Meanwhile in parallel universe....."The corner plot distribution" was not done smartly
Old news but interesting.
Reality of Pakistan's indigenous missile program. Indigenous my foot!
‘Sanctions reminder to Pakistan of American carrot and stick policy’
Shuja Nawaz, a fellow at the South Asia Center of the Atlantic Council in Washington, told Dawn that “the nub of US sanctions on four entities allegedly supplying missile technology to Pakistan is captured in its stated aim: The ultimate goal of sanctions is not to punish, but to bring about a positive change in behavior.”
But he also noted that the sanctions directly punished Pakistan for pursuing the development of missiles.
“In a week when the US officialdom went out of its way to assist Pakistan in its economic recovery efforts via the IMF, World Bank, and the Asian Development Bank, as well as US development finance institutions, these sanctions are going to punish Pakistan publicly,” Nawaz said, adding that this was “a reminder that for all the carrots, there are sticks that the US can deploy.”
Nawaz suggested that Pakistani authorities should also “ask themselves who inside Pakistan provided the information to American authorities?”
Pakistan completed its previous $3 billion loan program in April.
China condemns terrorist attack in Pakistan that left 2 Chinese dead
The Chinese Embassy in Pakistan strongly condemned a terrorist attack in Karachi on October 6 that caused multiple casualties, including two Chinese people.news.cgtn.com
interesting, 7 might be total casualties not just chinese or may be the injured were not yet declared dead if the 7 were chinese, we have to see.They are claiming 7 Chinese personnel dead:
As expected chinese pressuring pak:interesting, 7 might be total casualties not just chinese or may be the injured were not yet declared dead if the 7 were chinese, we have to see.
Pak and China both suppress these kind of info, last time in Dasu dam attack Pak claimed it as bus accident, but chinese pressured them to accept it as militant attack and collected compensation from pak govt. iirc.
Even now ISPR tout accounts(jana shah aunty, eagle eyes, waleed osint) initially claimed it as tanker explosion
and then you have this adil raja saying isi did it to pin blame on pti
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- Beijing proposes operations by joint forces, military, says document
- China frustrated at string of attacks on its citizens
- It wants operational control of security, sources say
- Islamabad, Beijing in talks for joint security system
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Exclusive: Beijing pushes to join security efforts for citizens in Pakistan, sources say
By Asif Shahzad
November 12, 20246:46 PM GMT+5:30Updated 8 days ago
Members of the bomb disposal squad in plain clothes, survey the area after yesterday's attack on a police station, in Karachi, Pakistan February 18, 2023. REUTERS/Akhtar Soomro/File Photo Purchase Licensing Rights, opens new tab
ISLAMABAD, Nov 12 (Reuters) - Beijing is pushing Pakistan to allow its own security staff to provide protection to thousands of Chinese citizens working in the South Asian nation, during talks after a car bombing in Karachi that was seen as a major security breach, sources said.
- Summary
- Beijing proposes operations by joint forces, military, says document
- China frustrated at string of attacks on its citizens
- It wants operational control of security, sources say
- Islamabad, Beijing in talks for joint security system
Last month's airport bombing in the southern port city that killed two Chinese engineers returning to work on a project after a holiday in Thailand was the latest in a string of attacks on Beijing's interests in Pakistan.
The attacks, and Islamabad's failure to deter them, have angered China, which has pushed Pakistan to begin formal negotiations for a joint security management system.
Reuters spoke to five Pakistani security and government sources with direct knowledge of the previously unreported negotiations and demands on condition of anonymity, as the talks are sensitive, and reviewed a written proposal sent by Beijing to Islamabad.
"They (Chinese) want to bring in their own security," said one official, who sat in on a recent meeting, adding that Pakistan had not so far agreed to such a step.
A written proposal sent to Islamabad by Beijing, and forwarded to Pakistani security agencies for review, mentioned a clause allowing the dispatching of security agencies and military forces into each others' territory to assist in counter-terrorism missions and conduct joint strikes.
The dispatching would be done after discussions, but Pakistani agencies were averse to the proposal, one official said.
Neither Beijing nor Islamabad confirmed the talks officially.
The source, and two other officials, said there was a consensus on setting up a joint security management system, and that Pakistan was amenable to Chinese officials sitting in on security meetings and co-ordination.
But there was no agreement on their participating in security arrangements on the ground.
The first official said Pakistan had asked China for help in improving its intelligence and surveillance capabilities instead of direct involvement.
A spokesman for China's foreign ministry told Reuters it was not familiar with talks on a joint security scheme, but added, "China will continue to strengthen co-operation with Pakistan and make joint efforts to do its utmost to maintain the security of Chinese personnel, projects and institutions."
Inter-Services Public Relations, the information wing of the Pakistan army, declined to comment. The interior and planning ministries did not respond to repeated requests for comment.
In a statement last week, Pakistan's interior ministry said both sides agreed to develop a joint strategy to prevent similar incidents in the future.
'GRAVE SECURITY BREACH'
The nature of the Karachi bombing has angered Beijing, which is now pushing harder to achieve a long standing demand to control security arrangements for its citizens.
A pick-up truck rigged with nearly 100 kg (220 lbs) of explosives waited unchecked for about 40 minutes near the outermost security cordon of the heavily guarded airport before its driver rammed it into a vehicle carrying Chinese engineers, officials said.
"It was a grave security breach," admitted one of the officials investigating the bombing, which came just a week before Chinese Premier Li Qiang's visit to Islamabad, the first such trip in a decade.
The official said investigators believe the attackers had "inside help" in securing details of the itinerary and route of the engineers, who had returned from a month off in Thailand.
They were to be escorted back to a power plant set up as part of plans for the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC).
Longtime Pakistan ally China has thousands of nationals working on projects grouped under the CPEC, a $65-billion investment in President Xi Jinping's Belt and Road Initiative, which seeks to expand China's global reach by road, rail and sea.
'CHINESE FRUSTRATIONS'
Publicly China has mostly backed Pakistan's arrangements, even as it calls for enhanced security.
Privately, Beijing has expressed frustration. At one recent meeting, the Chinese side provided evidence that Pakistan had failed to follow security protocols agreed on twice in recent months, three officials said.
Such protocols usually feature high standards for deployment and movement of Chinese officials.
Chinese nationals have been in the crosshairs of separatist militants who see Beijing as helping Pakistan exploit minerals in the underdeveloped southwestern province of Balochistan, where China has a strategic port and mining interests.
Thousands of Pakistani security officers from the army, police and a dedicated force called the Special Protection Unit are posted to guard Chinese nationals.
Only China's embassy in Islamabad and its consulates are allowed Chinese official security personnel, the Pakistani officials said.
Reporting by Asif Shahzad
They said that Pakistan had initially ordered around 176 VT-4 tanks from China in 2017 to replace its aging fleet of Main Battle Tanks. The order was subsequently increased to 300 tanks, which were used to equip Pakistan’s elite armoured division under Mangla Corps.
Much to the Pakistan Army’s despair, the tank developed various issues during the post-delivery tests and field firing trials.
Sources explained that, given the teething issues with the imported VT-4 tanks and also because of severe financial constraints, the goal to buy more VT-4s was scaled down.
However, to maintain combat parity with the Indian Army, Pakistan went on to sign a separate agreement with China’s Norinco for local assembling and production of 679 VT-4 Tanks under licence by Pakistan’s Heavy Industries Taxila by the brand name ‘Haider’.
“While Pakistan domestically has been promoting the narrative that the new Haider tanks have completely indigenously developed components, foreign media reports have shown that Pakistan is still dependent heavily on Norinco to import the bulk of the tank’s components,” a source said.
It was during the first shipment of one such consignment that Pakistan received altogether faulty hulls with critical dimension variations. It is because of these design discrepancies that the local assembly of the “Haider” tank was put to a halt last year till the arrival of fresh replacement.
Given the delay in response from Norinco, Pakistan has resorted to local modifications of smaller and more manageable faulty components at its end itself, sources said.
This is not the first or the only instance of poor maintenance and supply chain management issues showcased by a Chinese state-owned military contractor.
Sources said that Chinese-made F-22P (Zulfiqar Class) frigates bought by Pakistan Navy and Wing Long 2 (UCAV) are also facing similar poor supply chain management issues at the end of Chinese companies.