Indian Railways Junction

Just another query. The technical aspects ( wheels & track life) would apply to a bullet train running on rails not to MagLev trains, if I'm not mistaken. Secondly, AI ( driverless technologies) and enclosing the entire length of such a MagLev train to account for the safety factor can be possibilities which can be considered in the future as such technologies develop leaving only the commercial viability vis a vis energy consumption to be vaildated. Your views @Ashutosh ; @Bali78

Magnetic levitation trains : Only one version for public use has been built that is the Shanghai airport Express. It is supported by the Chinese government to foot the bills. The ridership is substantial but costs can't be recovered via ticket sales alone.

MagLev Costs are due to technical complexity. Maglevs are basically like two same polarity magnets floating on top of one another due to magnetic repulsion, continiously balancing out one another. But here is where the Similarity ends.

One needs electromagnets for lifting a train which itlsef is another electromagnet, and it is heavy because of passenger, batteries (to keep the train powered and the magnets), magnetic shielding and heat dissipation (heating happens due to eddy induced current). These magnetic rails are made up of superconductors which have to be maintained at very low temperatures, (an even though they are switched on and off very fast, the cooling is mantained at atleast a 100 Degrees Centigrade below Zero, this costs money). And you have to have computers to keep every thing balanced.

This is how it moves.

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Sit back and admire the effort taken to remove the wheels & rails, technically this is an engineers space age dream project. I'd love to do this, provided if anyone is ready to fund me. :p . Now fathom the energy costs, electrical and control & instrumentation system, networking required to keep all that going...

At 600kmph the train still has to remove that volume of air out of its way and keep moving forwards, the propulsion system must deliver the energy required to overcome drag forces. This will be more or less a constant till 2000m form MSL. So those wont change.

Hence we find ourselves here.
 
Magnetic levitation trains : Only one version for public use has been built that is the Shanghai airport Express. It is supported by the Chinese government to foot the bills. The ridership is substantial but costs can't be recovered via ticket sales alone.

MagLev Costs are due to technical complexity. Maglevs are basically like two same polarity magnets floating on top of one another due to magnetic repulsion, continiously balancing out one another. But here is where the Similarity ends.

One needs electromagnets for lifting a train which itlsef is another electromagnet, and it is heavy because of passenger, batteries (to keep the train powered and the magnets), magnetic shielding and heat dissipation (heating happens due to eddy induced current). These magnetic rails are made up of superconductors which have to be maintained at very low temperatures, (an even though they are switched on and off very fast, the cooling is mantained at atleast a 100 Degrees Centigrade below Zero, this costs money). And you have to have computers to keep every thing balanced.

This is how it moves.

Magnetic-levitation-system-of-the-Transrapid-maglev-train.png


Sit back and admire the effort taken to remove the wheels & rails, technically this is an engineers space age dream project. I'd love to do this, provided if anyone is ready to fund me. :p . Now fathom the energy costs, electrical and control & instrumentation system, networking required to keep all that going...

At 600kmph the train still has to remove that volume of air out of its way and keep moving forwards, the propulsion system must deliver the energy required to overcome drag forces. This will be more or less a constant till 2000m form MSL. So those wont change.

Hence we find ourselves here.
Top Class post. If this were PDF & I in a position to award you a positive point, I'd award 2.
 
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Just another query. The technical aspects ( wheels & track life) would apply to a bullet train running on rails not to MagLev trains, if I'm not mistaken. Secondly, AI ( driverless technologies) and enclosing the entire length of such a MagLev train to account for the safety factor can be possibilities which can be considered in the future as such technologies develop leaving only the commercial viability vis a vis energy consumption to be vaildated. Your views @Ashutosh ; @Bali78
Maglev is not only prohibitively expensive to build, the operating expense is also too high. That is the prime reason it didn't find many takers. Even China didn't proceed for other projects after building the showcase Shanghai airport Maglev and rather chose to go for traditional high speed trains. 15 years back Shanghai Maglev construction cost was 1.2 B$ for just 30 kms !!
 
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In boon for Vaishno Devi pilgrims, Vande Bharat Express to soon run between Delhi and Katra

Travelers would soon be able to reach Katra from New Delhi in eight hours, cutting down travel time by two to four hours.
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Written By: Sameer Dixit
Edited By: Shubhodeep Chakravarty, Updated:Jun 27, 2019, 08:02 AM IST


The Narendra Modi government has decided to soon launch the Vande Bharat Express - India's first semi high-speed train - on the route between Delhi and Katra in what would be a big gain for pilgrims making their way to Vaishno Devi.

The decision to launch Vande Bharat Express was taken recently and trial runs are expected to begin in the immediate future. It is estimated that once commercial runs officially begin, travellers can cover the distance in just eight hours. It currently takes between 10 and 12 hours to reach Katra by train from Delhi.

Once the trails are successfully completed, the Vande Bharat Express - capable of speeds of 130kmph, will leave New Delhi station and make stops in Ambala, Ludhiana and Jammu Tawi before making its way towards Katra. According to plans of the Railway Ministry, the train will depart from New Delhi at 0600hrs, reach Ambala at 0810hrs where it will halt for two minutes before leaving for Ludhiana where it will reach at 0922hrs. The stoppage here too would be for two minutes. It would then make way for Jammu Tawi and reach at 1240hrs and eventually reach Katra at 1400hrs.

On its return leg, the Vande Bharat Express will depart from Katra at 1500hrs, reach Jammu Tawi at 1618hrs, stop at Ludhiana at 1936hrs, touch Ambala at 2056hrs and eventually reach New Delhi at 2300hrs. The stoppage at each of the three stations before New Delhi would once again be for two minutes.

Since authorities have planned for the train to run at 130kmph between New Delhi and Ludhiana, the trials too would be at these speeds between the two stations.

A shining example of the 'Make-in-India' campaign, the first run of Vande Bharat Express had started its first commercial run in February between New Delhi and Varanasi. The train not only promises high speeds but also has a number of safety and comfort features like automatic doors, 180-degree rotational seats, WiFi and infotainment systems.

In boon for Vaishno Devi pilgrims, Vande Bharat Express to soon run between Delhi and Katra
 
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Indian Railways’ Vande Bharat Express Notches Another Achievement; Breaks Speed Record, Wins Award

by Swarajya Staff - Jun 27 2019, 1:39 pm
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The loco-pilot of the train has also received recognition from the Indian Railways for maintaining the train at peak speeds. (image via @PiyushGoyalOffice/Facebook)

The Vande Bharat Express (Train-18) runs at 104 km/hr on the Ghaziabad-Allahabad line, making it the average highest speed in India, Zee Business India reports. The first indigenous engine-less semi high-speed train is designed and built by the Chennai’s Integral Coach Factory (ICF) and government’s ‘Make in India’ in 18 months.

Further, the train has completed running for at least 1.35 lakh km, without missing a single trip since it was flagged off by Prime Minister Narendra Modi on 15 February at the New Delhi railway station.

To ensure the train can run at such high-speed consistently, the Indian Railways had to do major tweaks including improving the railway track. The loco-pilot of the train has also received recognition from the Indian Railways for maintaining the train at peak speeds.

Railway ministry has also made changes inside of the train to provide commuters with the best in class experience. The toilet facility is markedly improved from other trains, and the ministry is also planning to improve better catering services by providing a pantry car for the train.

Indian Railways’ Vande Bharat Express Notches Another Achievement; Breaks Speed Record, Wins Award
 
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Railways conducting trials of new technology to tackle fog: Piyush Goyal

PTI | Updated on June 28, 2019, Published on June 28, 2019
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Indian Railways is testing new technology to ensure safety during heavy fog (file photo) - THE HINDU

The tri-netra system comprises infrared, optical cameras and radar assisted imaging system to help loco pilots to identify obstructions on tracks, especially in foggy conditions.
Railways is conducting extensive trials of Tri-Netra technology but it cannot be introduced till it is found to be perfect in detecting any obstruction on tracks during fog, the Rajya Sabha was informed Friday.

Railway Minister Piyush Goyal told members during the Question Hour that the Tri-Netra system is another attempt by the Railways to develop modern technology.

“This is also under extensive trials. This Tri-netra device is making an attempt during fog through ultrasonic waves where it will be able to detect any obstruction on tracks. It is under testing, but without proper testing it cannot be implemented, as it does not give us the confidence to implement it,” the minister said.

“The TRI-NETRA (Terrain Imaging for Drivers Infrared, Enhanced, Optical & Radar Assisted) system comprises infrared camera, optical camera and radar assisted imaging system to assist loco pilots to identify obstructions on tracks, especially in foggy conditions. Its testing on all parameters will be done after its procurement and field trials as proof of concept,” the minister said in his written reply.

Railways conducting trials of new technology to tackle fog: Piyush Goyal
 
Indian Railways game-changer project: Entire broad gauge network to be electrified in 2 years
By: Devanjana Nag | New Delhi | Published: June 29, 2019 2:40:17 PM

The decision has been taken by the Railway Ministry, keeping in view the advantages of electrification as well as to achieve seamless operations on electric traction over the entire Indian Railways' broad gauge network.
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As per the zone-wise details provided by the Railway Ministry to electrify the remaining broad gauge routes include 1,073 kms of Central Railways, 622 kms of Eastern Railways

Indian Railways bets on electrification! Indian Railways is all set to electrify its entire broad gauge network in the next two years. Railway Minister Piyush Goyal, while replying to a question in the Lok Sabha, recently said that the national transporter has set a target of 2021-2022 to electrify its entire broad gauge network. Indian Railways has a total of 28,810 route kms left for electrification, he said.

With this, Indian Railways will become the world’s first 100% electrical railway network, Goyal hopes. The decision has been taken by the Railway Ministry, keeping in view the advantages of electrification as well as to achieve seamless operations on electric traction over the entire Indian Railways’ broad gauge network.

As per the zone-wise details provided by the Railway Ministry to electrify the remaining broad gauge routes include 1,073 kms of Central Railways, 622 kms of Eastern Railways, 821 kms of East Central Railways, 447 kms of East Coast Railways, 2,779 kms of Northern Railways, 866 kms of North Central Railways, 2,340 kms of North Eastern Railways, 3,852 kms of Northeast Frontier Railways, 4,241 kms of North Western Railways, 1,471 kms of Southern Railways, 2,542 kms of South Central Railways, 296 kms of South Eastern Railways, 535 kms of South East Central Railways, 2,702 kms of South Western Railways, 2,633 kms of Western Railways, 850 kms of West Central Railways and 740 kms of Konkan Railways. In the Lok Sabha, Goyal also informed that the electrification work on the balance routes has been sanctioned already.

Meanwhile, the Railway Minister also announced that no new infrastructure for the production of diesel locomotives has been proposed by the national transporter after the decision of 100 per cent electrification was made in September 2018. Goyal further said that the diesel locomotives that will be manufactured at Diesel Locomotive Factory in Marhowra, Bihar shall be required by Indian Railways for strategic, emergency as well as certain operational reasons.

Indian Railways game-changer project: Entire broad gauge network to be electrified in 2 years
 
Indian Railways game-changer project: Entire broad gauge network to be electrified in 2 years
By: Devanjana Nag | New Delhi | Published: June 29, 2019 2:40:17 PM

The decision has been taken by the Railway Ministry, keeping in view the advantages of electrification as well as to achieve seamless operations on electric traction over the entire Indian Railways' broad gauge network.
indian-railways-photo.jpg

As per the zone-wise details provided by the Railway Ministry to electrify the remaining broad gauge routes include 1,073 kms of Central Railways, 622 kms of Eastern Railways

Indian Railways bets on electrification! Indian Railways is all set to electrify its entire broad gauge network in the next two years. Railway Minister Piyush Goyal, while replying to a question in the Lok Sabha, recently said that the national transporter has set a target of 2021-2022 to electrify its entire broad gauge network. Indian Railways has a total of 28,810 route kms left for electrification, he said.

With this, Indian Railways will become the world’s first 100% electrical railway network, Goyal hopes. The decision has been taken by the Railway Ministry, keeping in view the advantages of electrification as well as to achieve seamless operations on electric traction over the entire Indian Railways’ broad gauge network.

As per the zone-wise details provided by the Railway Ministry to electrify the remaining broad gauge routes include 1,073 kms of Central Railways, 622 kms of Eastern Railways, 821 kms of East Central Railways, 447 kms of East Coast Railways, 2,779 kms of Northern Railways, 866 kms of North Central Railways, 2,340 kms of North Eastern Railways, 3,852 kms of Northeast Frontier Railways, 4,241 kms of North Western Railways, 1,471 kms of Southern Railways, 2,542 kms of South Central Railways, 296 kms of South Eastern Railways, 535 kms of South East Central Railways, 2,702 kms of South Western Railways, 2,633 kms of Western Railways, 850 kms of West Central Railways and 740 kms of Konkan Railways. In the Lok Sabha, Goyal also informed that the electrification work on the balance routes has been sanctioned already.

Meanwhile, the Railway Minister also announced that no new infrastructure for the production of diesel locomotives has been proposed by the national transporter after the decision of 100 per cent electrification was made in September 2018. Goyal further said that the diesel locomotives that will be manufactured at Diesel Locomotive Factory in Marhowra, Bihar shall be required by Indian Railways for strategic, emergency as well as certain operational reasons.

Indian Railways game-changer project: Entire broad gauge network to be electrified in 2 years
What happens to the GE factory at Marhaura supposed to manufacture 1000 diesel locomotives for freight & Alstom - Madhepura supposed to manufacture 800 diesel locomotives ?
 
What happens to the GE factory at Marhaura supposed to manufacture 1000 diesel locomotives for freight & Alstom - Madhepura supposed to manufacture 800 diesel locomotives ?
I don't have a source link right now, but I've read somewhere that the plan is to move to electric is for passenger trains only at least initially. The freight trains will continue to be diesel engine powered. Also a lot of these factories from foreign manufacturers are targeting exports not just the Indian market. You can recall the recent introduction of Indian made Alstom trains for the Sydney metro.
 
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What happens to the GE factory at Marhaura supposed to manufacture 1000 diesel locomotives for freight & Alstom - Madhepura supposed to manufacture 800 diesel locomotives ?

Those will get manufactured. Diesels are a requirement. We can use diesels everywhere while this isn't true for electrical units, and what if there is a calamity and electrical lines are shut/damaged. Operations will have to be restored quickly. In case of war if asn adversary takes out power lines the entire railway infra structure will be defunct.
 
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You can recall the recent introduction of Indian made Alstom trains for the Sydney metro.

I doubt if that was from this factory. Besides the Madhepura & Marhaura plants were built specifically for consumption within India. There's still a decade before they complete their production quota. I believe that should cater to our freight sector, if indeed, that's what the IR & GoI are targetting. The article you've quoted doesn't say that. It specifically says :-
Goyal further said that the diesel locomotives that will be manufactured at Diesel Locomotive Factory in Marhowra, Bihar shall be required by Indian Railways for strategic, emergency as well as certain operational reasons.

I wonder if all 1800 trains are needed for such operations as described above.
 
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Mumbai-Ahmedabad bullet train project: 24 high-speed E5 Shinkansen tech train sets to be procured from Japan

By: Devanjana Nag | New Delhi | Published: June 29, 2019 12:44:48 PM

Mumbai-Ahmedabad bullet train project: Piyush Goyal, while replying to a query in the Rajya Sabha, has said that the estimated cost of the Mumbai-Ahmedabad bullet train project is Rs 1,08,000 crore.
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Indian Railways is gearing up for the country’s first ever bullet train.

Mumbai-Ahmedabad bullet train project: Railway Minister Piyush Goyal has stated that as many as 24 bullet train sets have been planned for procurement from Japanese companies through tendering process for the upcoming Mumbai-Ahmedabad bullet train project. The high-speed train is being developed on E5 Shinkansen technology of Japan. According to Goyal, as per the memorandum of understanding (MoU) signed between the NHSRCL and the Japanese side, in order to promote Modi government’s ambitious ‘Make in India’ initiative, at present, 6 out of over 24 train sets are planned for assembling in India. The location for this is to be decided by the Japanese supplier, he added.

Piyush Goyal, while replying to a query in the Rajya Sabha, has said that the estimated cost of the Mumbai-Ahmedabad bullet train project is Rs 1,08,000 crore. This includes the cost that will be incurred on the rolling stock as well. He further said that 81 per cent of this amount will be funded through the loan from the Japanese firm, Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA). The high-speed rail project is targeted to be completed by the year 2023.

Indian Railways is gearing up for the country’s first ever bullet train. The ambitious high-speed rail project, which is being implemented by the National High Speed Rail Corporation Limited (NHSRCL) will link the two prominent financial hubs of India, Mumbai and Ahmedabad. The corridor of this project would be 508 km long.

The high-speed train will be operated at a speed of 320 kmph. It will be equipped with several modern features. Additionally, multi-purpose rooms will be provided for the needs of feeding mothers and patients. The bullet train, en route both directions, will cover 12 railway stations namely, Mumbai, Boisar, Vapi, Virar, Thane, Sabarmati, Vadodara, Anand, Bharuch, Bilimora, Surat and Ahmedabad stations. Meanwhile, earlier this year it was reported that the Railway Board has asked NHSRCL to study the feasibility of 10 more corridors for bullet train projects.


Mumbai-Ahmedabad bullet train project: 24 high-speed E5 Shinkansen tech train sets to be procured from Japan
 
38.91% land acquisition done for bullet train project: Piyush Goyal
1 min read . Updated: 03 Jul 2019, 06:23 PM IST PTI
  • Goyal also said that out of the total estimated cost of ₹1,08,000 crore, ₹2,860 crore has been utilised
  • The project is targeted for completion in December, 2023 to start bullet train operation
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Union Minister for Railways Piyush Goyal speaks in the Lok Sabha during the Budget Session of Parliament.

NEW DELHI: Railways has acquired 537 hectare of land out of the total 1380 hectare needed for the bullet train project between Mumbai and Ahmedabad, the Parliament was told on Wednesday.

Replying to a question in Lok Sabha, Railway Minister Piyush Goyal said the land acquisition for the High Speed Rail Project also known as Bullet Train Project is currently underway.

"National High Speed Rail Corporation Limited (NHSRCL), a Special Purpose Vehicle (SPV) has been set up to execute the Project. Land acquisition for the project is under progress and so far, out of total 1380 hectare of land required, 537 hectare has been acquired," he said.

Goyal also said that out of the total estimated cost of ₹1,08,000 crore, ₹2,860 crore has been utilised by NHSRCL for undertaking various works on the project till date. The project is targeted for completion in December, 2023 to start bullet train operation.

38.91% land acquisition done for bullet train project: Piyush Goyal