Deficiency is being created to press govt later for expensive toys and earn commission.
I won't comment on the commission part but yes about the artificial deficiency part. While MoD shares most of the blame, how is it that IAF is unable to come up with a strategy to plan events ahead and reduce the effects of delayed procurements? It's simple, If my procurements department at work takes 1-3 months to clear a purchase, I will start sending my purchase requests earlier to accommodate the expected delay and thus reduce the impact it will have on operational performance.
While MK1 might not be the dream fighter you'd like to have, it is easier to order them and in SPORT versions they could make up for the delay in follow-on Hawks. It will also reduce the number of training sorties on frontline aircraft, reducing its utilisation and improving operational costs. They can quickly convert to point defense roles and continue being the excellent bomb trucks they are. The MK1s can be converted to Mk1A standard during MLU as per HAL offiicials anyway, so whats stopping IAF from enhancing the numbers? The fear that our inefficienty MoD might not be convinced to allow procurement of high performance aircraft from abroad if the shortage is not too evident.
Good Day!
Let us wait for a few months
What if Su 57 E is really good
And Russians throw in Kalibr and Kinzhal and Brahmos 2 and Tu 22
@randomradio
Earlier Russians were telling us
First buy Su 57 , then we will get S 400 and Nuclear Submarine
Then they agreed for both
I think both S 400 and Nuke Sub were
Given on the promise of ordering Su 57
In future
Earlier Russians were telling us
First buy Su 57 , then we will get S 400 and Nuclear Submarine
Then they agreed for both
I think both S 400 and Nuke Sub were
Given on the promise of ordering Su 57
In future
It looks unlikely for the IAF to place an order for an extra squadron of Mk1 though. And SPORT doesn't seem to be something that will be ready before Mk1A.
PAK FA will be an entirely separate requirement, and we have to wait until after 2025 for the definitive engine to be ready.
There was no such silly blackmail. It was made up by Indian media.
so we will have 12-14 squadrons of su, 10 squadrons of rafale, 18 squad of mk1,mk1a,mwf and then we will have some 8 squadrons for Navy too. please dont mistake me but does MoD knows u r planning a 50 squadron for our country?....... I am not at all counting AMCA. this count is till 2035.
Randomradio has planned a 60 squadron fleet only for the IAF by 2050 down to the last detail.
they dont have much high value trade partner left, just be selling us know how and bit of tech they can earn a lot.
That's about right.
With 14 MKI, 10 Rafale and 18 LCA/MWF, we will have the required 42 squadrons for the IAF. But over that many years, we will have lost many squadrons worth to attrition. So this this where we will also need a few squadrons of FGFA. Also, IAF wants to boost total squadron strength to 45 after the 2027-32 period.
Naturally, you cannot dismiss delays in all the programs.
And this is not my plan, this is the IAF's plan.
IN's requirements are entirely independent. They are only looking at 3 new squadrons for now. They have an MII plan for the future.
Chandigarh Air Force Station: Always first to get new type of aircraft for IAF
A major logistical air base for supplying forward areas in Ladakh, Air Force Station Chandigarh, which inducted the CH-47F (I) Chinook helicopters on Monday, has a history of being the first station to receive a new type of aircraft for the Indian Air Force (IAF).
While fighter aircraft are no longer stationed in the city’s air base yet, the first squadron to induct MiG-21 (Type 77) aircraft, No. 28 Squadron, was based in Chandigarh in 1963. The squadron calls itself “First Supersonics” precisely because it was the first squadron to be equipped with the supersonic MiG-21.
The unit was commanded by Wing Commander Dilbagh Singh who later went on to become the Chief of Air Staff in the rank of of Chief Marshal.
The first squadron to induct AN-12 heavy lift aircraft was also stationed in Chandigarh. No. 44 Squadron was then commanded by Wing Commander (Later Group Captain) Tom Lionel Anderson who was the first Commanding Officer. The squadron was formed at Chandigarh in April 1961, the year Chandigarh airbase itself was established.
The IAF had signed a contract with Boeing in September 2015 for 15 Chinook helicopters. (Express Photo: Jaipal Singh)
The squadron was later equipped with the heavy transport aircraft, IL-76, in March 1985. The squadron moved on to Agra under the command of Group Capt (Later Air Marshal) A K Goyal.
Another transport squadron, No. 25, was also raised in the city and equipped with AN-12 aircraft. Squadron Leader George Jagdish Shaw was CO when the squadron was raised in March 1963 with four AN 12 aircraft. It converted to IL-76 aircraft in 1989.
The AN-32 aircraft, whose steady drone early in the morning for the first sortie to Leh was an early morning alarm for many residents of the city, was also based in the initial years of its acquisition in the city. No. 48 Squadron converted from Packetts aircraft to AN 32 and moved to Chandigarh in May 1986.
And finally, the 126 Helicopter Flight which has received the Chinook helicopter on Monday and is now a full-fledged helicopter unit, was also raised in Chandigarh in 1986 and equipped with the MI-26 heavy lift helicopters. These Russian helicopters are bigger and have more load carrying capacity than the Chinooks.
The Air Officer Commanding, Air Force Station, Chandigarh, Air Commodore S Srinivasan, was mindful of these facts when he spoke at the Chinook induction ceremony. “Chandigarh was a city conceived by our founding fathers to be a model city symbolising a young and vibrant India. As a planned city, it ushered in contemporary concepts and functionalities. The city and its air force station took birth together in 1961 and the air force station was selected by the IAF to usher in new capabilities,” he said.
The first batch of four helicopters has been delivered on schedule and the last batch is to be delivered by March next year. (Express Photo: Jaipal Singh)
Wing Commander Anupam Yadav and Squadron Leader Sidharth Swain, pilot and flight engineer respectively of the Chinook, were looking forward to operationalising the aircraft. “This is the first tandem rotor helicopter inducted into the Air Force, its flying characteristics were new for us. For this, experienced pilots of Boeing helped us, they had operational exposure as they had been deployed in Afghanistan and Iraq,” they said.
IAF officials said that a special mention must be made of the staff of Commander Works Engineer (Air Force) and Garrison Engineer (Air Force) of the Military Engineer Services (MES) which created facilities for the Chinooks in a very short span of time. The hangars for the helicopters were set up with PVC flooring with anti-static properties and electrical fitments were provided as per American standards by a city-based firm.
While the city no longer hears the roar of the fighter jet engines of the MiG-21 and the steady drone of the AN-32 is also few and far between but new flying machines like the C-17 heavy aircraft have now appeared on the scene and fly supply sorties to Ladakh along with the good old workhorse, IL-76.
Chandigarh Air Force Station: Always first to get new type of aircraft for IAF
A major logistical air base for supplying forward areas in Ladakh, Air Force Station Chandigarh, which inducted the CH-47F (I) Chinook helicopters on Monday, has a history of being the first station to receive a new type of aircraft for the Indian Air Force (IAF).
While fighter aircraft are no longer stationed in the city’s air base yet, the first squadron to induct MiG-21 (Type 77) aircraft, No. 28 Squadron, was based in Chandigarh in 1963. The squadron calls itself “First Supersonics” precisely because it was the first squadron to be equipped with the supersonic MiG-21.
The unit was commanded by Wing Commander Dilbagh Singh who later went on to become the Chief of Air Staff in the rank of of Chief Marshal.
The first squadron to induct AN-12 heavy lift aircraft was also stationed in Chandigarh. No. 44 Squadron was then commanded by Wing Commander (Later Group Captain) Tom Lionel Anderson who was the first Commanding Officer. The squadron was formed at Chandigarh in April 1961, the year Chandigarh airbase itself was established.
The squadron was later equipped with the heavy transport aircraft, IL-76, in March 1985. The squadron moved on to Agra under the command of Group Capt (Later Air Marshal) A K Goyal.
Another transport squadron, No. 25, was also raised in the city and equipped with AN-12 aircraft. Squadron Leader George Jagdish Shaw was CO when the squadron was raised in March 1963 with four AN 12 aircraft. It converted to IL-76 aircraft in 1989.
The AN-32 aircraft, whose steady drone early in the morning for the first sortie to Leh was an early morning alarm for many residents of the city, was also based in the initial years of its acquisition in the city. No. 48 Squadron converted from Packetts aircraft to AN 32 and moved to Chandigarh in May 1986.
And finally, the 126 Helicopter Flight which has received the Chinook helicopter on Monday and is now a full-fledged helicopter unit, was also raised in Chandigarh in 1986 and equipped with the MI-26 heavy lift helicopters. These Russian helicopters are bigger and have more load carrying capacity than the Chinooks.
The Air Officer Commanding, Air Force Station, Chandigarh, Air Commodore S Srinivasan, was mindful of these facts when he spoke at the Chinook induction ceremony. “Chandigarh was a city conceived by our founding fathers to be a model city symbolising a young and vibrant India. As a planned city, it ushered in contemporary concepts and functionalities. The city and its air force station took birth together in 1961 and the air force station was selected by the IAF to usher in new capabilities,” he said.
The first batch of four helicopters has been delivered on schedule and the last batch is to be delivered by March next year. (Express Photo: Jaipal Singh)
Wing Commander Anupam Yadav and Squadron Leader Sidharth Swain, pilot and flight engineer respectively of the Chinook, were looking forward to operationalising the aircraft. “This is the first tandem rotor helicopter inducted into the Air Force, its flying characteristics were new for us. For this, experienced pilots of Boeing helped us, they had operational exposure as they had been deployed in Afghanistan and Iraq,” they said.
IAF officials said that a special mention must be made of the staff of Commander Works Engineer (Air Force) and Garrison Engineer (Air Force) of the Military Engineer Services (MES) which created facilities for the Chinooks in a very short span of time. The hangars for the helicopters were set up with PVC flooring with anti-static properties and electrical fitments were provided as per American standards by a city-based firm.
While the city no longer hears the roar of the fighter jet engines of the MiG-21 and the steady drone of the AN-32 is also few and far between but new flying machines like the C-17 heavy aircraft have now appeared on the scene and fly supply sorties to Ladakh along with the good old workhorse, IL-76.
Chandigarh Air Force Station: Always first to get new type of aircraft for IAF
Used in Balakot airstrike Spice Bombs & Litening pods being made in India - SP's Land Forces
Used in Balakot airstrike, Spice Bombs & Litening pods being made in India
March 7, 2019By Vishal ThaparVideo(s): By SP Guide Pubns
Yuval Miller, Executive Vice-President of Rafael in conversation with Vishal Thapar, Group Associate Editor, SP Guide Publications
In the spotlight after the path breaking Indian airstrike on the Jaish-e-Mohammad terror camp at Balakot in Pakistan on February 26, the Spice smart bomb fired with telling effect from Mirage-2000 fighters, and the Litening precision targeting pods which enabled the hits are being made in India.
Yuval Miller, Executive Vice-President of Rafael, the Israeli Original Equipment Manufacturer of these munitions and targeting systems, told SP Guide in an exclusive interview, at the recently concluded Aero India 2019, that the second lot of Spice bombs recently supplied to the Indian Air Force were produced by the Kalyani Rafael Advanced Systems (KRAS) joint venture at Hyderabad.
Getting in line with the Make in India policy, Rafael is considering producing its entire range of weaponry in India at this JV. It is offering in response to an Indian RFI, the long-range glide bomb "with almost 100 per cent Indian content", and Rocks, the extended range version of Spice, capable of being fired at moving or fixed, highly fortified targets "hundreds of kilometres" away, Miller disclosed. "There are strong requirements in the arena that is evolving here," Miller said prophetically, a few days before India launched the Balakot airstrike. "There's always better (enemy) air defence. IAF is trying to find the right solutions for those challenges," he added.
The Litening pod is also being made substantially in India with another Rafael partner, Defsys. Almost the entire IAF fighter fleet is expected to be fitted with Litening pods.
Rafael is also supplying software designed radios for the "entire airborne network" of the IAF. "The state-of-the-art radio systems are being produced in India." Miller said, referring to the Astra Rafael Comsys (ARC) joint venture, which was given a cheque of $30 million at Aero India in fulfillment of offsets obligations for the radio contract. This JV will also bid for further orders by the IAF, and a separate procurement for the Indian Army.
The Israeli company has still not given up hope on selling the Spike anti-tank guided missile to the Army, Miller said.
Used in Balakot airstrike, Spice Bombs & Litening pods being made in India
March 7, 2019By Vishal ThaparVideo(s): By SP Guide Pubns
Yuval Miller, Executive Vice-President of Rafael in conversation with Vishal Thapar, Group Associate Editor, SP Guide Publications
In the spotlight after the path breaking Indian airstrike on the Jaish-e-Mohammad terror camp at Balakot in Pakistan on February 26, the Spice smart bomb fired with telling effect from Mirage-2000 fighters, and the Litening precision targeting pods which enabled the hits are being made in India.
Yuval Miller, Executive Vice-President of Rafael, the Israeli Original Equipment Manufacturer of these munitions and targeting systems, told SP Guide in an exclusive interview, at the recently concluded Aero India 2019, that the second lot of Spice bombs recently supplied to the Indian Air Force were produced by the Kalyani Rafael Advanced Systems (KRAS) joint venture at Hyderabad.
Getting in line with the Make in India policy, Rafael is considering producing its entire range of weaponry in India at this JV. It is offering in response to an Indian RFI, the long-range glide bomb "with almost 100 per cent Indian content", and Rocks, the extended range version of Spice, capable of being fired at moving or fixed, highly fortified targets "hundreds of kilometres" away, Miller disclosed. "There are strong requirements in the arena that is evolving here," Miller said prophetically, a few days before India launched the Balakot airstrike. "There's always better (enemy) air defence. IAF is trying to find the right solutions for those challenges," he added.
The Litening pod is also being made substantially in India with another Rafael partner, Defsys. Almost the entire IAF fighter fleet is expected to be fitted with Litening pods.
Rafael is also supplying software designed radios for the "entire airborne network" of the IAF. "The state-of-the-art radio systems are being produced in India." Miller said, referring to the Astra Rafael Comsys (ARC) joint venture, which was given a cheque of $30 million at Aero India in fulfillment of offsets obligations for the radio contract. This JV will also bid for further orders by the IAF, and a separate procurement for the Indian Army.
The Israeli company has still not given up hope on selling the Spike anti-tank guided missile to the Army, Miller said.
But it will be better if we use Israeli made ones for extra impact, let their biggest weapon 'religion' feel jittery of death by kuffar.