Only @randomradio can make sense of such developments. Why , you ask ? Coz they're supremely optimistic !
It's just politics. Nothing will happen save for more bullets fired from the Indian side.
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It's just politics. Nothing will happen save for more bullets fired from the Indian side.
‘We will seal Sindh border if we are not provided water’
ISLAMABAD: PPP staged walk out from National Assembly (NA) Wednesday on non-provision of water to Sindh under Indus Water treaty 1991.
Speaking in the house opposition leader Syed Khurshid Shah said Sindh is facing grave water crisis. There is no water in Karachi. A human being can not remain alive without water. Punjab link canal be closed and water be supplied to Sindh. Sindh is becoming barren. Sindh has created Pakistan. Take the rulers out of darkness and bring them in this house. Quorum remains incomplete due to absence of treasury benches.
He held that minister is being slapped today. Respect to vote slogan is not correct. If we are not provided water we will seal Sindh border. We will do so to save Pakistan. We are fighting for the rights of Sindh.
PPP MNA Yousuf Talpur said we should be given water under 1991 Indus water treaty. We are demanding our right. PPP Hyderabad public meeting was a trailer. We want water. Even animals are not getting water in Sindh what to speak of human beings. Therefore, we stage walk out from the house.
Mob razes 'historic' Ahmadi property in Sialkot
A mob running into hundreds on Thursday razed a historic Ahmadi property in Sialkot as a two-way ownership contest remained “sub judice”.
Aamir Mehmood of Jamaat-e-Ahmadiyya told The Express Tribune that a 500-strong mob had razed Ahmadi worship place Baitul Mubarik and a one-time residence of the Jamaat founder.
The issue was sub judice. “Dozens of municipal authority men were part of the mob that razed the structures without any official or court directive,” Mehmood said.
No one, neither area inhabitants or police personnel, tried to stop the mob from razing the structures. “They continued to vandalise the structures till the early hours of Thursday. They returned once again after offering Fajr prayers,” Mehmood said.
India borrowed our economic plans, claims Ahsan Iqbal
ISLAMABAD: Minister for Planning and Development Ahsan Iqbal has said India borrowed Pakistan’s economic and reforms plans and implemented them successfully while “we squandered the opportunity largely because of political instability”.
Speaking at the inauguration of Pakistan National Centre for Cyber Security in Islamabad on Monday, Iqbal, who also holds the portfolio of interior minister, said during the 90s then Indian finance minister Manmohan Singh borrowed economic reforms strategies from his Pakistani counterpart Sartaj Aziz and successfully implemented them in India.
He said Bangladesh also successfully used the same strategies but Pakistan could not put its own plans to use as the decade was lost to political instability.
The planning minister said the first opportunity for Pakistan’s economy to take off came in the 60s, the second in the 90s, and the third opportunity is knocking at the doors now, which must not be lost to instability like in the past.
“We will have to think why many countries which were behind us are now far ahead. China’s per capita income was far below Pakistan’s but is now much higher. Similarly, Bangladesh’s foreign reserves have reached $33 billion while we are at $18 billion. For how long, we will watch other countries overtake us,” the minister wondered.
He said tanks and missiles alone could not save a country “if it’s not strong economically”. He said while the armed forces had rendered great sacrifices, the successful fight against terrorism was possible also because of the availability of funds from the national budget.
“There was a time when terrorists had surrounded us but today the state has cornered them. If we squander this opportunity, the history and future generations will not forgive us,” Ahsan added.
ISLAMABAD: PPP staged walk out from National Assembly (NA) Wednesday on non-provision of water to Sindh under Indus Water treaty 1991.
Speaking in the house opposition leader Syed Khurshid Shah said Sindh is facing grave water crisis. There is no water in Karachi. A human being can not remain alive without water. Punjab link canal be closed and water be supplied to Sindh. Sindh is becoming barren. Sindh has created Pakistan. Take the rulers out of darkness and bring them in this house. Quorum remains incomplete due to absence of treasury benches.
He held that minister is being slapped today. Respect to vote slogan is not correct. If we are not provided water we will seal Sindh border. We will do so to save Pakistan. We are fighting for the rights of Sindh.
PPP MNA Yousuf Talpur said we should be given water under 1991 Indus water treaty. We are demanding our right. PPP Hyderabad public meeting was a trailer. We want water. Even animals are not getting water in Sindh what to speak of human beings. Therefore, we stage walk out from the house.
Mob razes 'historic' Ahmadi property in Sialkot
A mob running into hundreds on Thursday razed a historic Ahmadi property in Sialkot as a two-way ownership contest remained “sub judice”.
Aamir Mehmood of Jamaat-e-Ahmadiyya told The Express Tribune that a 500-strong mob had razed Ahmadi worship place Baitul Mubarik and a one-time residence of the Jamaat founder.
The issue was sub judice. “Dozens of municipal authority men were part of the mob that razed the structures without any official or court directive,” Mehmood said.
No one, neither area inhabitants or police personnel, tried to stop the mob from razing the structures. “They continued to vandalise the structures till the early hours of Thursday. They returned once again after offering Fajr prayers,” Mehmood said.
India borrowed our economic plans, claims Ahsan Iqbal
ISLAMABAD: Minister for Planning and Development Ahsan Iqbal has said India borrowed Pakistan’s economic and reforms plans and implemented them successfully while “we squandered the opportunity largely because of political instability”.
Speaking at the inauguration of Pakistan National Centre for Cyber Security in Islamabad on Monday, Iqbal, who also holds the portfolio of interior minister, said during the 90s then Indian finance minister Manmohan Singh borrowed economic reforms strategies from his Pakistani counterpart Sartaj Aziz and successfully implemented them in India.
He said Bangladesh also successfully used the same strategies but Pakistan could not put its own plans to use as the decade was lost to political instability.
The planning minister said the first opportunity for Pakistan’s economy to take off came in the 60s, the second in the 90s, and the third opportunity is knocking at the doors now, which must not be lost to instability like in the past.
“We will have to think why many countries which were behind us are now far ahead. China’s per capita income was far below Pakistan’s but is now much higher. Similarly, Bangladesh’s foreign reserves have reached $33 billion while we are at $18 billion. For how long, we will watch other countries overtake us,” the minister wondered.
He said tanks and missiles alone could not save a country “if it’s not strong economically”. He said while the armed forces had rendered great sacrifices, the successful fight against terrorism was possible also because of the availability of funds from the national budget.
“There was a time when terrorists had surrounded us but today the state has cornered them. If we squander this opportunity, the history and future generations will not forgive us,” Ahsan added.
Pak media blames 'Indian lobby' after failed Pak-World Bank talks on Kishanganga Hydro-Project
Thursday, May 24, 2018
By: TNN
Source Link: CLICK HERE
Pakistan's complaint to the World Bank about alleged Indian violations of the Indus Waters Treaty (IWT) was frustrated by the South Asian department of the World Bank which is "under the influence of the Indian lobby", said Pakistani media outlet The Express Tribune today.
The country's media today also reported that the World Bank yesterday announced that two days of talks with a Pakistani delegation did not lead to an agreement on the way forward in Pakistan's water dispute with India. The dispute was regarding India commencing the 330-megawatt Kishanganga hydropower station in Jammu and Kashmir. Prime Minister Narendra Modi inaugurated the project on May 19.
"The disagreement serves a serious blow to Pakistan that remains unable to penetrate in the World Bank, which is under heavy influence of the Indian lobby working in Washington," wrote the Tribune. It further said that "over the years, successive governments (have) kept a blind eye over a growing Indian influence in international financial institutions.
Pakistan says India has violated the 1960 IWT with the World Bank with the Kishanganga project. New Delhi believes that IWT allows it to build 'run-of-river' hydel projects that do not change the course of the river and do not deplete the water level downstream. Islamabad argues that the Kishanganga project not only violates the course of the river but also depletes its water level.
The World Bank on Wednesday announced that two days of talks with the Pakistani delegation did not lead to an agreement on the way forward in Pakistan's water dispute with India, reported Dawn.
"Several procedural options for resolving the disagreement over the interpretation of the Treaty's provisions were discussed," the World Bank said.
Yet, it added that the IWT only gives it a "limited and procedural" role in resolving India-Pakistan water disputes, although the bank supervised the negotiations for the treaty and is recognised as an arbitrator by both countries.
India started work on the Kishanganga hydropower station in 2007. Three years later, Pakistan took the matter to the Permanent Court of Arbitration at The Hague, which stayed the project for three years. In 2013, the court ruled that the Kishanganga project was “a run-of-river plant within the parameters of the IWT and that India may accordingly divert water from the Kishanganga (Neelum River) for power generation”.
Pak media blames 'Indian lobby' after failed Pak-World Bank talks on Kishanganga Hydro-Project
Pakistanis should know money speaks.
BAAP bada na bhaiya,. Bhaiya Sabse bada rupaiya....
Thursday, May 24, 2018
By: TNN
Source Link: CLICK HERE
Pakistan's complaint to the World Bank about alleged Indian violations of the Indus Waters Treaty (IWT) was frustrated by the South Asian department of the World Bank which is "under the influence of the Indian lobby", said Pakistani media outlet The Express Tribune today.
The country's media today also reported that the World Bank yesterday announced that two days of talks with a Pakistani delegation did not lead to an agreement on the way forward in Pakistan's water dispute with India. The dispute was regarding India commencing the 330-megawatt Kishanganga hydropower station in Jammu and Kashmir. Prime Minister Narendra Modi inaugurated the project on May 19.
"The disagreement serves a serious blow to Pakistan that remains unable to penetrate in the World Bank, which is under heavy influence of the Indian lobby working in Washington," wrote the Tribune. It further said that "over the years, successive governments (have) kept a blind eye over a growing Indian influence in international financial institutions.
Pakistan says India has violated the 1960 IWT with the World Bank with the Kishanganga project. New Delhi believes that IWT allows it to build 'run-of-river' hydel projects that do not change the course of the river and do not deplete the water level downstream. Islamabad argues that the Kishanganga project not only violates the course of the river but also depletes its water level.
The World Bank on Wednesday announced that two days of talks with the Pakistani delegation did not lead to an agreement on the way forward in Pakistan's water dispute with India, reported Dawn.
"Several procedural options for resolving the disagreement over the interpretation of the Treaty's provisions were discussed," the World Bank said.
Yet, it added that the IWT only gives it a "limited and procedural" role in resolving India-Pakistan water disputes, although the bank supervised the negotiations for the treaty and is recognised as an arbitrator by both countries.
India started work on the Kishanganga hydropower station in 2007. Three years later, Pakistan took the matter to the Permanent Court of Arbitration at The Hague, which stayed the project for three years. In 2013, the court ruled that the Kishanganga project was “a run-of-river plant within the parameters of the IWT and that India may accordingly divert water from the Kishanganga (Neelum River) for power generation”.
Pak media blames 'Indian lobby' after failed Pak-World Bank talks on Kishanganga Hydro-Project
Pakistanis should know money speaks.
BAAP bada na bhaiya,. Bhaiya Sabse bada rupaiya....
Foreign exchange: SBP's reserves plunge another 4.43%, now stand at $10.3b
KARACHI: Foreign exchange reserves held by the State Bank of Pakistan (SBP) again came under severe pressure, falling 4.43% on a weekly basis, according to data released by the central bank on Thursday.
Pakistan’s reserves have plummeted over 43% from a record high of $18.14 billion at the end of June 2016, according to SBP data.
The reserves touched the peak after Pakistan borrowed $6.6 billion from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) under a 36-month Extended Fund Facility that ended in September 2016.
London Court of International Arbitation gives a big blow to Pakistan
ISLAMABAD: The London Court of International Arbitration (LCIA) has given a blow to Pakistan over the IPP case.
LCIA has permanently restrained Pakistan from challenging its rulings regarding payment of Rs14 billion plus interest (Kibor+4.5%) to nine independent power producers (IPPs) in local courts of Pakistan.
The LCIA has also maintained its earlier partial award in favour of nine independent power producers under which the Government of Pakistan was to pay Rs14 billion to IPPs. This means government of Pakistan is left with no option but to pay Rs14 billion with interest of Kibor-4.5 percent.
These nine IPPs generated electricity for state-owned NTDC (National Transmission Dispatch Company) — the sole buyer of electricity. Under the latest scenario, the Government of Pakistan needs to pay Rs235 billion to IPPs.
China gives an economic life line to Pakistan: Report
ISLAMABAD: China has given Pakistan a credit line worth $1.6 billion to stave off a balance of payments crisis, two Pakistani central bank sources said on Thursday, with cash earmarked for boosting fast-depleting foreign currency reserves.
Two State Bank of Pakistan (SBP) sources told Reuters the credit facility that accompanies a currency swap agreement between SBP and China’s central bank has been hiked to 20 billion yuan ($3.13 billion) from 10 billion yuan.
“This arrangement has been finalised,” said one SBP source, who spoke on condition of anonymity. A second source confirmed the agreement and the figures.
KARACHI: Foreign exchange reserves held by the State Bank of Pakistan (SBP) again came under severe pressure, falling 4.43% on a weekly basis, according to data released by the central bank on Thursday.
Pakistan’s reserves have plummeted over 43% from a record high of $18.14 billion at the end of June 2016, according to SBP data.
The reserves touched the peak after Pakistan borrowed $6.6 billion from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) under a 36-month Extended Fund Facility that ended in September 2016.
London Court of International Arbitation gives a big blow to Pakistan
ISLAMABAD: The London Court of International Arbitration (LCIA) has given a blow to Pakistan over the IPP case.
LCIA has permanently restrained Pakistan from challenging its rulings regarding payment of Rs14 billion plus interest (Kibor+4.5%) to nine independent power producers (IPPs) in local courts of Pakistan.
The LCIA has also maintained its earlier partial award in favour of nine independent power producers under which the Government of Pakistan was to pay Rs14 billion to IPPs. This means government of Pakistan is left with no option but to pay Rs14 billion with interest of Kibor-4.5 percent.
These nine IPPs generated electricity for state-owned NTDC (National Transmission Dispatch Company) — the sole buyer of electricity. Under the latest scenario, the Government of Pakistan needs to pay Rs235 billion to IPPs.
China gives an economic life line to Pakistan: Report
ISLAMABAD: China has given Pakistan a credit line worth $1.6 billion to stave off a balance of payments crisis, two Pakistani central bank sources said on Thursday, with cash earmarked for boosting fast-depleting foreign currency reserves.
Two State Bank of Pakistan (SBP) sources told Reuters the credit facility that accompanies a currency swap agreement between SBP and China’s central bank has been hiked to 20 billion yuan ($3.13 billion) from 10 billion yuan.
“This arrangement has been finalised,” said one SBP source, who spoke on condition of anonymity. A second source confirmed the agreement and the figures.
Nawaz Sharif leading anti-Establishment charge,along with his recent comment about Mumbai jihadi attacks
Asad Durrani book to increase Civilian-Military divide
Pashtun movement in FATA(now being merged into KPK without consulting tribal elders)
Altaf Hussain rallying Muhajirs in urban Sindh to form South Sindh province
Balochistan is in perennial crisis
Gilgit has also been boiling for months and things are heating up
Time is coming for final assault in few months.Ground is being prepared before our eyes @vstol Jockey
He just destroyed an Ahmedi mosque and saying that if cases are made against any one of them, he will burn down whole city. A normal day in Pakistan.
Ahmedis(Qadianis) formed a special all-Ahmedi militia called Al-Furqaan to invade PoK and were very vocal in demanding an Islamic Caliphate.Let them reap what they have sown.
Asad Durrani book to increase Civilian-Military divide
Pashtun movement in FATA(now being merged into KPK without consulting tribal elders)
Altaf Hussain rallying Muhajirs in urban Sindh to form South Sindh province
Balochistan is in perennial crisis
Gilgit has also been boiling for months and things are heating up
Time is coming for final assault in few months.Ground is being prepared before our eyes @vstol Jockey
He just destroyed an Ahmedi mosque and saying that if cases are made against any one of them, he will burn down whole city. A normal day in Pakistan.
Ahmedis(Qadianis) formed a special all-Ahmedi militia called Al-Furqaan to invade PoK and were very vocal in demanding an Islamic Caliphate.Let them reap what they have sown.
Ex-ISI boss who co-wrote book with ex-RAW chief to be barred from leaving Pakistan
Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un.
@safriz
Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un.
@safriz
Hey fox girl new account?The irony of being on an Indian oriented forum and posting about Pakistan.
Pakistani salt being sold in Israel with 7000% markup 
Sikh social activist shot dead in Peshawar
A social activist and prominent member of the Sikh community in Peshawar was killed on Tuesday "in what appeared to be a targeted attack," police said.
According to SSP Operations Javed Iqbal Wazir, the incident occurred in the Scheme Chowk area on Kohat Road within the limits of Inquilab police station.
The Sikh activist, Charnjeet Singh, was on his way home from his shop when unidentified men opened fire at him, killing him on the spot. The attackers immediately fled after having committed the heinous crime, police added.
BuzzFeed Called Gulab Jamuns “Indian Doughnuts” & Pakistanis lose it
Have you ever wondered what they call the Gulab Jaman in the West? Tasty, which is the food-related division of Buzzfeed, gave us a peek into how they consider what is probably the most popular sweetmeat in our part of the woods.(I thought Pakistan was a part of the Arab world?
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‘Indian Fried Donuts’ they called it. These angraiz I swear, making everything about themselves with their labels and cultural appropriation.
Do we call the American hot dog as Amreekan Garam Kutta? Sounds weird doesn’t it?
Sikh social activist shot dead in Peshawar
A social activist and prominent member of the Sikh community in Peshawar was killed on Tuesday "in what appeared to be a targeted attack," police said.
According to SSP Operations Javed Iqbal Wazir, the incident occurred in the Scheme Chowk area on Kohat Road within the limits of Inquilab police station.
The Sikh activist, Charnjeet Singh, was on his way home from his shop when unidentified men opened fire at him, killing him on the spot. The attackers immediately fled after having committed the heinous crime, police added.
BuzzFeed Called Gulab Jamuns “Indian Doughnuts” & Pakistanis lose it
Have you ever wondered what they call the Gulab Jaman in the West? Tasty, which is the food-related division of Buzzfeed, gave us a peek into how they consider what is probably the most popular sweetmeat in our part of the woods.(I thought Pakistan was a part of the Arab world?
)‘Indian Fried Donuts’ they called it. These angraiz I swear, making everything about themselves with their labels and cultural appropriation.
Do we call the American hot dog as Amreekan Garam Kutta? Sounds weird doesn’t it?
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IED targeting a bomb disposal unit has martyred 3 security personnel in North Waziristan and injured 2 others. The incident took place in Datta Khel area : Official
The story of Pakistan's 'disappeared' Shias
CCTV images from a local mosque show 30-year-old Naeem Haider being led away in handcuffs by more than a dozen armed men. Some have their faces covered with masks, others are in police uniform.
It was the night of 16 November 2016. Mr Haider has not been seen since. Despite the CCTV video evidence both the police and intelligence services have denied in court that he is in their custody.
Mr Haider is one of 140 Pakistani Shias to have "disappeared" over the past two years, according to community activists. Their families believe they were taken into custody by the intelligence services. Over 25 of the missing, including Mr Haider, belong to Pakistan's largest city Karachi.
Mr Haider's family say he had returned to the port city from pilgrimage in Karbala, Iraq, with his pregnant wife just two days before he was detained.
Uzma Haider has since given birth to a baby boy who has never seen his father.
"My kids are always asking me, 'When will our dad come home?'" she told the BBC. "What answer can I give them? No-one is telling us where he is or how he is. At least tell us what he's accused of."
The families of the other "disappeared" Shia men have similar stories of their loved ones being picked up from their homes at night by the security forces.
A tearful group of women gathered in a house in a working class Shia neighbourhood of Karachi told me they have been given no information from the authorities about where their relatives are being held or what the allegations against them are.
Community leaders though, say they have been told the men are suspected of links to a secretive militia in Syria, the Zainabiyoun Brigade, thought to be made up of around 1,000 Pakistani Shias fighting on behalf of the regime of President Bashar al-Assad.
One young man, who did not want to be identified, told the BBC he had been held in a "small, dark cell" where he was "badly tortured" by the security services, including by electric shocks. He says he was repeatedly interrogated about the Zainabiyoun, with questions focussed on who he knew in the brigade, and where their funding was coming from.
Another is social activist Samar Abbas. He was detained in Islamabad in January 2017 at the same time as a number of bloggers critical of Pakistan's military establishment.
They were released a few weeks later after a public outcry, however, Mr Abbas was held captive until March 2018. His brother-in-law was also detained and is still "missing".
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Zaid 'Lal Topi' Hamid seems to have gone senile
@ZaidZamanHamid
How would you react if I tell you PAF was actually expecting a joint Israeli/Indian/US air strike ? How would you react if you know that the CIA
was planning to assassinate top military & ISI leadership in Pak? Try remaining normal when you know such threats are real & close...
He also claims Pak army has captured area 30 km inside Afghanistan
CCTV images from a local mosque show 30-year-old Naeem Haider being led away in handcuffs by more than a dozen armed men. Some have their faces covered with masks, others are in police uniform.
It was the night of 16 November 2016. Mr Haider has not been seen since. Despite the CCTV video evidence both the police and intelligence services have denied in court that he is in their custody.
Mr Haider is one of 140 Pakistani Shias to have "disappeared" over the past two years, according to community activists. Their families believe they were taken into custody by the intelligence services. Over 25 of the missing, including Mr Haider, belong to Pakistan's largest city Karachi.
Mr Haider's family say he had returned to the port city from pilgrimage in Karbala, Iraq, with his pregnant wife just two days before he was detained.
Uzma Haider has since given birth to a baby boy who has never seen his father.
"My kids are always asking me, 'When will our dad come home?'" she told the BBC. "What answer can I give them? No-one is telling us where he is or how he is. At least tell us what he's accused of."
The families of the other "disappeared" Shia men have similar stories of their loved ones being picked up from their homes at night by the security forces.
A tearful group of women gathered in a house in a working class Shia neighbourhood of Karachi told me they have been given no information from the authorities about where their relatives are being held or what the allegations against them are.
Community leaders though, say they have been told the men are suspected of links to a secretive militia in Syria, the Zainabiyoun Brigade, thought to be made up of around 1,000 Pakistani Shias fighting on behalf of the regime of President Bashar al-Assad.
One young man, who did not want to be identified, told the BBC he had been held in a "small, dark cell" where he was "badly tortured" by the security services, including by electric shocks. He says he was repeatedly interrogated about the Zainabiyoun, with questions focussed on who he knew in the brigade, and where their funding was coming from.
Another is social activist Samar Abbas. He was detained in Islamabad in January 2017 at the same time as a number of bloggers critical of Pakistan's military establishment.
They were released a few weeks later after a public outcry, however, Mr Abbas was held captive until March 2018. His brother-in-law was also detained and is still "missing".
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Zaid 'Lal Topi' Hamid seems to have gone senile
@ZaidZamanHamid
How would you react if I tell you PAF was actually expecting a joint Israeli/Indian/US air strike ? How would you react if you know that the CIA
was planning to assassinate top military & ISI leadership in Pak? Try remaining normal when you know such threats are real & close...
He also claims Pak army has captured area 30 km inside Afghanistan
This is utter nonsense! When Kuldeep Jadhav was abducted from Iran and produced in Pakistan as RAW Spy. India should have taken hold of ISI chief son and labelled him a Terrorist,since he violated the visa rule. Then India should have talked Prisoner exchange.
Why do i get this impression that our Intelligence apparatus is riddled with Sympathisers for Pakistan and Aman ki Tamasha fellows, when daily Indians get shelled across the border?
These Single Malt Lutyens circle,Aman Ki Tamasha are ready to cut deals to ease pressure on Pakistan and bring down PM Modi who was alienating Pakistan.
What the hell does it mean? 'It is our duty' 'after all, he's a colleague" ?
Was Kulbhushan Jadhav and his family availed such courtesies as a colleague? Then why suffer from this fake morality.
I guess too much whiskey sipping in Pakistan Circles does this to you, you start to think, your enemy as your friend, while Your enemy always treats and thinks of you as a Enemy.
I do when i have a holiday, or out fishingYou drink Beer in Afternoon
Why? do you keep Muhurats for drinking in afternoon?
Don't be so sure about it, they would do these attacks to deflect focus and change the narrative. They have their own crowd to please, since Hafeez Saeed now formed a political party.
More appropriate for Gulab Jamun would be "Rosy Indian blackberry" or"Rosy Black Plum"
