Kashmir : Counter Terror Operation Updates and Discussions

[Sathya]

Ajit Duval arranged similar terrorism in Pakistan Balochostan. Getting Punjabi labourers killed by Baloch militants.
Karma is a bich.

Whoever is doing this, inside or outside will be paid back manifold. We ll have just wait for it.

India is not short of ideas to respond.

I believe we are just tracing more terror network, their route, supporters. Etc.

This identification and neutralizing them inside is more important than bombing Pakistan which of course would follow later.. At a time and place of our choosing.

Like some military men in US said, taliban s days in Afghanistan is numbered.

And backlash will be chaos that Pakistan won't be able to handle.

 

[safriz]

Whoever is doing this, inside or outside will be paid back manifold. We ll have just wait for it.

India is not short of ideas to respond.

I believe we are just tracing more terror network, their route, supporters. Etc.

This identification and neutralizing them inside is more important than bombing Pakistan which of course would follow later.. At a time and place of our choosing.

Like some military men in US said, taliban s days in Afghanistan is numbered.

And backlash will be chaos that Pakistan won't be able to handle.

OK nostradamus.

 

[randomradio]

Ajit Duval arranged similar terrorism in Pakistan Balochostan. Getting Punjabi labourers killed by Baloch militants.
Karma is a bich.

We wish he did, but he hasn't. It was merely a threat.

India wants to present a clean image to the world so that Pakistan is dealt with appropriately by the international community, like the FATF greylisting. It wouldn't help if we are also funding proxies.

Anyway, any support we provide will be when the situation has gone down to the point where we have decided to invade Pakistan and wipe it off the map, like we did with Mukti Bahini and BD. You can expect us to fund Balochis and Sindhis at that time. Regardless, if we do end up funding the Balochis, it's going to be massive, and you will clearly be able to tell when it happens.

 

[AbRaj]

We wish he did, but he hasn't. It was merely a threat.

India wants to present a clean image to the world so that Pakistan is dealt with appropriately by the international community, like the FATF greylisting. It wouldn't help if we are also funding proxies.

Anyway, any support we provide will be when the situation has gone down to the point where we have decided to invade Pakistan and wipe it off the map, like we did with Mukti Bahini and BD. You can expect us to fund Balochis and Sindhis at that time. Regardless, if we do end up funding the Balochis, it's going to be massive, and you will clearly be able to tell when it happens.

Funding Baloch rebels alone won’t help us mainly due to their small number and already apartheid status in pakee society. No body gives a damn if army kills few dozens of them here and there every few months just to keep them terrorised. If it will come to that, we have to fund massively and fund all those groups that want to take their own pound of flesh from this unholy monstrosity.

 

[Chain Smoker]

Ajit Duval arranged similar terrorism in Pakistan Balochostan. Getting Punjabi labourers killed by Baloch militants.
Karma is a bich.

And Balochistan will now burn even more.

 

[safriz]

We wish he did, but he hasn't. It was merely a threat.

India wants to present a clean image to the world so that Pakistan is dealt with appropriately by the international community, like the FATF greylisting. It wouldn't help if we are also funding proxies.

Anyway, any support we provide will be when the situation has gone down to the point where we have decided to invade Pakistan and wipe it off the map, like we did with Mukti Bahini and BD. You can expect us to fund Balochis and Sindhis at that time. Regardless, if we do end up funding the Balochis, it's going to be massive, and you will clearly be able to tell when it happens.

And there's your answer. All Indians including you dream of "wiping out Pakistan " and will do anything to achieve that.
We have all seen Shiv sena oath ceremonies in which they wow to divide Pakistan in 50 pieces then go to twitter posing as Baloch wanting to separate from Pakistan.
About Bangladesh, that was 50 years ago and 1000 miles away.
Pakistan in its current status in nowhere near in that situation and Bangladesh trick wont work.
While Bengalis still call themselves "ethnic hindu" with Muslim faith, no ethnicity in Pakistan trusts India, or relates themselves to India, not even those who migrated to Pakistan from India.
So there's no "soft power" for India in Pakistan to be exploited.

No wonder India has to use Iran and Afghanistan to support terrorism in Pakistan, as these two countries do have "soft power" in Pakistan and peoples affiliation. Oran on Shia religious grounds, and Afghanistan on Pushtoon ethnic grounds.
So pulling off another Bangladesh will be impossible, better try something else.
Pakistan has no intention of "breaking apart" India and only has interest in Kashmir liberation. That's something Pakistan has supported and will continue to support, no matter what.

 

[AbRaj]

And there's your answer. All Indians including you dream of "wiping out Pakistan " and will do anything to achieve that.
We have all seen Shiv sena oath ceremonies in which they wow to divide Pakistan in 50 pieces then go to twitter posing as Baloch wanting to separate from Pakistan.
About Bangladesh, that was 50 years ago and 1000 miles away.
Pakistan in its current status in nowhere near in that situation and Bangladesh trick wont work.
While Bengalis still call themselves "ethnic hindu" with Muslim faith, no ethnicity in Pakistan trusts India, or relates themselves to India, not even those who migrated to Pakistan from India.
So there's no "soft power" for India in Pakistan to be exploited.

No wonder India has to use Iran and Afghanistan to support terrorism in Pakistan, as these two countries do have "soft power" in Pakistan and peoples affiliation. Oran on Shia religious grounds, and Afghanistan on Pushtoon ethnic grounds.
So pulling off another Bangladesh will be impossible, better try something else.
Pakistan has no intention of "breaking apart" India and only has interest in Kashmir liberation. That's something Pakistan has supported and will continue to support, no matter what.

Lol, Ethnic Hindu ? What is that ?
It’s like those awkward words like Hindutadi,Hindu-badi, Hindu-t-vadi etc. quite funny actually.
PS: Most propagandist fail to pronounce correct Sanskrit words because they apply Arabic/English syntax to Sanskrit words which renders them meaningless and funny sounding.

 

[randomradio]

Funding Baloch rebels alone won’t help us mainly due to their small number and already apartheid status in pakee society. No body gives a damn if army kills few dozens of them here and there every few months just to keep them terrorised. If it will come to that, we have to fund massively and fund all those groups that want to take their own pound of flesh from this unholy monstrosity.

Their low status is what makes them dangerous. Plus they are in significant strength, at least around 10 million in total spread across three countries. And it's not like they are going to be alone, since there are other tribes in Iran that are willing to see a free Balochistan. The Iranians also want a weak buffer state as a neighbour instead of Pakistan.

Raising a proxy army is not expensive either. A few thousand crores is all that's needed to raise one. Provide 2000Cr each to the Balochis, TTP and Sindhis and they will do the rest on their own.

 

[safriz]

Their low status is what makes them dangerous. Plus they are in significant strength, at least around 10 million in total spread across three countries. And it's not like they are going to be alone, since there are other tribes in Iran that are willing to see a free Balochistan. The Iranians also want a weak buffer state as a neighbour instead of Pakistan.

Raising a proxy army is not expensive either. A few thousand crores is all that's needed to raise one. Provide 2000Cr each to the Balochis, TTP and Sindhis and they will do the rest on their own.

And with such nefarious plans against Pakistan in ordinary Hindu minds and more so among those in power, you expect Pakistan to do nothing against India?
Not gonna happen.

 

[AbRaj]

Their low status is what makes them dangerous. Plus they are in significant strength, at least around 10 million in total spread across three countries. And it's not like they are going to be alone, since there are other tribes in Iran that are willing to see a free Balochistan. The Iranians also want a weak buffer state as a neighbour instead of Pakistan.

Raising a proxy army is not expensive either. A few thousand crores is all that's needed to raise one. Provide 2000Cr each to the Balochis, TTP and Sindhis and they will do the rest on their own.

Any meaningful proxy army will need massive funding otherwise they will be just an irritant to well oiled and funded and oversized PA. They have a chokehold on the population and can survive insignificant losses even if it will happen at frequent intervals.

And with such nefarious plans against Pakistan in ordinary Hindu minds and more so among those in power, you expect Pakistan to do nothing against India?
Not gonna happen.

“Hindu mind” is ebil. Bery bery ebil

 

[randomradio]

And there's your answer. All Indians including you dream of "wiping out Pakistan " and will do anything to achieve that.
We have all seen Shiv sena oath ceremonies in which they wow to divide Pakistan in 50 pieces then go to twitter posing as Baloch wanting to separate from Pakistan.
About Bangladesh, that was 50 years ago and 1000 miles away.
Pakistan in its current status in nowhere near in that situation and Bangladesh trick wont work.
While Bengalis still call themselves "ethnic hindu" with Muslim faith, no ethnicity in Pakistan trusts India, or relates themselves to India, not even those who migrated to Pakistan from India.
So there's no "soft power" for India in Pakistan to be exploited.

No wonder India has to use Iran and Afghanistan to support terrorism in Pakistan, as these two countries do have "soft power" in Pakistan and peoples affiliation. Oran on Shia religious grounds, and Afghanistan on Pushtoon ethnic grounds.
So pulling off another Bangladesh will be impossible, better try something else.
Pakistan has no intention of "breaking apart" India and only has interest in Kashmir liberation. That's something Pakistan has supported and will continue to support, no matter what.

Everything pulled out of ISI's playbook, word for word. No amount of yarn-spinning and story-weaving is going to change reality though.

And you've got something wrong there, India has no interest in gaining "trust" from any ethnicity in Pakistan. All we need to do is help some of them fulfill their own wish for self-determination. You do realise that Mukti Bahini was created using disgruntled Pak Army soldiers, right? And you also forget that Sindhudesh is mentioned in the Mahabharata, and that's the name the separatists have decided to go with.

Literally the only reason why Pak survives today is because it's doing a really good job of going down by itself.

 

[safriz]

Everything pulled out of ISI's playbook, word for word. No amount of yarn-spinning and story-weaving is going to change reality though.

And you've got something wrong there, India has no interest in gaining "trust" from any ethnicity in Pakistan. All we need to do is help some of them fulfill their own wish for self-determination. You do realise that Mukti Bahini was created using disgruntled Pak Army soldiers, right? And you also forget that Sindhudesh is mentioned in the Mahabharata, and that's the name the separatists have decided to go with.

Literally the only reason why Pak survives today is because it's doing a really good job of going down by itself.

Baloch and Pushtoons were given the right of referendum, and they voted to join Pakistan.
It's historical fact .
Kashmiris were never given that right. They were forcefully absorbed In India , because some Raja said so.
There's the difference between indian rubbish stance and Pakistans rightful position about Kashmir.

 

[randomradio]

And with such nefarious plans against Pakistan in ordinary Hindu minds and more so among those in power, you expect Pakistan to do nothing against India?
Not gonna happen.

What can be planned? You have tried everything in recorded history and even more and still failed. Even a South Indian terrorist organisation was created and it failed wonderfully. The only thing left for Pakistan to try now is a nuclear war.

 

[randomradio]

Any meaningful proxy army will need massive funding otherwise they will be just an irritant to well oiled and funded and oversized PA. They have a chokehold on the population and can survive insignificant losses even if it will happen at frequent intervals.

Learning from Pakistan's experience, any insurgency will fail when up against a state. It only ends up as an irritant and a drain on resources. It's actually why we have no real interest in directly supporting an insurgency in Pakistan. But if we are to start a war, then we need to fund all the insurgencies possible, and on a large scale, which would involve the standing up of large armies. Their job would be to distract the PA reserves, border troops and logistics while we mop up the main forces, no different from what we did in BD in 71.

 

[safriz]

What can be planned? You have tried everything in recorded history and even more and still failed. Even a South Indian terrorist organisation was created and it failed wonderfully. The only thing left for Pakistan to try now is a nuclear war.

No
We have scaled down quite significantly.
Khalistan hasn't been supported since mid 90s.
No proper training given to Kashmiri fighters since 1999 when General Musharraf decided to close all training on Pakistani soil.
Before that plenty of Kashmiri fighters were trained on Pakistan army firing ranges
The skinny jeans wearing, pistol welding sissy boys your army fights these days in Kashmir are nothing compared what they were in the 80s.
Ask your own old military guys and they will tell you.

 

[AbRaj]

No
We have scaled down quite significantly.
Khalistan hasn't been supported since mid 90s.
No proper training given to Kashmiri fighters since 1999 when General Musharraf decided to close all training on Pakistani soil.
Before that plenty of Kashmiri fighters were trained on Pakistan army firing ranges
The skinny jeans wearing, pistol welding sissy boys your army fights these days in Kashmir are nothing compared what they were in the 80s.
Ask your own old military guys and they will tell you.

We believe you. Like Atal VB believed Nawaz and Mushi. We can’t help it because apparently “Hindu mind” is ebil as said by some maulana not so long ago

 

[randomradio]

Baloch and Pushtoons were given the right of referendum, and they voted to join Pakistan.
It's historical fact .
Kashmiris were never given that right. They were forcefully absorbed In India , because some Raja said so.
There's the difference between indian rubbish stance and Pakistans rightful position about Kashmir.

The opposite.

Pakistan signed standstill agreements with both Balochis and Kashmiris. And then broke it. Baloch fell without much resistance, while Kashmir received India's help after they signed the IoA in India's favour. The referendum in Balochistan was a joke. Overall, everything about Pakistan related to the partition was a joke. It makes for a nice read in the ISI's playbook. In fact Balochistan was supposed to be a free country, but Jinnah backtracked. The Baloch parliament even discussed accension to India for safety, which India declined to accept.

There is history and then there's Pakistani history.

 

[randomradio]

We have scaled down quite significantly.

It wasn't out of choice. It was entirely due to compulsion.

Khalistanis were pulled out by their roots in India. With no new place to take root in, it died.

Kashmir insurgency only started waning in the mid-2000s, not in 1999. It was mainly after the completion of the fencing in 2004. Musharraf didn't end anything. There was simply a growing realisation that terrorism was not working. Nothing more. So now it's all about just sending kids and criminals as cannon fodder.

 

[screambowl]

We have scaled down quite significantly.
Khalistan hasn't been supported since mid 90s.
No proper training given to Kashmiri fighters since 1999 when General Musharraf decided to close all training on Pakistani soil.

You have revived all that after India removed a370 and 35a

 

[safriz]

The opposite.

Pakistan signed standstill agreements with both Balochis and Kashmiris. And then broke it. Baloch fell without much resistance, while Kashmir received India's help after they signed the IoA in India's favour. The referendum in Balochistan was a joke. Overall, everything about Pakistan related to the partition was a joke. It makes for a nice read in the ISI's playbook. In fact Balochistan was supposed to be a free country, but Jinnah backtracked. The Baloch parliament even discussed accension to India for safety, which India declined to accept.

There is history and then there's Pakistani history.

Joke or not, but a referendum did happen.
Why can't India try the same "joke" in Kashmir?