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Another one. We should send Tejas to as many Foreign airshows as possible, doesn't matter who likes it and who doesn't, we will get a lot of videos:)
We should send the FOC version from next time, because IOC variant has very limited flight envelope. And their display performance looks very boring and the display team should consist of HAL test pilot who can exploit every bit.
 
We should send the FOC version from next time, because IOC variant has very limited flight envelope. And their display performance looks very boring and the display team should consist of HAL test pilot who can exploit every bit.

I dont think it is correct. The IOC version, if I am not wrong got the software updates. The difference between IOC and FOC is more structural (Refueling pod) and weapon related. Even for the Bahrain air show, the flight envelop was expanded from 6 to 8G.
 
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Tejas wows Malaysia, but Pakistan & Korean jets still in the race
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What Group Captain Samrath Dhankar, the demo pilot of India’s indigenously-developed Tejas Mk 1, thought would be a touch and go on the fighter’s unique strengths, with the Malaysian PM, turned out to be longish and stimulating one. Dr Mahathir was specially drawn to the neatness of the cockpit and the intuitive layout. The discussion lasted for 10 mins, with Dhankar even adding a personal flavor by telling the PM he had been to Malaysia before, under a defence exchange programme.

These little personal stories, cultural affinities, historical connects, and high-profile, increased military exercises between the two nations, however, do not weigh in bigger than the one fact which most geo political and defence experts speak about, anonymously: and that is; Malaysia’s tilt towards Pakistan.

So, where does India’s locally-made fighter which got widely applauded for its agility and maneuverability at the LIMA show held last week of March, stand vis-à-vis Pakistan’s JF-17 and Korea’s FA-50 Golden Eagle?

Dhankar’s confidence comes from the fighter’s superior technology and its ability to be customized as per Malaysia’s requirements. Talking to Times of India at Langkawi’s LIMA flightline, Dhankar said, “The RMAF (Royal Malaysian Air Force) officials appeared really happy as the aircraft far exceeded their expectations. Clearly, we are not selling a product here but a capability in itself.”

Dhankar said, ‘The jet’s fly-by-wire capability, air-to-air refueling, the avionics that have been wonderfully-integrated and the open architecture computer systems, where both Russian and Western weaponry can be assimilated, are all unique and demarcates Tejas as a different generation fighter.”

Defence Attache in the Indian High Commission, Malaysia, Aniruddh Chauhan, who has been instrumental in bringing Tejas to LIMA 2019, added, “Both India and Malaysia share this common military strategy of using both Russian as well as NATO weapons systems and Tejas has been built to make it adaptable to both.”

Malaysia has planned a two-stage procurement and in this two-stage process, RMAF wants to fill up the entire gap from the lead in fighter trainer, up to the medium range combat aircraft (MRCA). India is past the RFI stage, which is Request for Information, followed by RFP (Request for Proposal) which will be carried out only after Pakistan and South Korea also clear the RFI.

It is interesting to note that HAL, considering Malaysian interest in Tejas, gave out a little more elaborate information than required, for RFI stage, but lower than RFP round.

Pakistan’s JF-17, which is built on Chinese design and technology, did not show up in LIMA. Meanwhile pro-Pakistan media plugs seemed to have taken over the narrative here, after Tejas’s impressive show, claiming Malaysia would buy two JF-17 for ‘evaluation.’

Mr Dzirhan Mahadzir, a seasoned freelance writer on defence matters and geo-political issues in South East Asia, debunks this claim. “No fighter jets are purchased only for evaluation.”

Talking about both India and Pakistan’s aggressive bidding, Mahadzir said while India is reportedly dealing on a strict government to government basis, lobbyists for Pakistan are at work to get the nod for JF-17.

Capt (Rtd) Martin A Sebastian, Senior Fellow and Centre Head, Centre for Maritime Security and Diplomacy, Malaysia, said, “The advantage with Tejas is there’s scope for not just transfer of India’s indigenous technology but also transform; this deal, if comes through, can help identify and build Malaysia’s own indigenous capacity in defence production.”

Tejas wows Malaysia, but Pakistan & Korean jets still in the race
 
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Malaysian competition will be a genuine chance for LCA. It doesn't matter whether LCA wins it or looses it, but a good effort is required from HAL to present it against its rivals. A very good chance for LCA to gain some market and for HAL to run its factory.
Strong point for LCA against it's rivals are :
1. weapon integration from western, Russian, Israel & India.
2. technical specification is superior compared to rivals.
3. chance to work closely with IAF and integrate the fleet with Sukhois.

Weak points
1. HAL's previous poor record of support.
2. Price is costlier compared to JF-17, Chinese will be aggressive here.
3. Delivery schedule delay.
4. Prone to western sanction. e.g. engine.
 
Malaysian competition will be a genuine chance for LCA. It doesn't matter whether LCA wins it or looses it, but a good effort is required from HAL to present it against its rivals. A very good chance for LCA to gain some market and for HAL to run its factory.
Strong point for LCA against it's rivals are :
1. weapon integration from western, Russian, Israel & India.
2. technical specification is superior compared to rivals.
3. chance to work closely with IAF and integrate the fleet with Sukhois.

Weak points
1. HAL's previous poor record of support.
2. Price is costlier compared to JF-17, Chinese will be aggressive here.
3. Delivery schedule delay.
4. Prone to western sanction. e.g. engine.
Anything Israeli will be a problem in Malaysia.

Means untill ADA/HAL gets a new radar (or gets ipr of the radar to sell it to 3rd parties), gets a R77 certified, gets its canon certified, gets the twin seater FOC.....

I see FA50 getting this deal if Malaysia indeed has money, or it will go down like the Mig29 replacement plan of Malaysia.
 
Anything Israeli will be a problem in Malaysia.

Means untill ADA/HAL gets a new radar (or gets ipr of the radar to sell it to 3rd parties), gets a R77 certified, gets its canon certified, gets the twin seater FOC.....

I see FA50 getting this deal if Malaysia indeed has money, or it will go down like the Mig29 replacement plan of Malaysia.

HAL issued RFI to 3 competitors , Thales and Swedes also responded with solutions.

We can pick those as alternative.
 
HAL issued RFI to 3 competitors , Thales and Swedes also responded with solutions.

We can pick those as alternative.
Not that simple. Anything new picked up will need to be integrated and tested.

We have yet not been able to integrate R77 and Python 5 on Lca. Lots of work needs to be done.
 
Not that simple. Anything new picked up will need to be integrated and tested.

We have yet not been able to integrate R77 and Python 5 on Lca. Lots of work needs to be done.

I don't know of any plan to integrate R-77 on LCA. But Derby has been integrated. R-73 also. Python V will not be integrated, instead ASRAAM will be. So Derby and ASRAAM will be part of the LCA. Followed by Astra.

As for Malaysia, they have no need of AESA apparently, they are fine with the current radar. So all we have to do is integrate Astra and ASRAAM, and we are set for Malaysia. Of course, we may need to integrate the Damocles pod, perhaps Sniper, 'cause Litening is going to be a no-go. Of course, we have an indigenous LDP meant specifically for LCA, which is the most likely go-to LDP pod. And then, the Malaysians are comfortable with French EW.

We most definitely need a non-Israeli based LCA if we are to target the Middle East and other Muslim countries like Indonesia. So you can bet one such configuration is already planned for the Mk1A.
 
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I don't know of any plan to integrate R-77 on LCA. But Derby has been integrated. R-73 also. Python V will not be integrated, instead ASRAAM will be. So Derby and ASRAAM will be part of the LCA. Followed by Astra.

As for Malaysia, they have no need of AESA apparently, they are fine with the current radar. So all we have to do is integrate Astra and ASRAAM, and we are set for Malaysia. Of course, we may need to integrate the Damocles pod, perhaps Sniper, 'cause Litening is going to be a no-go. Of course, we have an indigenous LDP meant specifically for LCA, which is the most likely go-to LDP pod. And then, the Malaysians are comfortable with French EW.

We most definitely need a non-Israeli based LCA if we are to target the Middle East and other Muslim countries like Indonesia. So you can bet one such configuration is already planned for the Mk1A.


Derby & Astra Mk1 got same range, is it?