LCA Tejas Mk1 & Mk1A - News and discussions

Lolwa said:
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FADEC in Russian origin RD 33 family is extremely bad and a very high failure rate. The cost will be balanced out. Say you need 2 GE404 over a certain period of time with airframe, you will need 4-5 RD33 types over the same period of you want a similar performance and availability.

All this if the single RD33 doesn't fail and the LCA doesn't crash.
Lolwa said:
aim-120c7/d
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To do so we will need to integrate an American radar on the aircraft.
 
_Anonymous_ said:
Why isn't it happening ?
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Because we are not serious. Drdo made a standoff weapon with the saaw but can't produce a basic guidance kit which could just be the license produced Israeli kit. The pghsld has a shorter range and only compatible for upto 500 kg and not battle tested at all compared to the jdams . Also the drdo has still not made it complete product. Their bombs were failing the glide test. It's bad. Funny part is that Pakistanis have their basics in order they already have a guidance kit known as Takbir which is basically a jdam. Same for the Turks with the hgk series which is a license produced jdam for all purposes. The Chinese have a bunch of different guidance munitions along with ballistic and cruise missiles that can be used on the jf-17.
Ankit Kumar said:
FADEC in Russian origin RD 33 family is extremely bad and a very high failure rate. The cost will be balanced out. Say you need 2 GE404 over a certain period of time with airframe, you will need 4-5 RD33 types over the same period of you want a similar performance and availability.

All this if the single RD33 doesn't fail and the LCA doesn't crash.

To do so we will need to integrate an American radar on the aircraft.
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The Koreans had integrated aim-120 series on the el/2032 based kai- t-50. We can integrate atleast the c5 on the tejas on the Israeli radars.
 
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Lolwa said:
Koreans had integrated aim-120 series on the el/2032 based kai- t-50. We can integrate atleast the c5 on the tejas on the Israeli radars.
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Lockheed Martin in a co developer in that project.

For export US will demand an American radar.

And we can do nothing, the integration work will be done by Israelies if USA gives a go ahead.

They weren't ready to share the basic algorithms for Javelin with us , what do you think their reactions will be when we ask about their Aim120?

And remember LCA uses a Hybrid MMR which is based on Israeli radar. For Aim120 we would have to downgrade many capabilities too.
 
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Ankit Kumar said:
Lockheed Martin in a co developer in that project.

For export US will demand an American radar.

And we can do nothing, the integration work will be done by Israelies if USA gives a go ahead.

They weren't ready to share the basic algorithms for Javelin with us , what do you think their reactions will be when we ask about their Aim120?

And remember LCA uses a Hybrid MMR which is based on Israeli radar. For Aim120 we would have to downgrade many capabilities too.
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Well maybe the Americans could allow but not under the pedo regime there.
 
Lolwa said:
No it was a great decision integrating the JDAM. The tejas becomes a strong export prospect in the rest of third world and also in middle east and Europe. We also need to integrate the aim-120c7/d atleast with the mk1a. Then it will sell like fire. We just need a rd 33mk3 based tejas for export in Africa to cut costs. And a cheaper aesa/pesa for the tejas that can cut costs of the tejas further.
Tejas should be integrated with all the american munitions just for interoperability and export. Same for European smart munitions like spear 3 and kepd 350. We will have Gripen killer in no time.
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I am with you, If we consider Tejas for the export option ...we are giving additional features to buyers who are already having this Kit and using it
 
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I am with you, If we consider Tejas for the export option ...we are giving additional features to buyers who are already having this Kit and using it
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In fact it gives IAF more options too. The larger the ammunition variety the more comfortable it will be in war. And even for an interoperability case where we have to do joint missions under the quad a flexible tejas able to use American and western weaponry will be amazing.
 
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1509825244927651840

This tweet showcases the incremental approach taken by ADA, DRDO HAL & IAF displaying the massive strides we've taken not just in designing development & manufacturing our very own indigenous platforms but also armaments ( in the past couple of decades, notably in the last 6-7 yrs) that can now feature among the very best the world has to offer & consequently compete with them on the world stage.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1509962312064675850

https://twitter.com/x/status/1509964691166142464

https://twitter.com/x/status/1509965081014157313

These tweets reflect a chronically dissatisfied soul with a jaundiced PoV where for every single point he makes which carries some weight he brings in 3 unrelated points trying to derive causation & effect, whipping out his junk to take a piss, so to speak.

There are times like this, I wish in-house storyteller was on firangi bird app to make his life more pleasant. As it is nobody there engages him which makes his life miserable having treated him with downright contempt in the past .

He's even got the normally very affable, cheerful, co operative & extremely knowledgeable, patient & humble Indranil to do so. That's some remarkable achievement.
 
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1509825244927651840

This tweet showcases the incremental approach taken by ADA, DRDO HAL & IAF displaying the massive strides we've taken not just in designing development & manufacturing our very own indigenous platforms but also armaments ( in the past couple of decades, notably in the last 6-7 yrs) that can now feature among the very best the world has to offer & consequently compete with them on the world stage.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1509962312064675850

https://twitter.com/x/status/1509964691166142464

https://twitter.com/x/status/1509965081014157313

These tweets reflect a chronically dissatisfied soul with a jaundiced PoV where for every single point he makes which carries some weight he brings in 3 unrelated points trying to derive causation & effect, whipping out his junk to take a piss, so to speak.

There are times like this, I wish in-house storyteller was on firangi bird app to make his life more pleasant. As it is nobody there engages him which makes his life miserable having treated him with downright contempt in the past .

He's even got the normally very affable, cheerful, co operative & extremely knowledgeable, patient & humble Indranil to do so. That's some remarkable achievement.
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@Sancho is correct. That poster is made by some jobless fanboy. Not something we would expect from a big aerospace company.
 
Tatvamasi said:
@Sancho is correct. That poster is made by some jobless fanboy. Not something we would expect from a big aerospace company.
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Except for the JDAM integration, which is a good idea if done, everything else that exists has more or less been integrated on the LCA.

It will be one of our most well-endowed jets in our inventory after we are done with it, only out-done by the MKI.

JDAM integration is a good idea because of the endless foreign supplies available. Post-Rafale production contract, I'd like to see the MICA-NG integrated as well.
 
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randomradio said:
Except for the JDAM integration, which is a good idea if done, everything else that exists has more or less been integrated on the LCA.

It will be one of our most well-endowed jets in our inventory after we are done with it, only out-done by the MKI.

JDAM integration is a good idea because of the endless foreign supplies available. Post-Rafale production contract, I'd like to see the MICA-NG integrated as well.
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Add Hammer too. It was procured in very small numbers as a stop-gap for Rafale not going to be integrated with LCA anytime soon. I bet JDAM procurement is also fake news peddled by ANI.
 
Tatvamasi said:
Add Hammer too. It was procured in very small numbers as a stop-gap for Rafale not going to be integrated with LCA anytime soon. I bet JDAM procurement is also fake news peddled by ANI.
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I'd trust ANI over Trishul though.

Also, it's believeable. There's no limit to how many such bombs we need. Assuming all 123 jets will have at least 2 sorties a day with bombs, then we need 246 bombs per sortie or 492 a day. For 10 days, we need 4920 bombs. But you see us generally buying only a few hundred bombs at a time, when we should be buying a few thousand. So our inventory will get a lot of help with an American supply during war, especially after we have exhausted our own inventories.

Hammer is already being done. But the French themselves do not have a lot. No European power is prepared to fight a long war.
 
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I'd trust ANI over Trishul though.

Also, it's believeable. There's no limit to how many such bombs we need. Assuming all 123 jets will have at least 2 sorties a day with bombs, then we need 246 bombs per sortie or 492 a day. For 10 days, we need 4920 bombs. But you see us generally buying only a few hundred bombs at a time, when we should be buying a few thousand. So our inventory will get a lot of help with an American supply during war, especially after we have exhausted our own inventories.

Hammer is already being done. But the French themselves do not have a lot. No European power is prepared to fight a long war.
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What about domestic Long Range Glide Bombs

And secondly with this current Russian invasion thing , why will US government approve our request

We will be lucky to see existing contracts completed on time
 
STEPHEN COHEN said:
Why would we prefer JDAMs over LRGB and TARA
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We are not prefering JDAMs over our own. We will buy mostly our own. But we can integrate JDAM and buy some of those, like 1 day's supply, and then have them supplied to us via emergency purchases or aid after we have exhausted our own inventories. We have enough AAMs, but we don't have enough PGMs for a long war. Our ammo inventory is very small.
 
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