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BJP is a right leaning party, not a right wing party, let alone ultra right. You are merely a victim of propaganda.
Well it's upto you how you define ultra right but with the divide Modi is creating with minorities and at the same time promoting hindutva it's pretty right wingish to me. Instead buildimg new bridges he is destroying the old onea.

Btw I don't buy propaganda or else I would have watched and liked Uri the Movie more than Christine Fair did ;)

A right wing party would be the Shiv Sena. Extremist would be VHP (Babri Masjid demolition, Bombay riots, Gujarat riots).
Agreed.

Anyway, this is the second time we had a right leaning party in power in history. So what stopped you from getting peace with India when Congress and other left leaning parties ruled for 62 years?
It takes two to tango.

It's obvious that terrorism and talks cannot go hand in hand.
Does Modi know that or you have double standards for talks with the Taliban. :eek:


This now has bipartisan support. Congress is not going to talk to you either.
The establishment in Pakistan supports Modi, not the Congress despite all the BJP propaganda. Modi is doing what we could not achieve in 71 years. So we are not looking for Congress' support. :)
 
Just FYI it's not IA or Indian armed forces running corporates and real estate businesses. That clearly defines who is more desperate to stay relevant than the other. Also I'm trying to figure how many military takeovers did we witness in India since independence. Look it up, very interesting info for people from across the border. Truth be told, most of us believe our civil servants get more perks and benefits than our military men, it isn't exactly the same for you is it? Our military chiefs don't get chauffeured in BMW or luxury vehicles. How many of your ex military officers end up settling in UK and other western countries? I'm not one for comparing, but I couldn't stop laughing when you said it's IA being desperate for relevance and not PA. The only military that owns a country while having a civil government is PA, just FYI.

Good Day and thanks for the laugh!

I am glad you had a good laugh. It's actually quite healthy you know.
But unfortunately I lost 2 minutes reading and responding to your utterings. Atleast have the decency to respond to the points I raised like the justification for afspa in case there's peace between us without being too sarcastic. Kashmir's struggle is indigenous and you will be thrown out by the locals if you withdraw 7 lakh soldiers. We both know that if given the chance, Kashmiris will not join either of us but opt for independence. Pakistan can live with that but you have a lot to lose.
 
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Wrong in multiple fronts....

1) Name the 2 Indian PMs visited Pakistan in last 2 decades....
2) When was the last time a Pakistsni PM visited India?
3) In our 72 years of conflict the so called RWs were in power less than 13 years.

So you have your answer...




For every Indian govt the first priority is safety and prosperity of the citizens..... So for all of them Terrrorism is an important issue on safety and any peace without that is even unthinkable.......


Peace was prevailed then.... But LeT is thriving in Pakistan.... The reason is explained well by Christian fair in the video....TTp support..... Lol....They were created by ISI... and and they turned against their masters.... Ilyas Kashmiri was personally awarded by mushy for brining a head of Indian Soldier.... Rest is history.....Masood Azhar is running a big madrassa in Pakistan.... What kind of education he is expert in whole world knows.... How he landed in Pakistan??? The day he turn against his own masters... India will be blamed....

Read more about IA.....you will know... They are 100% under union govt.... Not the other way around.... If they were like PA, the conflict would have been in different stage....



You seems to have not understood Kashmir conflict......Your govt have understood it well.... It will never get resolved. ... Kashmir is not a issue for most of the population.....most of them wont even know that there is a serious conflict......So Indian existence is not based on it.... Hope you understood the logic

Lets agree to disagree Sir. A response by me will result in a serious and lengthy flame war we both don't want. Nor do we have time to go into the depths of political and military dynamics from both sides to prove eachother wrong.
 
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Well it's upto you how you define ultra right but with the divide Modi is creating with minorities and at the same time promoting hindutva it's pretty right wingish to me. Instead buildimg new bridges he is destroying the old onea.

He did the exact opposite with the dilution of the SC/ST Act.

Hindutva appears to be right wingish because the extremists are making more noise about it.

With the removal of Triple Talaq, he's done more for the Muslim community than the Congress has.

It takes two to tango.

You're gonna have to take the lead though. No such thing as a tango when one has a knife on the other's side.

Does Modi know that or you have double standards for talks with the Taliban. :eek:

Our policy is we will do whatever the Afghan govt wants. If the Afghans want us to talk to the Taliban, we will do it. But terrorism against us is coming from Pakistan, not the Taliban. So it's not the same situation.

The fact is if Taliban wants to become mainstream and join the democratic process, then it will be fine.

The establishment in Pakistan supports Modi, not the Congress despite all the BJP propaganda. Modi is doing what we could not achieve in 71 years. So we are not looking for Congress' support. :)

Actually, the establishment in Pakistan is hellbent on the Congress coming back to power.
 
Peace with India is impossible Sir, not with an ultra right govt sitting in Delhi.
Frankly that is not a valid point both Modi & Vajpayee reached out to Pakistan but the end result was same. Right from Nehru to Vajpayee they have always been open to peace dialog. Even Modi reached out to Nawaz Sharif and your pindi boys played their usual tricks.
Fact is no civilian govt in Pakistan can ever be seen having friendly ties or reach out to India, it would be plain suicide.
 
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I am glad you had a good laugh. It's actually quite healthy you know.
But unfortunately I lost 2 minutes reading and responding to your utterings. Atleast have the decency to respond to the points I raised like the justification for afspa in case there's peace between us without being too sarcastic. Kashmir's struggle is indigenous and you will be thrown out by the locals if you withdraw 7 lakh soldiers. We both know that if given the chance, Kashmiris will not join either of us but opt for independence. Pakistan can live with that but you have a lot to lose.

Yes I'm in agreement that if given a chance Kashmiris will prefer independence over joining either countries. But the reality is the same on both sides of Kashmir, why was Pok not granted independence? You asked me to show decency to respond to the points you raised, while one of it was regarding India supporting TTP and the likes. Can I ask, what ISI/PA is doing with LET and Hafiz Saeed? They are globally regarded as terrorists, yet share diaz with ministers and military officials in public. Who teamed up with US and SA to build up Taliban? Why do Pakistani citizens go through the most thorough screening while applying for Visa or Immigration? How often do you have Indians infiltrating into Pakistan? How is it possible for armed militants to infiltrate into Indian side without PA assistance? You know the answers yourself.

I'm all for peace, but it will never happen as long as your military runs the country. As clearly visible, a civil government is not in their interest and there will never be normalcy in the relationships between two countries. Besides is there any public records about the profits out of business run by military? Any official figures about value of assets, revenues? That's exactly why the miltary will maintain control over Pakistan. Kashmiris will realise the stupidity in playing to the tunes of ISI and Hurriyat one day, and return to mainstream. Regardless of what one says, several Kashmiris study/work in different parts of India, it is the way of their life. An independent Kashmir is nothing but an open invitation for China and Pakistan to invade.

Good Day!
 
@randomradio there is no longer any urgency in Delhi. This is not just BJP but the Congress too. Under UPA 2, MMS wanted to proceed, but was advised against it. The rationale now is, with a growing economy the military will get increasingly stronger over the next decade. With this, the objective is to not offer Pakistan an olive, but to expect peace at our terms. And this means, opening up of the trade corridor with Afghanistan and withdrawal of support for the jihadi terrorists in Kashmir.

The death by a thousand cuts strategy has now been reversed on to them. We keep them on boil, while controlling Kashmir. Increase their costs across Pakistan. The total estimated dead in all wars with India is estimated at 22,000 odd approximately. The total number of PA deaths over the past 18 years, far exceeds this. If there is no change in Pakistani policy towards us, we need to ensure it becomes untenable for them to stabilise and prosper. If carrot does not work, the stick is mandatory.
 
In response to Indian army killing pious biradars in Kashmir — ISPR production bravely releases new video of imaginary Indian soldiers imaginary guilt. Take that India!!!



I imagine the person enacting the soldier's role is from the PA. In order to emote the way he did, he may have been shown videos of the PA surrendering to the IA & the MB in Dhaka. The rest of the story is a flawless Oscar worthy performance.
 
Ok guys. Just as when things get too hot for comfort in Pakistan, the PA decides to have fun across the border, time to forget the fracas happening in Bongo by viewing and sharing this video.


P. S - don't forget to go thru the comments. While most of them are in bad taste, a few are truly funny & instructive.

@RATHORE
 
They should have at least imported an Indian actor. This was quite cringy.

My friends and I used to make higher quality videos than this for projects in high school. Holy shit loooool, the video is sooo terrible, plus the script & narration is f*ckin hilarious :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

"WHAT HAVE YOU DONNNEEEEE?" - Someone should ask the director of the video that.
 
There's no need to retaliate mate. Just ignore them and report the trolling, flaimbaits, insults and off topic posts and leave the rest to the mods.
We are only here to contribute to healthy debates in order to help them understand the dynamics of Pakistan.
Vegetarian :D
Business Today: Pakistan to earn millions by exporting donkeys to China


The news report erroneously mentions that Pakistan has the third largest population of donkeys in the world, whereas it's no 1.

You ought to thank your lucky stars you quit Pakistan @safriz
In other news India is the world's second largest beef exporter. Exporting "Mata's" meat?
 
In other news India is the world's second largest beef exporter. Exporting "Mata's" meat?
Actually, it's the largest exporter of beef including carabeef in the world. Besides not all Dharmics consider cow to be " mata" Including yours truly. A true gourmand here. Fancy veal, venison, mutton, lamb & especially 🐷 but not donkeys, dogs, cats, reptiles, etc.

Now, to get back to donkeys and their meat in Pakistan.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1394320/1-donkey-meat-lahore-hides-karachi/

I'm sure it's makroo.

But this isn't.

China’s cruel canine carnival (WARNING GRAPHIC CONTENT) - Daily Pakistan Global

I wonder how will iron brother be accomodated when they come in full force in the land of the pure.
 
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Actually, it's the largest exporter of beef including carabeef in the world. Besides not all Dharmics consider cow to be " mata" Including yours truly. A true gourmand here. Fancy veal, venison, mutton, lamb & especially 🐷 but not donkeys, dogs, cats, reptiles, etc.

Now, to get back to donkeys and their meat in Pakistan.

Donkey meat in Lahore, hides in Karachi | The Express Tribune

I'm sure it's makroo.

But this isn't.

China’s cruel canine carnival (WARNING GRAPHIC CONTENT) - Daily Pakistan Global

I wonder how will iron brother be accomodated when they come in full force in the land of the pure.
Going by your shameless logic, its fine for us too.
Same as cow is forbidden for you but you export its meat.
Donkey is forbidden for us but we export it.
Same same.