Jammu & Kashmir live updates: GOI remove all provisions of Article 370

GB I thought was already integrated into Pakistan? That limited autonomy bill is a complete sham. It won't really, as the ground reality stand both forces are staring each other down, Both can claim whatever they want to claim in their own constitution. If there is an invasion and one side can occupy the other, it's not going to make any considerations to paperwork.

What you thought would be an Indian reaction? Opposition will create a whole scene and seek action from GoI considering our stance on PoK.

IMO, India would be in a bigger fix as we have legal instrument of accession, Pak stand is just moral (sham).
 
They are my views.i have no idea about my mental condition.why I lie here? Yes I was sad after your decision but you will decide how to treat kashmiri people and not us.it is your job sir.i was very sad because I am also facing problems( I mean domestic problems). I don't believe in false bravado.against 8lakh indian soldiers,we can't fight a war.it is useless.

There is a fundamental approach in how you Pakistanis think about treating each other is by "exploiting" the weak. The Muslims exploit the Hindus and force them to convert, rape and force-marry their girls. The Sunni hate and kill the Shias. The Ahmadi's are not treated as Muslims. Kids from poor families are used as Terrorists and sent across the border. Women are used as commodities for use by men. Exploit the resources of Balochistan and PoJK by the Punjabis and the Chinese. Just with four ethnicities, you discriminate with each other. The bottom line is "exploitation" in order to accrue Power and Corruption to loot the treasury.

And so you think that "we" and not "you" can decide on how to treat Kashmiris. It is not so. No one in India decides how someone else needs to be treated. It is just one-on-one for us 1.3billion people.

You will find it hard to understand such liberal concept of thinking and living. It is called "Vasudeva Kutumbakam"
 
What you thought would be an Indian reaction? Opposition will create a whole scene and seek action from GoI considering our stance on PoK.

IMO, India would be in a bigger fix as we have legal instrument of accession, Pak stand is just moral (sham).
There is a parliament resolution passed "unanimously" in the early 90's affirming PoK as Indian territory. Hence, it becomes incumbent on any and every GoI to seek reunion. That practically all the past governments didn't seriously consider it , is well known. Let's see how serious the present GoI is on this matter.
 
There is a parliament resolution passed "unanimously" in the early 90's affirming PoK as Indian territory. Hence, it becomes incumbent on any and every GoI to seek reunion. That practically all the past governments didn't seriously consider it , is well known. Let's see how serious the present GoI is on this matter.

That is the exact reason India would be in a fix if Pak integrate PoK fully. What would be Indian response? War?
 
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What you thought would be an Indian reaction? Opposition will create a whole scene and seek action from GoI considering our stance on PoK.

IMO, India would be in a bigger fix as we have legal instrument of accession, Pak stand is just moral (sham).
India will just ignore it. Pakistan's issuance of status has no meaning for us.

There is a distinct difference, India officially claims the entire state of J&K, without any heed to any plebiscite or anything, Pakistan officially claims disputed territory and will of people. For us, the amalgamation of the erstwhile state of J&K is irrevocable and final (to borrow from the congress new release). This includes PoJ&K (that is what Pakistan terms as azad kashmir and Gil -balti, and areas acceded to China, as well as Aksai chin held in Chinese occupation).
 
That is the exact reason India would be in a fix if Pak integrate PoK fully. What would be Indian response? War?
As of now they'd issue a strong protest. But, I think there are reasons to believe the Northern Areas won't be amenable to such an integration. From the little we see & hear, there's comparative restiveness there due to the CPEC & other factors which in turn means PA would have to be deoloyed there. Given the way they're stretched, I'm not sure the PA would be enthusiastic about it.

Then again @Falcon has pointed out they have few easy choices these days in many a matter.
 
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This is why those f*cking savages deserve absolutely no sympathy or humanity. Is anybody still high on that Gandhigiri Ch*tiyapa/Vasudev Kutumbakam Kool Aid? Is there anything else left that they still need to see/hear from these animals?

Aur karo candle march in haraamzaado ke liye, aur do kutto ko medical visa.

Well, all I would say is not to become like them. They have just become a toxic cesspit, give it a few months and see them turn on each other.
 
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Well, all I would say is not to become like them. They have just become a toxic cesspit, give it a few months and see them turn on each other.

Their country is only truly becoming a full cesspit now; their minds have always been like this, even when they as a country were doing better than India (economically), and pretended to be classy, liberal and sophisticated making Indian Track 2 type liberals swoon and talk about shared culture and other bullshit.

They can be shown no decency, no compassion, and given no quarter. I hope to see the KPK-FATA region return to Afghanistan, an independent Balochistan & Sindh, a recaptured PoJK, and most importantly an empty post-apocalyptic wasteland in place of West Punjab in my lifetime.
 
They could not push 100,000 jihadis even when there was hardly any fencing in 80s,90s and India was weaker economically,and Pak had support of major powers. How will they push now with a much stronger,multi-layered network around LoC?

If they try to push 100,000 terrorists into India, all our soldiers posted at the Loc will become expert marksmen.
 
I saw IK Live
IK bantered about Racist BJP Hindus and then gave nuclear blackmail and at last said that they would raise it in UN

Thanks for summarizing the 1 hr 45 minute speech :)

That is the difference between a Jahil PM of a neighboring country and an intelligent Indian poster :p
 
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See one thing is clear.there are emotions attached because you can see these kashmiri guys asking pakistan to help or raising flags.it makes us feel bad for them but I know India will not kill youth.i have no idea about indian plans but this emotion thing is true.it is not because we want your land,it is just a feeling of how they will survive,how they react.you can make fun of me but this feeling is present in every pakistani.


India's plan is simple. By providing Kashmir high level of autonomy, India lost all its cards when it comes to negotiating with Huriyat and other seperatorists.

If you already gave autonomy what exactly are you going to negotiate with Huriyat apart from total Independence? This move will give India more breathing room for any sort of negotiation with seperatorist fractions. Now, the goverment's position will be if there is peace, we will give state status with autonomy.
 
India's plan is simple. By providing Kashmir high level of autonomy, India lost all its cards when it comes to negotiating with Huriyat and other seperatorists.

If you already gave autonomy what exactly are you going to negotiate with Huriyat apart from total Independence? This move will give India more breathing room for any sort of negotiation with seperatorist fractions. Now, the goverment's position will be if there is peace, we will give state status with autonomy.
No negotiations it will be just a war of attrition. Valley will soon become a cesspit and smart ppl will leave the area. In 5 years economy surrounding the valley will grow leaving them behind. I believe separatists will be left to their own devices and developmental work will be taken in rest of the areas.
 
No negotiations it will be just a war of attrition. Valley will soon become a cesspit and smart ppl will leave the area. In 5 years economy surrounding the valley will grow leaving them behind. I believe separatists will be left to their own devices and developmental work will be taken in rest of the areas.


Perhaps, perhaps not. But the truth is, untill today, we didn't had any sound negotiation position with respect to separatists. We already gave autonomy, we don't have anything more to negotiate with. Thats the same reason why Huriyat shut its door when union minister of NDA visited them in 2016 for talks. Now, seperatorists will watch valley becoming irrelevant in Jammu and Kashmir UT and Jammu taking the center stage. I think Huriyat will come back to the government asking for state status and autonomy.
 
Their country is only truly becoming a full cesspit now; their minds have always been like this, even when they as a country were doing better than India (economically), and pretended to be classy, liberal and sophisticated making Indian Track 2 type liberals swoon and talk about shared culture and other bullshit.

They can be shown no decency, no compassion, and given no quarter. I hope to see the KPK-FATA region return to Afghanistan, an independent Balochistan & Sindh, a recaptured PoJK, and most importantly an empty post-apocalyptic wasteland in place of West Punjab in my lifetime.

Pakistanis have been bluffing about atami-taqaat since the last 20 years. Some Liberandus on our side fell for it. Actually, the deep state of India always knew the truth but the political establishment used this to excuse any hard steps towards Pakiland. This was because entire Congress and left establishment is compromised with several leaders on ISI/Chinese/US payrolls.

Pakistani Army is a businessman army. They have factories, commercial offices and sheet. Army is run by money hungry generals. The generals can only run their business and swim in their wealth if they have the zaahil awam of Pakistan to fund them. Any nuclear exchange will ensure that Pakistan is wiped off the global map. Therefore, Pakistani army will never take this option no matter how many foreign based c*nts on pee-df bark.

We should use this opportune moment to take back Gilgit Baltistan and connect India to Wakhan corridor. If not this year, then next.
 
Manpads - That's as good as using a Nuke, especially if it hits the wrong target, god forbid an airliner. Pakistanis would have no where to hide

Worst they can do is Kargil like action,
Or go for fake bombing like 27th,
But these 2 would mean disproportionate action by Indians, which I doubt Pakistanis are prepared for.

So, my guess would be to do few Pulwamas, build pressure through their stooges in Congress I and Commies.