Islamic Republic of Pakistan : News, Discussions & Updates
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Pak Economy firing on all the cylinders..
Pakistan's biggest car manufacturers Toyota motors shuts down their manufacturing plant....
After Timatar now Atta @ more than RS 150 too becomes unaffordable for Pakistanis. Bhutto's words of eating Grass will soon come true...
@_Anonymous_ your casus belli might be coming soon.
After the bumper week in Pakistan, PA and its assorted collection of hoods will be itching to respond.
After the bumper week in Pakistan, PA and its assorted collection of hoods will be itching to respond.
International Beggars....
Government begs from IMF, world Bank, and other countries like Saudi Arabia UAE and China, etc.
Military begs for Arms and ammunition from US and China...
And then there are a few Pakistanis running grocery store (@_Anonymous_ your mamu friend ) who produce kids every year in UK and other developed countries to get government grants for kids....
People of Pakistan go to other countries to beg in dollars, Dirham and Riyals...
You mean the TTP shenanigans ? I think you're going to see some ISIS in Khorasan major activity in Afghanistan. Our border would become live only once the snow melts which means next summer , if it's our turn .
Old satire on Dimran, he of the naada dheela fame now doing the rounds once again after the audio sex tapes leaks. Seems to be from the mid 90's . Has aged pretty well.
1:37 - These people are hoping that by selling to the highest bidder they will have goodwill with the US Jewish lobby.Yahood and hanood ki Sazish Hai Yeh...
How can we compete with such immense strategic acumen and insight
Have been watching some YouTube videos of exmuslims like Sahil and Adam seeker, don’t know how it popped up in my recommendation. After watching dozens of videos I realised
> Deradicalistation done by IA or state police is one of the biggest fraud carried on taxpayers money.
> Maulvis and Molanas wield all the power as more than 90% Muslims don’t know Arabic.
> Lack/suppression of knowledge of own religion is mixed with malpractices in other religions to make a complete package of superiority i.e, Zakir Naik’s modus operandi.
Discussion gives a core for understanding basic psychology of Paxtanis and Muslims in general. @_Anonymous_
Depends on where it's carried out . If you're referring to Kashmir , there's been a long standing demand to tackle the JeI there which has been at the roots of the separatist movement there . It's only now that it's been achieved by cutting their funding sources , preventing their employment in government jobs & sacking those who're active there , proscribing their preachings to some extent without a full ban on them thru curbs etc.
It's basically what I refer to as a difference between the Dulat line & the Doval line . Dudat has just given a series of interviews to promote his latest book & has been b*tching about Doval a lot . Connect the dots & read in between the lines . Check out his interview with Karan Thapar . You'd get the drift.
Yes. All muslims learn the Koran by rote . The language is archaic Arabic which is unintelligible to the modern arabic speaker too unless he's been trained in it .
It may come as a surprise to you that even upto the graduate level in Madrassahs they aren't taught the exegesis of the Koran .
In fact their true study of it , in great depth happens only in their equivalent of the masters degree in modern education .
Include suppression of the malpractices of their own in it . Basically Islam itself is for by & of people who believe in conquests & loot. It succeeded upto the 16th century when they controlled vast parts of Asia upto India SE Asia & the habitable parts of Africa where 3 of the premier Empires in the world belonged to them viz the Ottomans , the Safavids & the Mughals.
With the advent of the Europeans who with their emphasis on universal education , a scientific spirit , a will for exploration & risk taking along with the benefits of science & technology out gunned the Muslims in the art of looting & empire building. They haven't recovered since & by the looks of it won't recover this century as well .
(Pakistan is a good example of this . These empires existed for the benefit of a small elite with the rest meant to serve those elites. As long as the scope for conquest & loot existed , Pakistan would've thrived. Since it doesn't , Pakistan bis where it is today . Ditto for Afganistan. )
A good example would be the oil sheikhdoms of the Gulf . They could establish the finest universities there promoted universal education , encouraged science & technology drives by their population yet have they ? And in the next 2-3 decades oil & gas particularly the former wil lose its importance & consequently it's currency in geo poltics.
An anecdote :
An apocryphal story goes that when Hulegu Khan grandson of Chinggis Khan captured Baghdad & had the last Abbasid Caliph presented before him , he asked him to explain in one line the essence of Islam without which Islam wouldn't survive.
The story goes on to say the Caliph replied - it's the will of Allah . In which case I can have your head cut off as Allah wishes it , Hulegu responded .
What about order in the universe - Hulegu asked . The Caliph affirmed - yes it's important . In that case , if a kafir can ensure order over a Muslim in a province whose rule would be superior ? asked Hulegu . The Caliph responded - the Kafir's.
Hulegu thanked him & had him crushed to death rolled in carpets by the hooves of horses since the Mongols believed spilling of royal blood in any land they occupied was inauspicious & a sign of destruction to come.
That's precisely the policy China's following without explicitly stating it to be so .
My point is left to their own devices Muslims would neither be modernised nor would they assimilate . The story of the 54 muslim majority nations is before you , most 90% + Muslims in terms of demographics with their religious minorities living in the same manner as dhimmis were in the bygone days . Yet there's grave strife in their societies.
The only exception to these can be Turkey & Iran with Bangladesh , Egypt & Indonesia as outliers in the mid to long term for which they need a lot of working to at least build a platform from where they can launch themselves .
I've no hope for any other Muslim nation particularly the Arab nations.
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To all those guys in a grumpy mood, log on to Pak Twitter . There's never a dull moment & you'd feel cheerful too.