Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Why so jumpy? Why are you getting defensive?

I did not say that. I mentioned propulsion because of your comment on LRSAM/MRSAM. You were talking with a @Gautam .

I didn't present you any new logic. I never said its so easy to build a long range BVR. All I said was that we already have all the building pieces to make it a reality.

The real reason for Astra mk-II delay could be related to project priorities, not technological challenges.

They are yet to wrap up Astra Mk-I development.

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NGARM comes under 12th FYP and it has been given two more year extension. The project is in the testing phase.

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NGARM, QRSAM, SAAW, MPATGM all comes under 12th FYP

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Astra Mk-II is listed under new projects being formulated for DRDO 13th FYP. (Basically, the project is barely 2 years old). It might take a few more years to see start testing.

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Thank you for pushing me to look into it.

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And you made fun of me when I told you that Astra seeker is Russian in origin and that initial batch has Russian seeker. Do you know, even Chinese PL-15 has same seeker.
 
And you made fun of me when I told you that Astra seeker is Russian in origin and that initial batch has Russian seeker. Do you know, even Chinese PL-15 has same seeker.
I stand corrected, Astra, QRSAM seekers are fully Indian. I didn't make fun of you but asked for a source for the statement. Which you couldn't produce. And how does what I posted proved that it is of russian origin?
 
Just read what you posted carefully. It is all there.
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We started using Indian seeker for later part of the tests (after 2014-15). We were using agat seeker. I presumed you were talking about current one.

The very heart of their ability to hunt down aircraft in the air, their seeker, had been replaced. The existing Russian Agat 9B1103M active radar seeker used on the Astra had been replaced with an Indian Ku-band seeker developed by the DRDO’s Research Center Imarat (RCI) in Hyderabad

https://www.livefistdefence.com/201...air-to-air-missile-is-quietly-killing-it.html

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Well this happened :


Then this was reported :

Nag ATGM test fired successfully in Pokhran, production likely to begin by year-end
By Vikas Sv | Updated: Monday, July 8, 2019, 11:04 [IST]
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New Delhi, July 08: The indigenously built third generation Anti Tank Guided Missile (ATGM) Nag was successfully test-fired at Pokharan test firing range on Sunday, said reports.

The missiles were test-fired during both day and night during the trials. Reports have said that the production of Nag missiles army begin by the end of 2019. Given this, these final rounds of testing could be to make sure that there are absolutely no design flaws. Winter user trials of the Nag ATGM were successfully completed in December 2018. DRDO has been working on the Nag ATGM for over a decade, said reports.

Nag is a third-generation, fire-and-forget, anti-tank guided missile developed by India's state-owned Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) to support both mechanised infantry and airborne forces of the Indian Army.

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The NAMICAs are the launch vehicles of the Nag missiles and can carry six missiles at a time, which can destroy enemy tanks and infantry combat vehicles from a distance of 7 to 8 kilometers.

The third-generation anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) Nag is slated to enter production by the end of 2019, reported The Diplomat in February 2019 quoting a senior Indian defense industry official.

The report further says that the Indian Army is expected to purchase 8,000 Nags with an initial order of 500 NAGs. The ATGM system will be manufactured by India's sole missile producer, state-owned Bharat Dynamics Limited.

The missile incorporates an advanced passive homing guidance system and possesses high single-shot kill probability. It is designed to destroy modern main battle tanks and other heavily armoured targets.

Nag missile has a land variant and an air launched variant. The land version has a range of upto 4 kms while the air launched version has a range of around 7-10 kms.

Nag ATGM test fired successfully in Pokhran, production likely to begin by year-end

Did I get that right ? 8000 fooking missiles ? If that is so then the long wait has been worth it.
 
So, the curtains on the IGDMP finally comes down after 36 years and 4/5 successful developments viz Prithvi, Agni, Akash & Nag. Only the development of Trishul - MRSAM / LRSAM had to be abandoned. I'm sure we'd master that too very shortly.
Well this happened :


Then this was reported :

Nag ATGM test fired successfully in Pokhran, production likely to begin by year-end
By Vikas Sv | Updated: Monday, July 8, 2019, 11:04 [IST]
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New Delhi, July 08: The indigenously built third generation Anti Tank Guided Missile (ATGM) Nag was successfully test-fired at Pokharan test firing range on Sunday, said reports.

The missiles were test-fired during both day and night during the trials. Reports have said that the production of Nag missiles army begin by the end of 2019. Given this, these final rounds of testing could be to make sure that there are absolutely no design flaws. Winter user trials of the Nag ATGM were successfully completed in December 2018. DRDO has been working on the Nag ATGM for over a decade, said reports.

Nag is a third-generation, fire-and-forget, anti-tank guided missile developed by India's state-owned Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) to support both mechanised infantry and airborne forces of the Indian Army.

View attachment 7956

The NAMICAs are the launch vehicles of the Nag missiles and can carry six missiles at a time, which can destroy enemy tanks and infantry combat vehicles from a distance of 7 to 8 kilometers.

The third-generation anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) Nag is slated to enter production by the end of 2019, reported The Diplomat in February 2019 quoting a senior Indian defense industry official.

The report further says that the Indian Army is expected to purchase 8,000 Nags with an initial order of 500 NAGs. The ATGM system will be manufactured by India's sole missile producer, state-owned Bharat Dynamics Limited.

The missile incorporates an advanced passive homing guidance system and possesses high single-shot kill probability. It is designed to destroy modern main battle tanks and other heavily armoured targets.

Nag missile has a land variant and an air launched variant. The land version has a range of upto 4 kms while the air launched version has a range of around 7-10 kms.

Nag ATGM test fired successfully in Pokhran, production likely to begin by year-end

Did I get that right ? 8000 fooking missiles ? If that is so then the long wait has been worth it.
 
Stealing a post that @hellbent made in Other Forum.

A wind tunnel model :
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What is that ? Nirbhay ?

What is that green pipe behind the wind tunnel model ? To me it seems like a pipe channeling in air taken in by the intake, sort of like a validation of intake design. You can see the intake on top, as a DRDO official once said about the Nirbhay, its a submerged intake.

@vstol Jockey @Falcon @Ashwin @_Anonymous_ @Parthu @Sathya @randomradio et al.
Your thoughts ?

If it is a Nirbhay, where are those 4 small tail fins ?
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@hellbent in his original post alluded to the nose of the model being almost flat, flat like the nose of a torpedo.

Interesting thing is, didn't we have a Supersonic Missile Assisted Release of Torpedo(SMART) under development ? Stated time for project completion is 2021.
 
Of all the missiles that we've developed so far, this one here is probably the most low profile one. Hardly any media houses report on it, hardly any high quality pictures available and yet its in service. Hardly any tests happen, even if they do they are never publicly acknowledged. Which is why I find it so intriguing.:D
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Pic : Shourya missile

The secrecy is understandable given its links to the SSBN/SLBM project. But given the number to test fires/validation trials that all other missiles under go, how come we never test these things ? They don't need validations yet ?
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Pic : K15 missile(basically naval Shourya)

Also, since every missile that we make basically leads to another missile and then another one, thus creating a family(Agni family, K family, Akash 1 & 2, Brahmos 1, 2, NG, AL, mini and what not) what do these things evolve into ? Pralay/Prahaar missile ?
 
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Some RBU 6000 ASW rocket pics. for no reason.:)

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INS Tabar fires a RBU 6000 during Exercise Paschim Leher on 11 November 2016

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INS Satpura fires a RBU.

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INS Tarkash during Indo-UK naval exercise Konkan2017.

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Navy's old girls are having some fun. INS Delhi(D 61) at fore and INS Mysore(D 60) at the back.
 
What is it "Tejas India's MRCA". Is it really painted on D61 or is it photoshopped.
Photoshopped, its the name of a Facebook page posting defence news/pics etc. The photo was originally published by the Navy, the facebook page owner photoshopped it on the pic before posting it on their page.

Think of it as a sort of marketing, except it wasn't an exclusive picture.
 
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