCMs on exercises (Cope India?) Even RAF F35s flying with IAF MKIs carried wingtip Asraam in a recent exercise.

Is this left to the discretion of respective AFs or governed by a formal agreement? TIA.
 
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What rules does the IAF follow regarding carrying AAMs when flying sorties in intl exercises, at home and abroad?

I noticed that US aircraft almost always carry a pair of CCMs on exercises (Cope India?) Even RAF F35s flying with IAF MKIs carried wingtip Asraam in a recent exercise.

Is this left to the discretion of respective AFs or governed by a formal agreement? TIA.
Nearly every aircraft that goes up for air combat carries a recorder missile which is identical to the actual missile. These recorder missiles capture the launch conditions when the pilot says he has fired a simulated missile. The wingtip missiles or WVRAAMs are carried excatly for the same reason as they record the lock on by seeker head. They too are recorder missiles and not war shots.
 
You mean ACMI pods? Or training rounds that have those double stripes? Training rounds are inert, right? No warhead, no rocket motor? Sorry, too many questions. I'm quite intrigued by this.
 
What rules does the IAF follow regarding carrying AAMs when flying sorties in intl exercises, at home and abroad?

I noticed that US aircraft almost always carry a pair of CCMs on exercises (Cope India?) Even RAF F35s flying with IAF MKIs carried wingtip Asraam in a recent exercise.

Is this left to the discretion of respective AFs or governed by a formal agreement? TIA.
I think combo of 4-8 inert BVR-AAMs + CCMs are carried, for safety the propellant & explosive parts are removed with dummy weight to simulate a CAP load & avoid accidents. In case of jets like Su-30MKI, it has not been seen usually during exercises carrying inert AAMs, may be bcoz that weight can be included in 11 tons fuel capacity.
ACMI pods are attached to each jet which transmitts real-time flight data, limited radar data, HUD video, weapon lock & fire data.
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think combo of 4-8 inert BVR-AAMs + CCMs are carried, for safety the propellant & explosive parts are removed with dummy weight to simulate a CAP load & avoid accidents.

Right. The Russians have dedicated training versions of AAM's like the R-73 distinguishable by the 3 black stripes around the missile body.


The USAF calls them captive air training missile (CATM) like in the case of AMRAAM. The CATMs are identical to the combat versions though.

So it's possible the USAF flies with these and not live rounds during exercises (as that would reduce airframe life).

And because the two versions look exactly the same, you'd think they were carrying live AMRAAM/AIM-9s in exercises.

But it's not completely implausible they might use live rounds. After all, they abandoned $8 billion in weapons in the blink of an eye when they were getting out of Afghanistan!
 
Right. The Russians have dedicated training versions of AAM's like the R-73 distinguishable by the 3 black stripes around the missile body.


The USAF calls them captive air training missile (CATM) like in the case of AMRAAM. The CATMs are identical to the combat versions though.

So it's possible the USAF flies with these and not live rounds during exercises (as that would reduce airframe life).

And because the two versions look exactly the same, you'd think they were carrying live AMRAAM/AIM-9s in exercises.

But it's not completely implausible they might use live rounds. After all, they abandoned $8 billion in weapons in the blink of an eye when they were getting out of Afghanistan!
IDK if there is a hard switch or S/w feature to put live weapon into training mode & back, but it is possible.
 
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BREAKING: IAF MiG-29 fighter crashes in Barmer, Rajasthan. Pilot said to be safe. No damage on ground. Details awaited.

Crash all the fighter planes and close IAF ones for all because at this rate of new fighter induction & old ones dropping out of the sky IAF won't have any planes left in a few years.... 😂😂
We will crash all jets on Pak assets. :ROFLMAO:
 

We have lagged behind China in technology, need to catch up, says Air chief


We have lagged behind China in technology and production rates of defence equipment,” Indian Air Force (IAF) chief Air Chief Marshal (ACM) Amar Preet Singh said in an assessment vis-a-vis China, while stressing the need for ramping up domestic production of fighter jets by involving the private sector. To another question, he said Russia had promised to deliver the remaining two S-400 air defence regiments next year.

“We have done our analysis. We don’t have a design to go offensive unnecessarily. Only when we are pushed, we will do something… We have our plans in place. One place I can positively say is we are training much better than them. We have exposure much better than them. We get to know… how they train and how many different Air Forces they interact with and how many do we interact with. One people behind the machine, we are way ahead of them,” ACM Singh said addressing the annual press conference ahead of Air Force Day on October 8. “As far as technology is concerned, we may be not so good as of now, we have lagged. We were better than them in technology also sometime ago, but we have lagged in that and we need to catch up. As far as production rates are concerned, we are way behind. We need to catch up. That will happen over a period of time, it cannot happen overnight.”


To a question on the capability of India’s air defence network in the backdrop of the developments between Israel and Iran, the Air Chief said the systems being procured could do similar functions as Israel’s Iron Dome and other systems. “We have a combination of air defence systems which are fairly competent,” he said, noting that India being a very large country needed large numbers of systems and there was need to prioritise vital and priority areas that need to be protected. “Regarding technology, the systems that we have and the systems that we have contracted we have the technology to intercept these missiles,” he added.

The Air Chief said that by 2047 they aimed to have an entire inventory by that time, either produced in India or developed and produced in India. Acknowledging the delay in the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas programme with the MK-1A deliveries yet to begin, ACM Singh said their first aim was not to let the fighter aircraft strength go down below 30 squadrons. In this regard, he said Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) must now stick to its promise of producing 24 aircraft every year to offset the delay. They had set up a third aircraft line in Nashik, it was yet to churn out an aircraft, he noted.

He stressed that private players had to come in to ensure the numbers. “We can’t keep relying on one agency. Even HAL will have limitations,” he stated, given the numbers involved.

The IAF had a tender for 114 fighters jets to be procured under the Multi-Role Fighter Aircraft (MRFA) which had been hugely delayed. “The MRFA is needed as on yesterday”, the Air Chief quipped, underscoring the urgency.

On the indigenous programme lines up, ACM Singh said the LCA-Mk2 was supposed to do its first flight next year October and December 2027 was supposed to be end of research and development for LCA-Mk2. “If these timelines are met and MRFA is signed parallelly we are OK. We are not badly off. But if these timelines are pushed, then we need to look at alternatives.”

Talking of the ground situation in eastern Ladakh, the Air Chief said the situation remained practically the same. Development of infrastructure by China had been “fairly rapid”. “We are also trying to catch up”, he said, adding new airfields at Nyoma and others were coming up and there were plans to utilise the civil infrastructure.

On the Agnipath scheme of recruitment into the armed forces, ACM Singh said the feedback from the ground was very positive. “If we have to absorb more than 25% Agniveers into the force after four years, yes that can be done,” he said, adding a decision on that was for the government to take.

Talking of the impact of ongoing global conflicts on supply chains and maintenance, the Air Chief said in terms of maintaining our aircraft there were issues of supply chains “breaking down” because of these wars. “We have components which come from these regions. So, maintaining those equipment is a challenge, which we have handled very well…,” he stated.
 
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