Kashmir : Counter Terror Operation Updates and Discussions

Can we AFFORD a war at this point of time
Koi khuddar qoum kabhi bhi ye sawal nahi karegi.

Kuch to karan hoga na ki duniya me aaj yahudi sabse jyada kamyab hai?

Karan pata hai kya hai? Kyuki wo apno ki keemat jante hai. 2014 me unhone war start kar diya tha sirf 3 logo ke kiye.

1948 me jab unpar sab mil ke hmla kiya tha, to unhone ye sawal nahi kiya hoga.
 
Can we AFFORD a war at this point of time
It's not question of affordability. It's can we ignore this and take more blows after blows and get humiliated by Jahil Pigs who have nothing to lose...😠

The only thing that can deter these b*stards is total destruction of Pakistan, at whatever cost it be....😠
 
Koi khuddar qoum kabhi bhi ye sawal nahi karegi.

Kuch to karan hoga na ki duniya me aaj yahudi sabse jyada kamyab hai?

Karan pata hai kya hai? Kyuki wo apno ki keemat jante hai. 2014 me unhone war start kar diya tha sirf 3 logo ke kiye.

1948 me jab unpar sab mil ke hmla kiya tha, to unhone ye sawal nahi kiya hoga.

If you want to.see how.KHUDDAR we
Are as a nation and society

You should.see what is happening to our poor people right now

How we are trampling their dignity

Now let us talk finances

This Lockdown will cost 25 Lakh Crores to Indian economy and you are dreaming of War

Be realistic

The death of soldiers is sad but we can
Give ONE crore to their families

War needs resources

You cannot print Dollars

Our Remittances and Exports will be Screwed for many months now
 
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No matter what

At this point in time War is Not an option

If the Only Aim is to " DO something "
Let the Govt order more Air Strikes on Pak Army assets and installations
You are right, war will be stupidity at this time, Its better to fuel the proxy war inside Pakistan.
 
You are right, war will be stupidity at this time, Its better to fuel the proxy war inside Pakistan.

We have been firing ATGMs and 155 mm shells.and the occasional Pinaka for a long time now

But it is only killing their soldiers and terrorists

Time to Step up the escalation ladder

Use Air power , hit some valuable
Assets

And this time without any stupid restrictions such as Feb 27

Shoot down their planes if they come close
 
At this point in time War is Not an option
There is never a right time for war. Even 1971 was not a right time for war when economically india was fked up and we were living on USAID and alms from across the world. 1998 too was not a right time with economic sanction and nuclear weapons tests hangover by both countries.
You have to make right decisions to survive. When your survival is at stake you can't look at right time to fight.

Eg. If someone threatens you to kill you with sword in his hands or abuse your family, would you wait for right time or just RAM yourself into him. Consequences whatever be, you will always consider secondary and will asses later on...
 
There is never a right time for war. Even 1971 was not a right time for war when economically india was fked up and we were living on USAID and alms from across the world. 1998 too was not a right time with economic sanction and nuclear weapons tests hangover by both countries.
You have to make right decisions to survive. When your survival is at stake you can't look at right time to fight.

Eg. If someone threatens you to kill you with sword in his hands or abuse your family, would you wait for right time or just RAM yourself into him. Consequences whatever be, you will always consider secondary and will asses later on...

So China and OIC will not intervene

Are you sure

By the way I suport and demand airstrikes in POK

There are many targets in POK
 
We have been firing ATGMs and 155 mm shells.and the occasional Pinaka for a long time now

But it is only killing their soldiers and terrorists

Time to Step up the escalation ladder

Use Air power , hit some valuable
Assets

And this time without any stupid restrictions such as Feb 27

Shoot down their planes if they come close
That's what is necessary. Put some brahmos into Rawalpindi GHQ, Karachi naval base, destroy a few air bases, with few sqdns of fighters, hit Islamabad with air strike. Light up Punjab borders and especially Lahore City. This will be enough to make them Shiver and shit in pants....😠
 
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That's what is necessary. Put some brahmos into Rawalpindi GHQ, Karachi naval base, destroy a few air bases, with few sqdns of fighters, hit Islamabad with air strike. Light up Punjab borders and especially Lahore City. This will be enough to make them Shiver and shit in pants....😠

You are forgetting one key thing

People of India right now are pre occupied with their own economic problems

In Feb 19 ,When Pulwama happened
It was Public demand which forced Modi to attack Pakistan

I dont see any such Public demand for war coming from the people
 
That's what is necessary. Put some brahmos into Rawalpindi GHQ, Karachi naval base, destroy a few air bases, with few sqdns of fighters, hit Islamabad with air strike. Light up Punjab borders and especially Lahore City. This will be enough to make them Shiver and shit in pants....😠

While all this sounds really good, we should be ready for retaliation by the Pakistanis in kind. Please remember that Pak armed forces (except their so called navy) is not a pushover. Yes, we have more men, materials and resources, and will prevail in a war of attrition, but we need to be able to have the capacity to absorb an attack on delhi, Ahmedabad, Surat, Chandigarh and other urban centers within easy reach of Pak. That requires political will and not military might. Also, in such a scenario we will see flight of capital from India and the economy will go back at least 10 to 20 years.

Hence, IMHO, (and as a complete non-expert in these matters) we should either go for an all out war with the aim to annihilate Pak, or continue with a mix of covert action, cross LOC action and economic strangulation.
 
So China and OIC will not intervene

Are you sure

By the way I suport and demand airstrikes in POK

There are many targets in POK
In my honest belief, I believe that boat has already sailed and here I mean with Pakistan establishment and its proxies. With the nuclear element in play, we have very limited space left except replying in sub-conventional warfare without limitations, with conventional warfare space is very much limited. We know it has already happened, but we aren't ready acknowledge that. Is our establishment ready to press the final solution button, that's what will matter. I know for a fact it's hard to say as it even hurts me too but seeing our soldiers falling to enemy while inside Indian borders, that hurts even more. So our establishment should have gone for final kill, otherwise our son of souls will keep getting killed in action without enemy suffering mortal kill. Restraint or deterrent don't matter against Pakistani state and its proxies, period.
 
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While all this sounds really good, we should be ready for retaliation by the Pakistanis in kind. Please remember that Pak armed forces (except their so called navy) is not a pushover. Yes, we have more men, materials and resources, and will prevail in a war of attrition, but we need to be able to have the capacity to absorb an attack on delhi, Ahmedabad, Surat, Chandigarh and other urban centers within easy reach of Pak. That requires political will and not military might. Also, in such a scenario we will see flight of capital from India and the economy will go back at least 10 to 20 years.

Hence, IMHO, (and as a complete non-expert in these matters) we should either go for an all out war with the aim to annihilate Pak, or continue with a mix of covert action, cross LOC action and economic strangulation.
Final kill is the only solution, rest is just hogwash being repeated from long time. We have crossed LOC, done covert missions and economic strangulation so many times, have we got positive result? We don't see the stability at all. Cold hard truth.
 
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It's not question of affordability. It's can we ignore this and take more blows after blows and get humiliated by Jahil Pigs who have nothing to lose...😠

The only thing that can deter these b*stards is total destruction of Pakistan, at whatever cost it be....😠
The problem with you(and with you I mean people like you in twitter) is that you guys don't understand that a lot of stuff is happening in the background which is hurting Pakistan, India is not going to go to war and kill some people and shoot a video so that you can score some brownie points in twitter. India's strategy is effective and will play dividend's in the long run.
 
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In my honest belief, I believe that boat has already sailed and here I mean with Pakistan establishment and its proxies. With the nuclear element in play, we have very limited space left except replying in sub-conventional warfare without limitations, with conventional warfare space is very much limited. We know it has already happened, but we aren't ready acknowledge that. Is our establishment ready to press the final solution button, that's what will matter. I know for a fact it's hard to say as it even hurts me too but seeing our soldiers falling to enemy while inside Indian borders, that hurts even more. So our establishment should have gone for final kill, otherwise our son of souls will keep getting killed in action without enemy suffering mortal kill. Restraint or deterrent don't matter against Pakistani state and its proxies, period.

We can hurt them in POK

POK is a disputed territory

Make it difficult for them to hold POK

This can be done with precision strikes

When their Brigade .and Battalion HQs become dysfunctional and paralyzed
They will be forced to stop.these Fidayeen attacks

These.Fidayeen attacks are the only way they are able.to hurt us
 
The problem with you(and with you I mean people like you in twitter) is that you guys don't understand that a lot of stuff is happening in the background which is hurting Pakistan, India is not going to go to war and kill some people and shoot a video so that you can score some brownie points in twitter. India's strategy is effective and will play dividend's in the long run.

Unless we occupy some Territory like Haji Pir , Pakistan will not back off

Or go for High intensity.Air strikes

They can sacrifice Thousands of their Soldiers

Artillery.is NOT.enough
 
Seriously if we don't do airstrike we will be signalling that we are willing to accept the losses,just hope opposition mount pressure on the govt and seek accountability,kind of surprised when no tough questions were asked from the govt. After we lost 5 para along with 4 armymen two days back .it is the time we need a vociferous opposition ,why no questions were asked.only because it's not the election time???

It's much better to hire mercenaries and Target 🐖 in their country ,it won't cost more than a few lakh to hire an Afghan,baloochi ,pathan to Target their army officer in Karachi .
If we are afraid then be ready to count body this side and provide a RIP button.

It simply beat my senses how a nuisance value like bakistan continue to hit us so persistently yet we tries to act holy.

It's been a while since I have heard about bomb blast in Karachi,lawhore,Rawalpindi and asslamabad .
Is it that difficult or we are simply incompetent??

There are many options for which war is not necessary ,keep Pakistani busy in handling the terrorist attack in their cities or we should better be prepared for counting ours
 
We can hurt them in POK

POK is a disputed territory

Make it difficult for them to hold POK

This can be done with precision strikes

When their Brigade .and Battalion HQs become dysfunctional and paralyzed
They will be forced to stop.these Fidayeen attacks

These.Fidayeen attacks are the only way they are able.to hurt us
Then you are mistaken mate. POK is expendable to them as long as they are able to send non-state actors inside India, doesn't matter if it's J&K or mainland India. And your above post is just on the expected lines as I am mentioned in post 1834(here I mean Indian establishment). You know you can't go for final kill, so just trying to soothe by saying we will attack POK or even mainland Pakistan. However, until and unless whole of Pakistani state goes down permanently or us, till then this cycle will keep rotating and many of us will keep clinging on to the rope looking best in our views.