Kashmir : Counter Terror Operation Updates and Discussions

Pakistan is taking advantage of India being completely focussed on Corona crisis, plain and simple. We have to fly missions to get Indians home. Current situation dictates that we don't escalate or it will be like shooting self in the foot.
Pak knows this and is exploiting this. I am not sure if our leadership both military and political didn't see this coming as it was pretty obvious. It totally depends on how competent our planners are for what they have planned to contain this nuisance. I hope we have a plan, we must.
And I just hope, that this action by Pak back fires and it will only happen if we take the initiative. We need the world narrative to be totally against Pakistan. It's crucial, crucial time now.
 
Jaymax said:
@nair can we please block this err "individual" from this thread for a few days. The prevailing mood right now is pretty upset and his presence is only riling up the forum.
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No. Just because of his views, you do not need to get riled up. You are more than capable of intellectually refuting him.
 
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It is sheer desperation that has forced pakistan to go for suicide fidayeen attacks. It is just a confirmation that things are going in the correct way. We should not jump to conclusions based on one or two incidents.
 
Deathstar said:
Looks like Pakistanis have sneaked in some hardcore Afghan Taliban fighters , time to exhaust our old ordinaces.
This can be a tactic to divert populations attention from the pandemic
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The two terrorists killed in Col.Ashutosh's op didn't look Afghani
 
Milspec said:
Both calm down, India is not in a position to fight a war at this point. It's not the point of sher, bakri, gaay or mendak. We are humans and we fight like humans.
If we want to fight a war better ensure you are absolutely going to win and as @STEPHEN COHEN mentioned we truly are not a position to fight a war at this point.; in the meanwhile, we have enough resources to retaliate locally which we will continue to do. Remember the units which lost their men are not going to forget what happened.
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There never will be an ideal situation to fight. We will always need to fight the hardest when we are pushed fully against the wall.

And yes we do posses the resources to do it.

What's lacking is the decision making factor to acknowledge that one thing is right or wrong and to stand by it at all costs.

And i never said fight a fair war. Never said fight a war like humans. Fight like 1 Indians worth is more than all the other remaining humans on the earth, even if that one Indian is a criminal. In short, be ready to kill innocents in large numbers across the fence so that the innocents on this side of the fence, might be just able to survive the night. With empty stomachs, yes. But they will atleast survive it.
 
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lcafanboy said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1257356706360758277
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This guy specifically mentioning Uri, Balakot, and especially Kargil itself shows they've taken in military casualities...but when did Pakistanis ever reveal their soldiers KIA!!
Ankit Kumar said:
There never will be an ideal situation to fight. We will always need to fight the hardest when we are pushed fully against the wall.

And yes we do posses the resources to do it.

What's lacking is the decision making factor to acknowledge that one thing is right or wrong and to stand by it at all costs.

And i never said fight a fair war. Never said fight a war like humans. Fight like 1 Indians worth is more than all the other remaining humans on the earth, even if that one Indian is a criminal. In short, be ready to kill innocents in large numbers across the fence so that the innocents on this side of the fence, might be just able to survive the night. With empty stomachs, yes. But they will atleast survive it.
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Our response should be disproportionate or we'd end up facing significant losses. Currently, we're on an equal scale both on army and airforce fronts while a league ahead on the naval front...
 
lcafanboy said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1257375464722780160

All osint handles getting deactivated..😱🤔😬🤐
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Good, why waste time, except more drama nothing will happen, will suggest others too to take it easy, when their parent organization have no effect of piling up of bodies why to get all riled up?

Neither government is interested nor Army why disturb your mental peace. Some MLA once said Soldiers goes to Army for dying, what's the big deal, I think he said it after talking to Indian generals and learning their psyche.

Everyone is looking after their carrier, I would suggest you all too look at it instead of wasting your time on defence.
 
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Ankit Kumar said:
There never will be an ideal situation to fight. We will always need to fight the hardest when we are pushed fully against the wall.

And yes we do posses the resources to do it.

What's lacking is the decision making factor to acknowledge that one thing is right or wrong and to stand by it at all costs.

And i never said fight a fair war. Never said fight a war like humans. Fight like 1 Indians worth is more than all the other remaining humans on the earth, even if that one Indian is a criminal. In short, be ready to kill innocents in large numbers across the fence so that the innocents on this side of the fence, might be just able to survive the night. With empty stomachs, yes. But they will atleast survive it.
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I disagree on killing innocents just to prove a point. In a war, yes, innocents will dye on both sides, but doing it deliberately is not something an army as professional as ours will resort to.

However, I agree on the fact that strong action is required and that is achievable by taking out their HV military targets (collateral damage is not totally avoidable) is some scenarios.

If we show the courage to put a step, a firm step forward and nail Pakistan's oil refinery in Karachi (remeber 71 and black smoke over Karachi), hit a few air bases as a response, it will show them how serious we are.

But then, it will be a declaration of war. And problem I see with that right now is, west won't support us, though they never have and never will. But at present we have a bigger problem, Corona. Our economy is affected due to lockdown and war would mean further collapse.
Do we, Indians who can't stay indoors to save their own a## and starts shouting, have the stomach to go through a war at this time?

I don't think so.

Even though there is no right time, there definitely is "wrong" time and now is definitely a wrong time to get involved in war.


We had the chance last year and we wasted it.
Now we must endure till we get a favourable situation.
 
Atleast wipe out their brigade HQ on Eid, let them feel the pain when it hurts most.

But it will be denied because they can target ours and that thought is enough for us to chicken out.
 
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BlackOpsIndia said:
Atleast wipe out their brigade HQ on Eid, let them feel the pain when it hurts most.

But it will be denied because they can target ours and that thought is enough for us to chicken out.
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We dont chicken out because they can target us. We chicken out because the present govt. is finding is tough to walk the talk. They chickened out in Parakram after Vajpayee promised "Aar Paar Ki Ladai".

I had high hopes that Modi will go for the kill. But after Feb19 he is playing like its a the last 5 overs of a test match and he doesnt want to lose a wicket by playing a shot in poor light.

There was article recently which had said that artillery strikes are a poor choice because they dont discourage Pak. This entire forum had attacked that article.

Yesterday we hit them hard. Today they struck back in their trademark terror style. We have to face the truth. Pakistan cannot be discouraged. We can keep on losing economic prosperity / men in this endless cycle or we can actually do something to take them out.
 
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BlackOpsIndia said:
Atleast wipe out their brigade HQ on Eid, let them feel the pain when it hurts most.

But it will be denied because they can target ours and that thought is enough for us to chicken out.
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There are a lot of options on the table. Including long term and short term.

For starters, learn a trick from ISI only.

Some long term things we need to start immediately.

Start printing more pakistani currency than pakistan itself does. There are more easier ways to get that in. There is already a good penetration of drugs within their society. So one thing less. Start doing public bombings in economic areas so as to hurt the foreign investment and economic activities. Do sabotage missions against Railways, dams, power projects in Pakistan. Fuel Shia vs Sunni tensions in Shia dominant regions first.


For short term, i have firm beleive in our NSA, CDS and top Army management. Its just that after that one blow, which obviously Pakistan will deny, we will be back to square one. They still pushing in terrorists.
 
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RISING SUN said:
One was from POK and one was from our side of Kashmir region.
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So both were Kashmiri ?
Isn't that proof that the Kashmiri struggle is an indigenous movement because Kashmiri people don't want to be with India?

Also the current situation is totally the fault of your Nerender Modi. He provoke Kashmiri people by annexing Kashmir without the consent of Kashmiri people and then keeping then jailed inside their homes for about an year now.
Any people from anywhere in the world will go up in arms if treated like that.
 
safriz said:
So both were Kashmiri ?
Isn't that proof that the Kashmiri struggle is an indigenous movement because Kashmiri people don't want to be with India?

Also the current situation is totally the fault of your Nerender Modi. He provoke Kashmiri people by annexing Kashmir without the consent of Kashmiri people and then keeping then jailed inside their homes for about an year now.
Any people from anywhere in the world will go up in arms if treated like that.
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You should have taken a longer break ..🙂
 
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safriz said:
So both were Kashmiri ?
Isn't that proof that the Kashmiri struggle is an indigenous movement because Kashmiri people don't want to be with India?

Also the current situation is totally the fault of your Nerender Modi. He provoke Kashmiri people by annexing Kashmir without the consent of Kashmiri people and then keeping then jailed inside their homes for about an year now.
Any people from anywhere in the world will go up in arms if treated like that.
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How did a POK terrorist ended up inside India, cross border terrorism ringing any bells? Or do you people (and I mean Pakistani establishment here) look the other way when it happens?
 
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