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based on the videos I saw about this crash, I can say that most likely it was an engine failure and nothing to do with FBW algorithms'. The aircraft is seen to be flying straight and level with gear down while the pilot had ejected. If we have engine failure at very low level at high speed like in low level attack profile, we are required to pull up, point the aircraft in safe direction and eject as we do not have sky below us to relight the engine. Its our SOP as fighter Pilots. But if we are already at very low level with not enough energy to pull up and point the aircraft in safe direction, we are required to eject immediately
Runway behind and sky above has no value when you have an emergency/failure.
 
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Apparently the much touted safest fighter engine GE 404 that failed. What is astonishing is LCA stabilized due to excellent FBW system that recovered Tejas and was flying gliding to land....😳
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Exactly what I was thinking about and said. LCA Tejas has one of the best FBW system & excellent accident prevention system in the world. Even after engine failure Tejas didn't simply drop on the ground like other fighters drop like a stone but the FBW & accident prevention system were activated & made Tejas stable and was flying effortlessly even without a pilot input but since engine was shut and aircraft was powerless it began to descend and finally crashed. Had it been a plane land it would have landed on ground maybe with some bruises...
 
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lcafanboy said:

Apparently the much touted safest fighter engine GE 404 that failed. What is astonishing is LCA stabilized due to excellent FBW system that recovered Tejas and was flying gliding to land....😳
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Yes let's make it udankhatola then and fly it like a glider for kids. New toy in town. Wow how stable khatola.

Get habitual to these events because as soon as LCA is put under operational stress it's actual capability and flaws have started to emerge and there you have to optimize and do the improvement. If kaveri didi fits in then do it, must test against operational stress at LAC.
 
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based on the videos I saw about this crash, I can say that most likely it was an engine failure and nothing to do with FBW algorithms'. The aircraft is seen to be flying straight and level with gear down while the pilot had ejected. If we have engine failure at very low level at high speed like in low level attack profile, we are required to pull up, point the aircraft in safe direction and eject as we do not have sky below us to relight the engine. Its our SOP as fighter Pilots. But if we are already at very low level with not enough energy to pull up and point the aircraft in safe direction, we are required to eject immediately
Runway behind and sky above has no value when you have an emergency/failure.
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Any chance it was a bird strike?

Aur is it our Panuti-ji struck again? I am telling you folks, keep the guy away from the aircraft carrier.... for heaven's sake.
 
It's an operational aircraft that's been flying for decades.

Attrition losses are inevitable in any fleet. Including F-22 or F-35.

Don't make a mountain out of a mole hill.

People are literally going into depression I mean WTF :ROFLMAO:

Just be glad the ejection seat worked & the pilot is safe. And be glad the FCC was still doing it's job keeping the jet stable even on aux power.
 
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Parthu said:
It's an operational aircraft that's been flying for decades.

Attrition losses are inevitable in any fleet. Including F-22 or F-35.

Don't make a mountain out of a mole hill.

People are literally going into depression I mean WTF :ROFLMAO:

Just be glad the ejection seat worked & the pilot is safe. And be glad the FCC was still doing it's job keeping the jet stable even on aux power.
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I think this shows their love for LCA. when people in this country count the serial number of LCA Production SP1, SP2,..., and sometimes, in a complete year, 2 to 3 aircraft are produced, they will feel the pain if one aircraft crashes. Like when we lose a final match after working hard.
 
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vstol Jockey said:
based on the videos I saw about this crash, I can say that most likely it was an engine failure and nothing to do with FBW algorithms'. The aircraft is seen to be flying straight and level with gear down while the pilot had ejected. If we have engine failure at very low level at high speed like in low level attack profile, we are required to pull up, point the aircraft in safe direction and eject as we do not have sky below us to relight the engine. Its our SOP as fighter Pilots. But if we are already at very low level with not enough energy to pull up and point the aircraft in safe direction, we are required to eject immediately
Runway behind and sky above has no value when you have an emergency/failure.
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a) There were some news articles on other pilots safely landing an aircraft that got hit by missiles etc.
b) Also, there is a news article a year or so back saying that an LCA pilot safely landed an aircraft despite some (FBW?) malfunction, and this act landed him some award.

The LCA that crashed recently is flying straight and level (not doing funny things) and the gear is down......meaning that runway must be nearby and hence the pilot bought the gear down........can it be reasonably assumed that the aircraft would have flown till the runway?? If yes, then why did the pilot eject? Is there a chance that the pilot ejected early? rather than attempt his best to land??


PS: I read news of other pilots who tried to "rescue" the aircraft, but ended up giving their lives to the nation.
 
jk007 said:
a) There were some news articles on other pilots safely landing an aircraft that got hit by missiles etc.
b) Also, there is a news article a year or so back saying that an LCA pilot safely landed an aircraft despite some (FBW?) malfunction, and this act landed him some award.

The LCA that crashed recently is flying straight and level (not doing funny things) and the gear is down......meaning that runway must be nearby and hence the pilot bought the gear down........can it be reasonably assumed that the aircraft would have flown till the runway?? If yes, then why did the pilot eject? Is there a chance that the pilot ejected early? rather than attempt his best to land??


PS: I read news of other pilots who tried to "rescue" the aircraft, but ended up giving their lives to the nation.
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If an aircraft can be glided to land, The pilots will try that first. Our priority during any emergency is to first try and save the aircraft. If that is not possible, then it is to save people on ground and last is our own life. But if we end up in a situation when the first two are not possible, then we have to save ourselves. It appears to me that the pilot did realise that he cant make it to the runway as we know the glide ratio of the aircraft we fly and know instantly based on the distance to land and the altitude available if we can make it. In this case the place where the pilot ejected was pretty clear of dwellings. he probably did not anticipate that aircraft will go on flying on its own in that manner. he probably expected the aircraft to crash straight away. which it did not and struck a hostel wall.
 
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WTF...I mean WHAT THE FK....😳😳

India & China both were looking to make LCA Tejas together....😳😳
 
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WTF...I mean WHAT THE FK....😳😳

India & China both were looking to make LCA Tejas together....😳😳
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Yeah, we were all "friends" back then.

Communists in India were quite powerful back then, and we have Congress to thank for such missteps.

Indian commies had almost ruined the nation and the Mamata Banerjee and Vajpayee alliance took care of them.

We were very close to losing democracy multiple times throughout our history. We are very lucky the SU didn't want to upset the applecart too early and destabilize India.
 
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No, HAL has been tight lipped. By contract they are scheduled to send 1 fighter & 2 trainers by end of this month. Initially a little delay is expected, ie few weeks, plus you can consider political influence ie govt wanting to promote it for election pr purpose etc. So at present everything is very volatile in nature, scheduling wise. We can see nobody is able to confirm or tell correct date.
 
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marich01 said:
No, HAL has been tight lipped. By contract they are scheduled to send 1 fighter & 2 trainers by end of this month. Initially a little delay is expected, ie few weeks, plus you can consider political influence ie govt wanting to promote it for election pr purpose etc. So at present everything is very volatile in nature, scheduling wise. We can see nobody is able to confirm or tell correct date.
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Hopefully we hear the news soon. Fingers crossed.......
 
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