Indian Army Artillery Systems : News and Updates

A Hanwha spokesperson told Janes that the company has received an additional order of 100 K9s from India, which is in process now.

“[An order of] another 100 numbers [of K9s] is being discussed and can be closed within 2023. We [Hanwha] are already in touch with our partner Larsen & Toubro (L&T) [regarding the order],” he said.
 
To be built by both companies or only baba kalyani?
Only moved from army HQ to MoD, actual RFI/RFP stage not out yet, i think it will probably be L1-L2 divided?
New Delhi [India], March 1 (ANI): In a major stride towards the 'Make-in-India' in the defence sector, the Ministry of Defence has received a proposal from Indian Army to buy 307 Advanced Towed Artillery Gun Systems (ATAGS) for deployment along the borders with China and Pakistan.
The proposal worth over USD 1 billion has been received from the Indian Army and is under discussion. It is expected to be cleared soon and sent for clearance by the Cabinet Committee on Security, defence officials told ANI.
This would be the first order for the indigenous howitzer which can strike targets at around 50 kms and is believed to be the best gun in its class, they said.
The forces have been conducting trials of the gun in different altitudes and terrain. They have been upgraded as per the suggestions made by the users, the officials said.
The technology and know-how of raw howitzer have been shared with two private firms Tata Advanced Systems and Bharat Forge group by Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and they would be supplying the system to the forces including over 320 high mobility vehicles.
The trials of the 155mm/52 calibre Advanced Towed Artillery Gun System (ATAGS) were completed at the Pokhran Field Firing Range (PFFR) between April 26 and May 2.
The ATAGS is an indigenous towed artillery gun system project undertaken in mission mode by the DRDO as a part of the artillery modernisation programme of the Indian Army, the statement added.
Armament Research and Development Establishment (ARDE) Pune is the nodal laboratory of the DRDO for the design & development of ATAGS, along with other DRDO laboratories.
The development has been done with two industry partners, Tata Advanced Systems Ltd and Bharat Forge Ltd, along with the active participation of other industries.
The reliability of both guns has been proven by firing multiple rounds in various zones, including burst, intense & sustained modes. High accuracy and consistency in range and line with maximum range have been established, the DRDO had said recently. (ANI)

Link: Indian Army to buy 307 ATAGS howitzers for deployment along China, Pak border
 
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We must not do any business with our enemies(yes, Turkey!) and ATAGS induction will go through. This year's Independence Day was just the beginning. Wait and watch. Trust Modi ji.
When everyone was so gloom and doom about induction of ATAGS, I wrote the above in post number 1256.

With the news of IA now about to procure 307 ATAGS, guess another post of mind becomes true :)
 
When everyone was so gloom and doom about induction of ATAGS, I wrote the above in post number 1256.

With the news of IA now about to procure 307 ATAGS, guess another post of mind becomes true :)
Congratulations . You've a better strike record than the person you're a fan of. In such a short period of time too . That calls for twice the number of compliments. Congratulations once again .
 
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another money pit, we dont need these towed ones however light they are and our pvt companies are the one who should be taking the lead on it not govt.
These light guns have utilities in the mountains. However, I agree that indigenous solutions must be given preference.
 
A small number initially was always expected. These 307 guns will form the template for the main serial production. This order is like the order for the first 40 LCAs, effectively 25-30% of the full requirement.

If the LSP deal goes ahead next year, or even the year after, it will take until 2026 to have them all. During this time they should receive a GSQR, followed by new prototypes and a new round of testing, which could take us to 2027 or 2028 or even 2029 before an order can be placed, followed by another year or two before serial deliveries begin. So that's 2030+.

So these small numbers will help the army create a GSQR, followed by full series production.

As mentioned in the quote, if the deal goes through this year, then the IA will receive the guns between 2026 and 2028. By 2028, we could see a GSQR, testing and a new indent for a larger number of guns for serial production, which could be 500-600 each in 2 batches.

In the meantime, the IA may buy 400 ATHOS-class guns that are lighter, alongside more Dhanush and M777s.
 
These light guns have utilities in the mountains. However, I agree that indigenous solutions must be given preference.

More imports are necessary in this segment, it will allow the setting up of a production line.

It also has a lot of export potential in its new 55cal avatar, it significantly outranges ATAGS. 300 guns for the IA and some 500-1000 guns exported is a very good deal.

Access to this gun can also enable access to more mature rail gun designs.
 
These light guns have utilities in the mountains. However, I agree that indigenous solutions must be given preference.
Most curious part is the US offering us a JV when Kalyani has already developed the equivalent of the M-777 in standard format with an ULH in 2 versions - titanium & steel. How long does one think the ER version would take? Further the US has also offered production of the Excalibur shells when we have just developed an identical system.

Then of course you have the Athos which'd be offered to us at half the estimated cost of the ATAGS , probably even less only to make up for all the losses & more in the selling price thru wildly enhanced prices of spares. Old trick, but people still do fall for it especially out here.
 
Most curious part is the US offering us a JV when Kalyani has already developed the equivalent of the M-777 in standard format with an ULH in 2 versions - titanium & steel. How long does one think the ER version would take? Further the US has also offered production of the Excalibur shells when we have just developed an identical system.

Then of course you have the Athos which'd be offered to us at half the estimated cost of the ATAGS , probably even less only to make up for all the losses & more in the selling price thru wildly enhanced prices of spares. Old trick, but people still do fall for it especially out here.
We have so many indigenous options available , imports should not be even considered.
 
Army seeks to buy 310 indigenous Advanced Towed Artillery Gun System - The Economic Times


Designed by DRDO to replace the Bofors towed guns that are the current mainstay 155 mm artillery system in service, ATAGS has been extensively tested by the army in different terrain, from desert areas to high altitude ranges in Sikkim, and have been declared fit for induction.


If the normal course of procurement is followed, the two companies - which are developmental partners of DRDO - will be invited to submit commercial bids. The lowest bidder would likely get 60% of the order and the other company would get the balance, provided it agrees to match the lowest price bid.


NATO standard guns have a chamber size of 23 litres, while the ATAGS is designed for 25 litres, giving it a slightly extended range of 48 km. Given its non-standard chamber, these guns may require bespoke ammunition as the extended size exerts extra strain on current ammunition.


While commercial offers are yet to come in, it is estimated that the guns would cost at least Rs 18 crore per piece.
 
Some people have become so accustomed to living in their own bubble that they have forgotten the Indian MoD considers LCC for L1, not unit price. LCC includes spares for a lifetime. :rolleyes:
 
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