Indian Military UAV Procurement Programs : General Discussions

I am not comparing by spec, just their fate. If tapas program had got 50% funding of the predator program and maybe a more dedicated result oriented team who knows we might have made it here.
It would be better to burn that money. ADE is the worst performing lab of DRDO.
Finally. Any idea on Indian weapons integration?
Why though. It would be primarily surveillance platform. Hellfire is cheap enough for secondary use cases.
 
Finally. Any idea on Indian weapons integration?
what drone delivered weapons we got? those 1 km thin missile by BDL? Not useful for HALE drone. I guess we will mainly keep it as ISR platform, maybe some hellfires will be added given we might make those locally.
 
what drone delivered weapons we got? those 1 km thin missile by BDL? Not useful for HALE drone. I guess we will mainly keep it as ISR platform, maybe some hellfires will be added given we might make those locally.

Helina/Amogha variant
NASM-SR (An even shortened version)

If they are talking about setting up assembly here ,rest assured,, weaponisation is coming.

Indian firms to weaponise Israeli drones under IAF Project Cheetah

IAF's 'Project Cheetah' for weaponising Israeli drones to be awarded to Indian firms under Make in India route

By Ajit K Dubey

New Delhi [India], September 18 (ANI): With all major import deals being either put on hold or scrapped by the Narendra Modi government, the Indian Air Force is now planning to go ahead with its Project Cheetah under the Make in India route where Indian defence manufacturers would arm the Israeli Heron drones with strike capabilities.
Under the ambitious Project Cheetah, the Indian Air Force wants to upgrade its existing fleet of Israeli-origin Heron unmanned aerial vehicles with better communication facilities and missiles which can target enemy positions from long range.
As per plans, the project was to be completed with Israeli weapon manufacturers.
“Now, the IAF is planning to go ahead with the upgrade of its drones by involving Indian defence firms under Make in India in defence,” government sources told ANI.
The IAF is the main lead in the project under which the Israeli drones in the Navy and the Army are also planned to be upgraded with strike capabilities and better surveillance and reconnaissance pods.
The three services for a long time have depended upon IAF Israeli-made Searcher II and Heron UAVs for reconnaissance and snooping purposes.
With the upgrade in snooping capabilities, the forces on the ground would also be able to get pinpoint intelligence about hideouts in areas where men have to be involved in operations.
The upgrades would also enable the ground stations to operate these aircraft from far-off distances and control them through a satellite communication system.
The surveillance capabilities of the UAVs planned to be upgraded would be similar to the ones that have been acquired by the Indian Army and IAF under the emergency acquisition powers granted to the forces by the government in wake of the ongoing military stand-off. (ANI)
 
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This TOT is a farce.
It's fine. We do not have an program comparable to this. Assembly is a decent start for something which gives us this capability. Also, means, we can learn few things, if we are smart enough to learn. Look at the change in tactics. This itself will take couple of years. Testing our weapons by bringing it into the decision loop. Lots of things to learn.

There is nothing wrong in assembly. Concentrate on what we already have on the plate first.
 
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It's fine. We do not have an program comparable to this. Assembly is a decent start for something which gives us this capability. Also, means, we can learn few things, if we are smart enough to learn. Look at the change in tactics. This itself will take couple of years. Testing our weapons by bringing it into the decision loop. Lots of things to learn.

There is nothing wrong in assembly. Concentrate on what we already have on the plate first.
Whatever TOT they will offer will be outdated even by our standards neither we will get any thing by CKD, these things are unnecessary increasing the cost of deal.
 

Bharat Forge, General Atomics Partner To Manufacture Key Components For Advanced UAVs In India​

In a major move to boost manufacturing in India, US-based General Atomics Aeronautical Systems and Bharat Forge have announced a partnership to manufacture main landing gear components, subassemblies, and assemblies of remotely piloted aircraft.

The move is expected to result in significant capability-building for both companies and provide an impetus to the Indian large, unmanned aircraft industry.

Further, the partnership will also help India to develop a manufacturing ecosystem for high-end drones.

“GA-ASI is eagerly looking forward to working with Bharat Forge in the critical field of aerostructure manufacturing,” Vivek Lall, Chief Executive, General Atomics Global Corporation said in a statement on Tuesday (3 January).

“Bharat Forge’s expertise in the field of forging is known globally, and their outstanding contributions in the aerospace sector has inspired us to work together for building the next generation of the world’s most advanced unmanned aerial vehicles," Lall added.

Baba Kalyani, Chairman and Managing Director, Bharat Forge Limited, said, “Aerospace is a high ‘Technology Intensive’ domain, which relies on Product Integrity, Reliability, and Zero Defect.’ This is a culture by itself and demands a strong focus on people and processes. As part of our Aerospace Growth Strategy, our collaboration with GA-ASI is a strong testimony of our culture in Bharat Forge Aerospace to assimilate and demonstrate the same, as partners to General Atomics, in making India Atmanirbhar.”

Bharat Forge Limited, which is part of the Kalyani Group, has a state-of-the-art, digitally integrated manufacturing, assembly, and testing facility for aerospace components and systems.

It manufactures structural and engine parts and subsystems for aircraft and engines for both civil and military applications.

The company's portfolio includes aircraft turbine and compressor manufacturing; high-end aero engine components like blades, discs, and shafts; and airframe components, including aircraft landing gear, in keeping with the latest technology and design trends, while maintaining high quality standards.


 
If it's ADE , we'd be lucky to get it in 2028 . If the gentle Dr Kota felt the urge to exhort ADE to "promise" to deliver 3 systems of which 2 have been in the making since long you can imagine the confidence ADE enjoys among both serving & retired scientists leave aside the bureaucracy or the services.
 
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I think they have a bit better reputation than GTRE which is not saying much. Hasn't improved a lot even after the new director joined.
 
This 18 number has been doing round for quite some time. So its 10 Navy who need it the most, 6 IAF & 2 army; or really 6-6-6 split which would indicate joint command sort of thing given Navy recently flew those in LAC on request from IAF? Given army's small capex I find it hard they want to spend that much on such a very limited number asset when they can buy the approved rest of apaches for the money?

 
This deal is unique in the sense that there will be no transfer of technology or defence offsets. The drones will be delivered within five years. Also with this deal India will become the first non–NATO state to receive armed UAVs from the US for deployment along its borders and also the Indian Ocean region.

$3 billion and not even offset?
 
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