This is a question which you should not have asked after witnessing what we did and how, in Balakot.
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I would like to answer the second part of your question first, sir.
If they starts a war then I will do all I could to support the war effort of our country.
And coming to your first part, yes they have a clear superiority. I would like to suggest to you read about Chinese Assassin's mace program and it's impact on pentagon's wargame simulation against China.
Chinese were in the loop.
So the Chinese have been silent spectators to the fact that we have been thrashing the Pak Army since last year
I think this is.the.best time for an escalation
The entire international community will support us , Entire South East Asia will
Go for a formal.Military.alliance against
China
Every East Asian country hates them
And US is already.itching.for a showdown with.China
We can.enter.into.a.bilateral.agreement with US
This " Dushmani " should Now become open and violent
Trump.will announce that.he.is.sending.
One Squadron of F 15s to India
Let China be seen as the Enemy of the Entire world -- first through.Corona
And then.through Armed Conflict
I completely agree with your second part of statement sir hence no contention on that.
I just wanted to be completely sure that we could win this war on our own. Since Vstol sir has not taken the PLA's Rocket force and Strategic force into account in his analysis hence I asked him. Of course with whole world United we can easily negate any advantage that PRC has
vis -a- vis us.
As for the first, I have only talked about Balakot. Chinese were heavily pressurised by other powers to stay silent and let India take her revenge.
Ladakh Standoffs Continue as India-China Search for Solution
India and China continue to talk at multiple levels to resolve the current dustup along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in Ladakh even as troops from either side are in eye-to-eyeball positions at le
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If we really want China and US to take us seriously , then we will have to take
Initiative
It will have Multiple benefits
First China will realise its limits
And US will realise that India is Not afraid of a Real Conflict with China
Right now US analysts are always saying
That India tries to avoid a showdown wih China
So that prevents a Deeper alliance with US because US wants somebody who will fight when the time Comes
Like UK and France do
I would differ here. US wants a conflict with China. If we take the initiative then we will loose all the bargaining chip that we would have if US initiates a war with China and asks us to help it. That is why US offered unasked support in this standoff. There are talks too that US is fuelling the tension. Hence we should not go for it. Remaining firm in our position will send required message to both China and US. All we have to do is to wait for a couple of months till US have enough military presence to start a conflict in SCS.
Then we will get all we have ever wanted. A disintegrated China and a trade deal favourable for us. We must understand that our next adversary is going to be USA itself.
OH MY GOD
Are you for Real
Here we are busy handling.2.enemies
We have fcuked up our economy with
A lockdown that we dont know how.to exit from
We cannot give food and transport to Poor.people who.are.walking in the.Summer
Let us know our Realities
And enter.into an alliance with US
Indian manpower and US technology will make.the Chinese bend
Only US can help us in taming BOTH
China and Pakistan
China will only get more aggressive
From.Here onwards
Please try to see the things from USA's perspective. All they want is complete global domination. First they destroyed USSR with the help of Chinese and now they will destroy China with the help of us. After that only we would be the power remaining to challenge them. Hence they will come for us. I am not asking to go for a direct conflict with US, but only to be wary of them. Present circumstances provides a lifetime opportunity we must optimally utilize them in our interests.OH MY GOD
Are you for Real
Here we are busy handling.2.enemies
We have fcuked up our economy with
A lockdown that we dont know how.to exit from
We cannot give food and transport to Poor.people who.are.walking in the.Summer
Let us know our Realities
And enter.into an alliance with US
Indian manpower and US technology will make.the Chinese bend
Only US can help us in taming BOTH
China and Pakistan
China will only get more aggressive
From.Here onwards
Here is Snehesh Alex Phillips confirming what is increasingly clear.. that far from Ajai Shukla's wetdream of 5000 chinese troops on the Indian side of Galwan valley.. there are actually no chinese camps in Galwan valley..
theprint.in
Chinese troops challenge India at multiple locations in eastern Ladakh, standoff continues
The Chinese troops crossed 3 km into what India perceives to be its territory South East of the Galwan Valley in eastern Ladakh.
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This was expected.
Few days ago when India was preparing for WHO confrontation with China I was probably alone here who said that China is weak this time, isolated, looking for partners. We should make use of it and get few things done but lot of fanboys here got offended that how can a super power India talk to a petty power like China?
Seems like Indian establishment too felt it was time to put China in place and rise and shine, maybe because of encouragement of US or to feel like a strong power or whatever was the reason they thought.
We cant even create a nuisance at WHO and got a problem at our border as expected. 2 minutes silence for whoever thought that US actually wanted Taiwan in WHO, they wanted to deliver a message instead of hurting them and they did that, rest all letters and speeches are showmanship for gullible public.
Wait before China give concessions for US and nothing but headache to their mindless supporters.
I am sure Army is more than capable of answering them militarily but that's the best we will get out of Covid opportunity, in short we wasted a crisis out of sheer stupidity which was very much expected.
Where are those motor mouth ministers btw? They knew everything before now when Indians are harassed in India by Chinese they are somehow trying to spin things. These statements feels like saying "Kuch nhi hua, kuch nhi hua, dosti mai to itna sab chalta hai, ye to girne se chot lagi thi, kisi ne mara nhi hai".
Few days ago when India was preparing for WHO confrontation with China I was probably alone here who said that China is weak this time, isolated, looking for partners. We should make use of it and get few things done but lot of fanboys here got offended that how can a super power India talk to a petty power like China?
Seems like Indian establishment too felt it was time to put China in place and rise and shine, maybe because of encouragement of US or to feel like a strong power or whatever was the reason they thought.
We cant even create a nuisance at WHO and got a problem at our border as expected. 2 minutes silence for whoever thought that US actually wanted Taiwan in WHO, they wanted to deliver a message instead of hurting them and they did that, rest all letters and speeches are showmanship for gullible public.
Wait before China give concessions for US and nothing but headache to their mindless supporters.
I am sure Army is more than capable of answering them militarily but that's the best we will get out of Covid opportunity, in short we wasted a crisis out of sheer stupidity which was very much expected.
Where are those motor mouth ministers btw? They knew everything before now when Indians are harassed in India by Chinese they are somehow trying to spin things. These statements feels like saying "Kuch nhi hua, kuch nhi hua, dosti mai to itna sab chalta hai, ye to girne se chot lagi thi, kisi ne mara nhi hai".
This incident started way before May 2020 . By that I'm referring to the planning & execution. The first incidents may have been reported now in the past 4-5 days but like in Doklam they occured around the 5-7th of May.All that talk of cornering China in WHO by inducting Taiwan is not even a month old.
Chinese Troops entered India about a week back, these transgressions are not new and happen almost everyday but this time they stayed there, just to harass India.
Indian minster traced origin of virus as a lab about 2 weeks ago.
Two-front trouble: Pakistan’s terror tactics continue; PLA crosses LAC in Naku La
Latest intelligence reports speak of terrorists gathering near the Line of Control and preparing to infiltrate into India.
Check the dates.
Check the place, that's Sikkim transgression not this one.Two-front trouble: Pakistan’s terror tactics continue; PLA crosses LAC in Naku La
Latest intelligence reports speak of terrorists gathering near the Line of Control and preparing to infiltrate into India.www.timesnownews.com
Check the dates.
These transgressions happen almost everyday, do they decide to harass Indians, put up tents and call reinforcements in Sikkim or other?
There were over 600 transgressions last year (I think toi reported it) you can pick any before Gadkari statment and justify that it's not related to it.
I just wanted to make sure you guys keep a few things in mind.
1) for the good part of 70 years, most of this area was left under developed (our side of LAC), worse, this was under a "kashmiri" govt and not Indian central govt.
2) when 370 was removed, the area was split into 2 regions and under central govt. now you know why a direct central govt control has been a forethought since a while.
1) for the good part of 70 years, most of this area was left under developed (our side of LAC), worse, this was under a "kashmiri" govt and not Indian central govt.
2) when 370 was removed, the area was split into 2 regions and under central govt. now you know why a direct central govt control has been a forethought since a while.
That these incidents saw an uptick is probably one reason the Government chose to respond the way it did. That's one impression I get about this whole incident. To that can be added the fact that since we've upgraded infrastructure right across the LAC, the PLA is miffed particularly in the Ladakh sector as their plan of salami slicing that they've been upto for the past 2 decades will now not go unchallenged. That's another of my impression. The third point is that in some ways this is pay back for Doklam.
In any case I doubt the IA or the GoI is surprised by the behavior of the Chinese . It was always expected. The only question was when not even where as Ladakh is the only region they're desperately eyeing. The others are more of a red herring meant as a bargaining chip. My last point remains that the IA under Gen Rawat released a statement immediately after the Doklam crisis ended stating that this was the new normal & that we should be expecting more of this in the days months & years to come. In the event he wasn't wrong.
You are crazy , it is India which desperately needs US , not the other way round
Even Russia will never antagonise China in a India-- China conflict
And sooner or later the Entire OIC will try to put more pressure on India regarding Kashmir and CAA
OIC will see that India has weakened its economy so now it can be coerced
No country whether it is US or Russia or Europe or Japan is culturally or Civilisationally our Friend
We can only enter into Power Driven Alliances where what is seen
Is " What do you bring to the Table "
US Japan alliance is strong because it
Is an Explicit Military Alliance
We need something like that for.our 2 front problem
We are doing it without any challenge or even a protest from China here are few big ones in past few months.
In same area last October-
Same area last December-
Indian Army builds Asia’s highest bridge at 16k ft above sea level along LAC
The construction of the bridge makes the delivery of necessary goods and weapons, to the Indian troops stationed at the border, easier.
Arunachal, a month back -
Border Roads Organisation constructs strategic bridge in Arunachal Pradesh - The Economic Times
The Border Roads Organisation (BRO) constructed a 430 feet long bailey bridge at Daporijo over the Subansiri river in Arunachal Pradeshs Upper Subansiri district.
If you google properly you will find more. That couldn't definitely be a reason.
Thats one of the reason too but why now? A lot more has happened and happening after Doklam but they didn't care or protested. Don't you think our WHO adventure could be the trigger for this and for Nepal maps too?
So we should not ask what did that WHO thing achieved? What was our backup or rational or we expected to achieve by it? Even in best case it would not have damaged China a bit and we know China will try it's best to hurt us, so why this decision?
Or every failure is prohibited to be questioned in name of national security?