LCA AF Mk2 (Medium Weight Fighter) - News and discussions
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Today it's on paper while other two are flying.
Let it fly before asking these questions.
On paper, better than both. We're looking for Gripen-E level of tech here. But of course, it's long way away from being operational.
And F-16 Block 52? If anything you should compare MK2 with Block 70 that is on offer for MRFA.
Add atleast 2 to 3 years to what he says. These guys are not accountable.
See how conveniently they shift the goal post. AMCS shifted to 2035. Earlier it was told that AMCA without TVC shall be operational by 2031 and one with TVC shall be operational by 2035. This is basically a shifting of goal post by 4 years.
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(from the « forbidden blog »
for once citing a souce – reason why i repost –being alphadefence YT channel. But i did not find the vid.)
According to the Alpha Defence YouTube channel, The Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) of India is set to further refine the design of the Tejas Mk2 fighter jet, following crucial wind tunnel tests conducted by the French National Aerospace Research Center, ONERA (Office National d’Études et de Recherches Aérospatiales). These tests have yielded critical data that will influence the optimization of key components such as the air intake and canards, which will be incorporated into the upcoming prototypes of the Tejas Mk2.
ONERA, renowned for its cutting-edge aerodynamic research and development, played a key role in analyzing the airflow dynamics and performance parameters of the Tejas Mk2 in its advanced wind tunnel facilities. The wind tunnel tests, an essential part of aerospace development, simulate real-world flight conditions, allowing engineers to evaluate how various design elements perform under stress.
The focus of these wind tunnel tests was primarily on two areas critical to the Tejas Mk2’s performance: the air intake and canards.
Canards: The canards, which are small, forward-mounted control surfaces, have been incorporated into the Tejas Mk2 design to enhance maneuverability and control at higher angles of attack. The ONERA tests provided valuable data on how the canards influence the jet’s aerodynamic profile, enabling ADA engineers to fine-tune their positioning and shape for maximum effectiveness. Enhanced canard design is expected to improve the aircraft’s agility, stability, and handling in combat situations.
Air Intake Design: The air intake system of a fighter jet is vital for ensuring optimal airflow to the engine, which directly impacts thrust and overall performance. ONERA’s tests provided insights into how the Tejas Mk2’s air intake can be optimized for improved efficiency, reducing drag and enhancing airflow even at high speeds and altitudes. These refinements are expected to provide better performance in both supersonic and subsonic flight regimes.
The findings from ONERA will be incorporated into the next batch of Tejas Mk2 prototypes. This stage of optimization is crucial as ADA prepares the Tejas Mk2 for its first flight, expected in the coming years. The enhancements made as a result of these tests will not only improve the fighter’s aerodynamic efficiency but will also contribute to its operational effectiveness in the field.
ONERA’s involvement highlights the collaborative efforts between India and France in aerospace research. Leveraging ONERA’s world-class facilities and expertise in wind tunnel testing allows ADA to ensure that the Tejas Mk2 meets international standards in performance and design. ONERA has conducted similar tests for various international fighter programs, lending further credibility to the aerodynamic improvements being incorporated into the Tejas Mk2.
The Tejas Mk2 is a highly anticipated evolution of the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), designed to address the operational needs of the Indian Air Force (IAF). Unlike its predecessor, the Mk2 features significant upgrades, including a larger fuselage, more powerful GE-F414 engines, enhanced payload capacity, and improved avionics. The introduction of canards and other design enhancements aims to significantly boost the platform’s maneuverability, speed, and combat effectiveness. /end
(from the « forbidden blog »
for once citing a souce – reason why i repost –being alphadefence YT channel. But i did not find the vid.)ADA to Further Optimize Tejas Mk2 Design Based on ONERA Wind Tunnel Tests
October 1, 2024 SOURCE: AFIAccording to the Alpha Defence YouTube channel, The Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) of India is set to further refine the design of the Tejas Mk2 fighter jet, following crucial wind tunnel tests conducted by the French National Aerospace Research Center, ONERA (Office National d’Études et de Recherches Aérospatiales). These tests have yielded critical data that will influence the optimization of key components such as the air intake and canards, which will be incorporated into the upcoming prototypes of the Tejas Mk2.
ONERA, renowned for its cutting-edge aerodynamic research and development, played a key role in analyzing the airflow dynamics and performance parameters of the Tejas Mk2 in its advanced wind tunnel facilities. The wind tunnel tests, an essential part of aerospace development, simulate real-world flight conditions, allowing engineers to evaluate how various design elements perform under stress.
The focus of these wind tunnel tests was primarily on two areas critical to the Tejas Mk2’s performance: the air intake and canards.
Canards: The canards, which are small, forward-mounted control surfaces, have been incorporated into the Tejas Mk2 design to enhance maneuverability and control at higher angles of attack. The ONERA tests provided valuable data on how the canards influence the jet’s aerodynamic profile, enabling ADA engineers to fine-tune their positioning and shape for maximum effectiveness. Enhanced canard design is expected to improve the aircraft’s agility, stability, and handling in combat situations.
Air Intake Design: The air intake system of a fighter jet is vital for ensuring optimal airflow to the engine, which directly impacts thrust and overall performance. ONERA’s tests provided insights into how the Tejas Mk2’s air intake can be optimized for improved efficiency, reducing drag and enhancing airflow even at high speeds and altitudes. These refinements are expected to provide better performance in both supersonic and subsonic flight regimes.
The findings from ONERA will be incorporated into the next batch of Tejas Mk2 prototypes. This stage of optimization is crucial as ADA prepares the Tejas Mk2 for its first flight, expected in the coming years. The enhancements made as a result of these tests will not only improve the fighter’s aerodynamic efficiency but will also contribute to its operational effectiveness in the field.
ONERA’s involvement highlights the collaborative efforts between India and France in aerospace research. Leveraging ONERA’s world-class facilities and expertise in wind tunnel testing allows ADA to ensure that the Tejas Mk2 meets international standards in performance and design. ONERA has conducted similar tests for various international fighter programs, lending further credibility to the aerodynamic improvements being incorporated into the Tejas Mk2.
The Tejas Mk2 is a highly anticipated evolution of the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), designed to address the operational needs of the Indian Air Force (IAF). Unlike its predecessor, the Mk2 features significant upgrades, including a larger fuselage, more powerful GE-F414 engines, enhanced payload capacity, and improved avionics. The introduction of canards and other design enhancements aims to significantly boost the platform’s maneuverability, speed, and combat effectiveness. /end
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— Delhi Defence Review (@delhidefence) October 4, 2024
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(from the « forbidden blog »
ADA to Further Optimize Tejas Mk2 Design Based on ONERA Wind Tunnel Tests
October 1, 2024 SOURCE: AFI
According to the Alpha Defence YouTube channel, The Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) of India is set to further refine the design of the Tejas Mk2 fighter jet, following crucial wind tunnel tests conducted by the French National Aerospace Research Center, ONERA (Office National d’Études et de Recherches Aérospatiales). These tests have yielded critical data that will influence the optimization of key components such as the air intake and canards, which will be incorporated into the upcoming prototypes of the Tejas Mk2.
ONERA, renowned for its cutting-edge aerodynamic research and development, played a key role in analyzing the airflow dynamics and performance parameters of the Tejas Mk2 in its advanced wind tunnel facilities. The wind tunnel tests, an essential part of aerospace development, simulate real-world flight conditions, allowing engineers to evaluate how various design elements perform under stress.
The focus of these wind tunnel tests was primarily on two areas critical to the Tejas Mk2’s performance: the air intake and canards.
Canards: The canards, which are small, forward-mounted control surfaces, have been incorporated into the Tejas Mk2 design to enhance maneuverability and control at higher angles of attack. The ONERA tests provided valuable data on how the canards influence the jet’s aerodynamic profile, enabling ADA engineers to fine-tune their positioning and shape for maximum effectiveness. Enhanced canard design is expected to improve the aircraft’s agility, stability, and handling in combat situations.
Air Intake Design: The air intake system of a fighter jet is vital for ensuring optimal airflow to the engine, which directly impacts thrust and overall performance. ONERA’s tests provided insights into how the Tejas Mk2’s air intake can be optimized for improved efficiency, reducing drag and enhancing airflow even at high speeds and altitudes. These refinements are expected to provide better performance in both supersonic and subsonic flight regimes.
The findings from ONERA will be incorporated into the next batch of Tejas Mk2 prototypes. This stage of optimization is crucial as ADA prepares the Tejas Mk2 for its first flight, expected in the coming years. The enhancements made as a result of these tests will not only improve the fighter’s aerodynamic efficiency but will also contribute to its operational effectiveness in the field.
ONERA’s involvement highlights the collaborative efforts between India and France in aerospace research. Leveraging ONERA’s world-class facilities and expertise in wind tunnel testing allows ADA to ensure that the Tejas Mk2 meets international standards in performance and design. ONERA has conducted similar tests for various international fighter programs, lending further credibility to the aerodynamic improvements being incorporated into the Tejas Mk2.
The Tejas Mk2 is a highly anticipated evolution of the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), designed to address the operational needs of the Indian Air Force (IAF). Unlike its predecessor, the Mk2 features significant upgrades, including a larger fuselage, more powerful GE-F414 engines, enhanced payload capacity, and improved avionics. The introduction of canards and other design enhancements aims to significantly boost the platform’s maneuverability, speed, and combat effectiveness. /end
This is a great news and I love it very much. You can change Radar and electronics but platform once made can not be changed. Therefore, aerodynamic optimization is a key to performance as it is going to stay till platform remains.
Much Better. F 16 and J 10 are draggy designs. Tejas MK2 in spite of lower power engine, carries more weight than J10. MWF shall be a batter aerodynamic design exploiting more capabilities out of Platform. MTOW it delivers with 58/98 KN power engine is amazing. i am very excited to see it getting batter in Aerodynamic design in ONERA facility. This will make platform batter to mount weapons and other electronics. J10 C with TVC is good in close combat. In rest of the scenario, MWF shall fare batter.
In first instance, order 4 squadron. In next order, Demand at least frontal stealth, Weapon Bay and lower RCS. new 75/120 KN Engine if it is ready by that time. I am sure that electronics and radar shall keep improving. A Spectra like system is need of hour.
This fellow didn't get the sarcasm
Anyways, seriously:
1. MK2 will have SPECTRA type integrated EW suite.
2. It'll have GaN AESA radar with EA capability.
It isn't supposed to be silver bullet but rather IAF's workhorse. AMCA MK2 would be that for us along with FUFA/Ghatak.
SPECTRA like EW and GAN AESA radars are still a decade away.
Brings back the memories..
Reason Mk1 didn't have Internal probe is because it didn't have space..
Reason Mk1 didn't have Internal probe is because it didn't have space..
Yes of course. Its just EOI though, not much technical details shared, if any.
Retractable probe? Even Rafale does not have one. They tried for MK1 and failed wasting lot of time.
Is it the same case again?
