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I wish to give you a pearl of wisdom if you can understand it.
You seem to love Mongols. They knew the difference in fighting and administration. They never converted those Hindus whom they needed to run their economy and tax collection. Please read the history. Most of their tax collectors were Brahmins and Punjabi Khatris. But what you did as Pakistan? You converted everyone to Islam and a third rate warrior who are devoid of the knowledge of governance and administration.
War fighting requires a very different set of skills but administration needs a very stable mind. With everyone a jungjoo, Pakistan has become a failed state as it does not know how to govern itself and knows only how to fight. The net result is that now you are fighting among yourselves.
I will give you another anecedote. When Our Dashmesh Guru Govind Singh created Khalsa, he did not ask his most beloved economic advisors to become a khalsa. As he knew the difference in fighting and administration. A good administration sustains the war fighting potential of a kingdom but a good war fighting kingdom with poor administration will collapse like Mongols did under Aurangzeb.
He was the Mongul with largest empire under under him but wasted all the enrgy by forcefully converting Hindus to Islam. We all know what happened to that empire within two years of his death. Mongols had become bankrupt and needed the support of Marathas to survive in 1709.
I have never heard about khalsa and guru but you are right.we don't have intelligent people on higher posts but this Hindu to Muslim conversion thing is just a blame.i have many Hindu friends.they don't eat chicken in biryani but they like biryani.they are living happily here.
If you haven't heard or read about the Sikh gurus and Sikhism - a shared legacy of both parts of the Punjab, then there's a huge lacunae on your part in understanding the Sikh psyche as well as the larger Indian psyche. This also translates into very little or abysmal knowledge on the history of Pakistan and consequently India before the arrival of Bin Qasim in Sind or about Maharaja Ranjit Singh or the freedom struggle against the British.
Is it any wonder that the rest of your compatriots including you have been brought up on the various triumphs of the Arabs and the Turco- Afghans or the Mongols or even the Persians mistaking their achievements as your own? Something clearly manifested in your naming of your missiles after all these conquerors ( none of them were born in what is now Pakistan) when the first lands they conquered in their conquest of India lay in Pakistan - KPK & Pakistani Punjab, where in the pillage, looting, rapine & slaughter that was to ensue in the rest of North India began in what's your land and with your people today.
"Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.''George Santayana
"History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce."Karl Marx
Focus on the latter half of the second quotation. That's how far you've progressed today.
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What these Pak Punjabis don't know is that Islam went across Europe within 50years of its inception and within 100years it had taken control of what is now central Asia and Eastern Europe. But they had to wait till 12th century to conquer Hindu Afghanistan and Punjab which were hardcore Hindu territories. And even after that, they failed to convert Hindus to Islam while they did that very easily in Arabiya, North Africa, Portugal, Eastern Europe and central Asia.
Those Idiots who say and accept that muslims ruled India for 1000years must explain as to why we are still Hindu and not muslims if muslims indeed ruled us for 1000 years?
Accountability judge 'blackmailed' into issuing verdict against Nawaz: Maryam - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
Well Pakistan Army got caught Pants down again, the competent lot can't even win over their own civilians.
Hey jackasses can you do one thing properly? Tell your fanboys truth about 27th Feb, that deluded lot somehow think you won anything
tell your reality to your public losers.
Well Pakistan Army got caught Pants down again, the competent lot can't even win over their own civilians.
Hey jackasses can you do one thing properly? Tell your fanboys truth about 27th Feb, that deluded lot somehow think you won anything
tell your reality to your public losers.
Taha Siddiqui (@TahaSSiddiqui) Tweeted:
The #ISI is fully involved in manipulating judiciary by deciding benches in courts, allocating cases to different judges & controlling outcomes: Justice Shaukat Siddiqui.
Ironically he predicted the worst for him in this video & shortly after lost his job over unrelated charges. Taha Siddiqui on Twitter ( )
The #ISI is fully involved in manipulating judiciary by deciding benches in courts, allocating cases to different judges & controlling outcomes: Justice Shaukat Siddiqui.
Ironically he predicted the worst for him in this video & shortly after lost his job over unrelated charges. Taha Siddiqui on Twitter ( )
Meanwhile Twitterati from Pakistan also do this
Ibn Sina (@Ibne_Sena) Tweeted:
Ya Habibi @GandapurPAT This is a game called GTA V
I don't know konsi charas pi kar yeh tweet kar diya
Sasta Nasha Karne ka faida Khurram Nawaz Gandapur on Twitter (
)
Ibn Sina (@Ibne_Sena) Tweeted:
Ya Habibi @GandapurPAT This is a game called GTA V
I don't know konsi charas pi kar yeh tweet kar diya
Sasta Nasha Karne ka faida Khurram Nawaz Gandapur on Twitter (
)
You can read here Martyrdom of the 3 Sikhs - SikhiWiki, free Sikh encyclopedia.
Bhai Mati Das
Bhai Mati Das was sawn into two, from head downwards
Main article: Bhai Mati Das
Bhai Mati Das (d. 24 November 1675) (Punjabi: ਭਾਈ ਮਤੀ ਦਾਸ) is one of the great martyrs in Sikh history. He along with his younger brother Bhai Sati Das and Bhai Dyal Das, all disciples of the ninth Sikh Guru, Guru Teg Bahadur, were executed along with him at the Kotwali (police-station) near the Sunehri Masjid in the Chandni Chowk area of Old Delhi, under the express orders of emperor Aurangzeb.
Mati Das while standing erect was tied between two posts. He was asked if he had any parting words, to which Mati Das answered, "I request only that my head be turned toward my Guru as I am executed." Two executioners placed a double-handed saw on his head. Mati Das serenely uttered "Ek Onkar" and started reciting the Japji Sahib, the great morning prayer of the Sikhs. He was sawn in half from head to loins. It is said that even as the body was being sawn into two, the Japji continued to reverberate from each part until it was all over.
Bhai Sati Das
Bhai Sati Das
Main article: Bhai Sati Das
BHAI SATI DAS (d. 24 November 1675), (Punjabi: ਭਾਈ ਸਤੀ ਦਾਸ) was the second martyr who was executed in direct sight of Guru Tegh Bahadur in November 1675. He was the younger brother of Diwan Mati Das. According to Bhatt Vahl Talauda he served Guru Tegh Bahadur as a cook.
The Guru and his companions were arrested on the way and taken to Delhi in early 1675. Like his brother Mati Das, Sati Das refused to abandon his faith and refused to covert to Islam. He was therefore sentenced to death. As a way to provoke the Guru, he was tortured in direct sight of the ninth Sikh Guru. Wrapped up in cotton wool, he was set alight and was roasted alive. This happened on 15 November 1675, a few days after Bhai Mati Das was executed.
Bhai Dayal Das
Bhai Dayal Das being martyred by boiling alive in a hot couldron.
Main article: Bhai Dayal Das
Bhai Dayal Das (variously spelt as Bhai Dyala, Dayala, Diala)(died 24 November 1675) was son of Bhai Mati Das and younger brother of martyr Bhai Mani Singh ji. He was one of the earliest and greatest Martyrs to the Sikh faith. Along with his companions Bhai Mati Das and Bhai Sati Das as well as Ninth Guru, Guru Teg Bahadur, Bhai Dayala was martyred at Chandni Chowk at Delhi on 18 November 1675 on account of his refusal to barter his faith. He was the third Sikh to be executed by the Mughals in November 1675 before the Martyrdom of Guru Tegh Bahadar.
Bhai Dayal Das was asked for a final time if he would leave his faith and embrace Islam. Bhai sahib defiantly and consistently answered, "No!" to the qazi's repeated requests. This infuriated the qazi who pronunced his immediate torture and death.
The executioners sat Bhai Sahib in the cauldron of water under which a large fire was lit. Slowly the water was let warm; then it was hot; soon it was too hot and then it was boiling. Bhai Dayala continued to his last breath to recite the Japji of Guru Nanak and the Sukhmani of Guru Arjan. He stayed on, sitting in the water, with an unwavering mind. His flesh separated from his bones and his soul departed to merge into the Supreme Being.
It is better to ignore debating with an idiot, else he will pull you down to his level IQ and waste all of your time.
Democracy A-la Pakistan Army ishtyle.....
Fk U America and your laws to Stop military rule...
Sir I am not Mughal.mughal empire ended because of their own mistakes.i am only a Muslim with interest towards ottoman empire.i also read rashedun caliphate.i like ashoka.i like Richard the lion heart and saladdin.sir today Sikh community understands that it was not Pakistani people who hanged their people.sikhs are mostly friendly towards Pakistani people.sikhs are strong and powerful people.You can read here Martyrdom of the 3 Sikhs - SikhiWiki, free Sikh encyclopedia.
Bhai Mati Das
Bhai Mati Das was sawn into two, from head downwards
Main article: Bhai Mati Das
Bhai Mati Das (d. 24 November 1675) (Punjabi: ਭਾਈ ਮਤੀ ਦਾਸ) is one of the great martyrs in Sikh history. He along with his younger brother Bhai Sati Das and Bhai Dyal Das, all disciples of the ninth Sikh Guru, Guru Teg Bahadur, were executed along with him at the Kotwali (police-station) near the Sunehri Masjid in the Chandni Chowk area of Old Delhi, under the express orders of emperor Aurangzeb.
Mati Das while standing erect was tied between two posts. He was asked if he had any parting words, to which Mati Das answered, "I request only that my head be turned toward my Guru as I am executed." Two executioners placed a double-handed saw on his head. Mati Das serenely uttered "Ek Onkar" and started reciting the Japji Sahib, the great morning prayer of the Sikhs. He was sawn in half from head to loins. It is said that even as the body was being sawn into two, the Japji continued to reverberate from each part until it was all over.
Bhai Sati Das
Bhai Sati Das
Main article: Bhai Sati Das
BHAI SATI DAS (d. 24 November 1675), (Punjabi: ਭਾਈ ਸਤੀ ਦਾਸ) was the second martyr who was executed in direct sight of Guru Tegh Bahadur in November 1675. He was the younger brother of Diwan Mati Das. According to Bhatt Vahl Talauda he served Guru Tegh Bahadur as a cook.
The Guru and his companions were arrested on the way and taken to Delhi in early 1675. Like his brother Mati Das, Sati Das refused to abandon his faith and refused to covert to Islam. He was therefore sentenced to death. As a way to provoke the Guru, he was tortured in direct sight of the ninth Sikh Guru. Wrapped up in cotton wool, he was set alight and was roasted alive. This happened on 15 November 1675, a few days after Bhai Mati Das was executed.
Bhai Dayal Das
Bhai Dayal Das being martyred by boiling alive in a hot couldron.
Main article: Bhai Dayal Das
Bhai Dayal Das (variously spelt as Bhai Dyala, Dayala, Diala)(died 24 November 1675) was son of Bhai Mati Das and younger brother of martyr Bhai Mani Singh ji. He was one of the earliest and greatest Martyrs to the Sikh faith. Along with his companions Bhai Mati Das and Bhai Sati Das as well as Ninth Guru, Guru Teg Bahadur, Bhai Dayala was martyred at Chandni Chowk at Delhi on 18 November 1675 on account of his refusal to barter his faith. He was the third Sikh to be executed by the Mughals in November 1675 before the Martyrdom of Guru Tegh Bahadar.
Bhai Dayal Das was asked for a final time if he would leave his faith and embrace Islam. Bhai sahib defiantly and consistently answered, "No!" to the qazi's repeated requests. This infuriated the qazi who pronunced his immediate torture and death.
The executioners sat Bhai Sahib in the cauldron of water under which a large fire was lit. Slowly the water was let warm; then it was hot; soon it was too hot and then it was boiling. Bhai Dayala continued to his last breath to recite the Japji of Guru Nanak and the Sukhmani of Guru Arjan. He stayed on, sitting in the water, with an unwavering mind. His flesh separated from his bones and his soul departed to merge into the Supreme Being.
Thanks to Gandhi, Nehru and Lutyens, You won't find these in open debates. They suppressed reality of Muslims rulers by not teaching these in schools, not a single government in India dared to publish this in history text books. They print how Hitler Nazi Germany meted out attrocities on Jews but hide how Hindus and Sikhs suffered at the hands of Muslim rulers who came from Mongolia, Iran, central Asia and especially Moguls. Our history text books are filled with lies praising mogul rulers and not telling what they did to Hindus and Sikhs. The legacy still continues with Pakistanis and Muslims in India still have itch to take on Hindus, Sikhs and all others who don't believe in their ideology of Islam.You can read here Martyrdom of the 3 Sikhs - SikhiWiki, free Sikh encyclopedia.
Bhai Mati Das
Bhai Mati Das was sawn into two, from head downwards
Main article: Bhai Mati Das
Bhai Mati Das (d. 24 November 1675) (Punjabi: ਭਾਈ ਮਤੀ ਦਾਸ) is one of the great martyrs in Sikh history. He along with his younger brother Bhai Sati Das and Bhai Dyal Das, all disciples of the ninth Sikh Guru, Guru Teg Bahadur, were executed along with him at the Kotwali (police-station) near the Sunehri Masjid in the Chandni Chowk area of Old Delhi, under the express orders of emperor Aurangzeb.
Mati Das while standing erect was tied between two posts. He was asked if he had any parting words, to which Mati Das answered, "I request only that my head be turned toward my Guru as I am executed." Two executioners placed a double-handed saw on his head. Mati Das serenely uttered "Ek Onkar" and started reciting the Japji Sahib, the great morning prayer of the Sikhs. He was sawn in half from head to loins. It is said that even as the body was being sawn into two, the Japji continued to reverberate from each part until it was all over.
Bhai Sati Das
Bhai Sati Das
Main article: Bhai Sati Das
BHAI SATI DAS (d. 24 November 1675), (Punjabi: ਭਾਈ ਸਤੀ ਦਾਸ) was the second martyr who was executed in direct sight of Guru Tegh Bahadur in November 1675. He was the younger brother of Diwan Mati Das. According to Bhatt Vahl Talauda he served Guru Tegh Bahadur as a cook.
The Guru and his companions were arrested on the way and taken to Delhi in early 1675. Like his brother Mati Das, Sati Das refused to abandon his faith and refused to covert to Islam. He was therefore sentenced to death. As a way to provoke the Guru, he was tortured in direct sight of the ninth Sikh Guru. Wrapped up in cotton wool, he was set alight and was roasted alive. This happened on 15 November 1675, a few days after Bhai Mati Das was executed.
Bhai Dayal Das
Bhai Dayal Das being martyred by boiling alive in a hot couldron.
Main article: Bhai Dayal Das
Bhai Dayal Das (variously spelt as Bhai Dyala, Dayala, Diala)(died 24 November 1675) was son of Bhai Mati Das and younger brother of martyr Bhai Mani Singh ji. He was one of the earliest and greatest Martyrs to the Sikh faith. Along with his companions Bhai Mati Das and Bhai Sati Das as well as Ninth Guru, Guru Teg Bahadur, Bhai Dayala was martyred at Chandni Chowk at Delhi on 18 November 1675 on account of his refusal to barter his faith. He was the third Sikh to be executed by the Mughals in November 1675 before the Martyrdom of Guru Tegh Bahadar.
Bhai Dayal Das was asked for a final time if he would leave his faith and embrace Islam. Bhai sahib defiantly and consistently answered, "No!" to the qazi's repeated requests. This infuriated the qazi who pronunced his immediate torture and death.
The executioners sat Bhai Sahib in the cauldron of water under which a large fire was lit. Slowly the water was let warm; then it was hot; soon it was too hot and then it was boiling. Bhai Dayala continued to his last breath to recite the Japji of Guru Nanak and the Sukhmani of Guru Arjan. He stayed on, sitting in the water, with an unwavering mind. His flesh separated from his bones and his soul departed to merge into the Supreme Being.
We need to use the SM to educate our people beyond the CBSE books.
There is always a goat somewhere
Pak PM Imran Khan Has Assets Worth Over 10 Crore, Also Owns 4 Goats
Pak PM Imran Khan Has Assets Worth Over 10 Crore, Also Owns 4 Goats
A goat is every Pakistani's first and true love. In many cases the only love.Kashmir comes a distant second. Then comes everything else.