Jammu & Kashmir live updates: GOI remove all provisions of Article 370

Don't you think it specifically points towards erstwhile J&K Police Force? CAPF comes directly under home ministry. I don't think they will talk about general disciplinary laxity in this context. It clearly meant that some section of JK police can revolt against the order and they had prepared for this eventuality by sending CAPF.


You maybe right. But then, that would not need Home Minister of India to plan. JKP is under Unified Command, which is under Army at the end of the day. I am very sure you can draw your conclusions on what that means.

And it may notbe J&K specific.
 
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What kind of actions are we looking at posibly?

It is Pakistan we are talking of, think of a stupidity and put it as a possibility. More the stupidity, higher the probability. Had put 03 options, I think they will escalate in two ways:

a. Increase LC incidents
b. Push in regulars as also Talibs from Afghanistan to introduce 'combat experience' into Kashmir. Cadres returning from Syria/Iraq may also be pressed in.

This, along with integrating Gilgit Baltistan into Pakistan with OIC support is a high probability. China is not in equation anymore but it shall naturally seek to support Pakistan in this for CPEC reasons while advocating diplomacy.
 
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Knowing and surity of action are separate. What options do they have?
Strategically three things can be done by Pakistan:

1> LOC/IB escalation: It can increase its conventional activity vis-a-vis IA. But given the phatta, IA has been giving for the last two years especially, the 10Corp commander is shuddering in the boots. So that might be an unlikely scenario unless they want to deplete their war reserves.

2>Assymetric Movement: Pakistan can embolden the asymmetric assets it controls directly, like the LeT and its early prototype Al Badr, both will lead to direct financial imprint, FATF implication will lead to further downgrades by WB/IMF which will have disastrous consequences.

3>Jamaat coalition: Follow the Harkat ul Mujahideen model of an afghan Taliban force being re-purposed to fight in Kashmir through untraceable Dar ul uloom haqqania (Dera khattak) type saudi/emarati funding. Unfortunately for Pakistan, this umbrella organization of DUH will prioritize dibbs for haqqani and Hizb e Islami factions of taliban before it leeches anything to HuM/JeM type punjabi force. But this remains the long term semi-Fatf free option as long as ISI can assert it's dominance over the dera khattak funding corridor. This will piss off the Americans as this will also create considerable blowback in Afghanistan.

Tactically two options for Pakistan:

1> Provide money to dissidents in kashmir through hawala, the most effective mechanism to get Kashmiris to protest. Just for example, 500 rupee per pelter, 40 pelters to come into action across say 10 districts three times a month. That's less than an $800, with a cut for NC and PDP lets say its twice that $1600, that is less than the price of G3. A good half a million dollars, investment and there will be ample stone-pelters for Pakistan to utilize.

2> Increased Sniper activity along the LC and maybe even within the valley. Snipers were used very effective in Sarajevo so much so the main street there was dubbed sniper alley. Great amount of harassment to regular forces can be done by such activities. It will have consequences, if Pakistan wants Carl gustavs pointed at every post.
 
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It is Pakistan we are talking of, think of a stupidity and put it as a possibility. More the stupidity, higher the probability. Had put 03 options, I think they will escalate in two ways:

a. Increase LC incidents
b. Push in regulars as also Talibs from Afghanistan to introduce 'combat experience' into Kashmir. Cadres returning from Syria/Iraq may also be pressed in.

This, along with integrating Gilgit Baltistan into Pakistan with OIC support is a high probability. China is not in equation anymore but it shall naturally seek to support Pakistan in this for CPEC reasons while advocating diplomacy.

Lets assume they integrated GB fully into Pakistan, wont that put India in same fix as they are in? How would and should India react in that?

Just few hours back Amit Shah has declared to be ready to die for PoK.

I know the real objective and claimed objective are different, but my question is more of optics.

If I would be Pakistan, I would have done the same if all other options were not plausible.

@Milspec
 
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I don't lie.most of our people want war because they believe that india will transfer all Muslims from valley to somewhere else.i know it's not easy to transfer someone.i have no idea what India has planned.some of us here knows about afghan situation and our own situation like no money to fight war.we have seen blasts,we have seen dead bodies,we have seen everything so some of us don't want war and mind says that against larger force,no chance so I think we should avoid war.we can convey our message to India that we want peaceful solution to every problem.right now,military and political leadership aren't on same page.i must credit India for doing all the important homework before deciding abrogation.we totally failed on diplomatic front because of Indian diplomatic work.indians are very good in diplomacy.
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Lets assume they integrated GB fully into Pakistan, wont that put India in same fix as they are in? How would and should India react in that?

Just few hours back Amit Shah has declared to be ready to die for PoK.

I know the real objective and claimed objective are different, but my question is more of optics.

If I would be Pakistan, I would have done the same if all other options were not plausible.

@Milspec
GB I thought was already integrated into Pakistan? That limited autonomy bill is a complete sham. It won't really, as the ground reality stand both forces are staring each other down, Both can claim whatever they want to claim in their own constitution. If there is an invasion and one side can occupy the other, it's not going to make any considerations to paperwork.
 
Oh look somebody in UK is petitioning to free Kashmir from India. You know what lets all join this, it might force the UK govt. to take an official stand. Whatever may the stand be this is a diplomatic quicksand to get into. Anarchist aren't I ?:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

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let's also remember they could have been even more rich and more powerful if they had openly allied with Pakistan. Assume they had been exiled, they'd have been kept as kings in islamabad- a former CM/ daughter of Abdulla asking kashmiris to fight India- a propoganda coup of enormous proportions. They knew that would have been bad for the Kashmiris. That shows they are not degenerate as several people claim.
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