If those tents and fortification are indeed Indian, then it is so close that Indian soldiers can actually and literally SLAP Chinese soldiers there.
Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates
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you are more inclined to believe:
1) the chinese incursion
2) IA hs no ammo (even for one day)
but you are NOT inclined to believe
1) our forces can manage this easily
2) this build up is by India and not china
even though we have no real info on either.
it only shows what you want to believe.
he did say "eyeball to eyeball" lol
when you lack information, you should say you lack information.
you shouldnt pass off your "opinion" as "information".
there was a 11 hour marathon meeting between ind-china generals - we dont know the outcome of that.
for all your know, chinese AI and deepfakes could be behind these satellite imagery.
India is a democracy, sooner or later the truth will come out. much earlier than the chinese regime for sure.
I am not sure sir but there was a chatter that Chinese are trying to disrupt our supplies by putting pressure on Russia.
This part I never said. Though from the tweets by @Falcon I don't believe the "easy" part. This is not an easy conflict.
No, from the evidence we have seen, I am doubtful that these are Indian deployments.
There was a post on facebook by People's Daily urging a Russian Think Tank to help de-escalate crisis in Asia by NOT providing supplies to India. Their words not mine.
If I were Chinese, my fear would not be Tibet. It would be Xinjiang. If India manages to get back the GB area and PoK from China, then we share a border with Xinjiang. Unlike Tibet, this region has a population which can be incited by us to violence. And this is the fear China has.
A war with China is inevitable. If not now, few years down the line. It is in our interests to ensure the Quad succeeds. More so, post the events of the past 2 months. An Asian NATO. The Indo-Pacific Treaty Organisation.
India has no road accessing that Galwan area where trucks can go to carry material. Only small track for patrolling. So they can't construct that much. More over there is a place Zo La in Sikkim, tracking area comes after Nathu La, if you watch the chinese side from there you can see blue or red roofs similar to what you are seeing in photos.
There is a reason why Rajnath ji rushed to Moscow.
Edit: But I forgot to mention that at many places in Sikkim the Indian army has red roof as well just like you see in the photo. The only reason why they are chinese structure is because I don't see any connectivity towards Indian side so how are they built. That's my doubt.
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You can read it in multiple ways. All deals will be fulfilled. New deals are off the table. Deliveries will be as per schedule, not expediated. Too many interpretations can be made.
There is NO additional information ANY one of us has here barring professionals like @Falcon @vstol Jockey. So, it is quite evident that there is a lack of information also given terse communication from South Block.
ALL of my posts are my opinions only. LOL! Do I need to now say that explicitly?
Sorry, if I have said that. Lemme be explicit. I DO NOT WORK FOR SOUTH BLOCK. I am not a part of IA or IN or IAF or IB or RAW etc. There I said that explicitly.
When we get information like satellite images, that is quite evident.
No comments. Indeed there was no information shared in public.
Thats hard actually. Why? Many of these sat images are coming from Planetlabs and GeoEye-2 sat and can be cross verified with some cost. I am actually working to get access to PlanetLabs so we will have an independent source and much larger view.
I am surprised that some members still think that structures in PT14 is Indian. They are undeniably Chinese fortifications.
1) Defensive walls are facing Indian side. Chinese side of the base of open and even have a road. No army will shut down its retreat/supply line while keeping enemy face wide open for attack
2)Its on the other bank of the river, again if its Indian, we will have our back against a river whose water flow is controlled by Chinese. Something not anyone with a brain will do. If we built the fortifications, we would have built in the other bank of the river which is accessible to Indian vehicles. Also, river will be a natural obstruction to any chines assault.
3) Chinese already have heavy machines and diggers few 100 meters above for at-least 2 weeks, evident from old satellite pictures.
4)All Chinese tents are pink tents which IA do not use.
1) Defensive walls are facing Indian side. Chinese side of the base of open and even have a road. No army will shut down its retreat/supply line while keeping enemy face wide open for attack
2)Its on the other bank of the river, again if its Indian, we will have our back against a river whose water flow is controlled by Chinese. Something not anyone with a brain will do. If we built the fortifications, we would have built in the other bank of the river which is accessible to Indian vehicles. Also, river will be a natural obstruction to any chines assault.
3) Chinese already have heavy machines and diggers few 100 meters above for at-least 2 weeks, evident from old satellite pictures.
4)All Chinese tents are pink tents which IA do not use.
Well, India will have to pick a camp. Don't know how will it work. Will it be China specific camp or left open to other threats. If it is indeed then we will find it hard to join. You don't want to fight Russia if US picks a fight with them.
Oh no Sir, Modi will never back down and if the Chinese don't listen, by God he will gather all his fury and ire and ask them again.
Heaven protect those audacious interlopers from the wrath of the commander in chief. They do not know his white hot rage that will crash into them and force them to hold very lengthy discussions again and again. I pity the poor *censored*s, I do. They'd much rather face lead than live through the shame of Mr. Modi's strong, strong condemnations.
Modi is sitting silent right now. Dare I say, rightly so. That said, when he opened his mouth for once, it was more for his political advantage and less for anything else.
Right now this crisis is being managed by Foreign Ministry on diplomatic side.
South Block is having lunch and dabbas are fully open. No one did a damn thing during entire May and now in June too. In july they will run like headless chickens again for more emergency supplies. Wonder if Dabba-Babus have some kind of summer holidays.
can we put the political bickering aside atleast during this time? you can do all your "modi Stronk" jokes once we are past this headache.
Yes, we must not hold our commander in chief accountable when the Chinese want to steal the table he invited them to sup on and on their way blame us for not providing enough mutton.
Neheru hoisted himself with his own petard, and the silly goat is rightly admonished so. Same will be done for Modi's faults. I did not mention BJP did I? I mentioned our leader, chosen by the people. If that is political bickering, I'm afraid the only non political bit in this whole mess are the two armies (actually one, the other has political commissars). Would you like me to blame the Indian armies instead?
I'm afraid the only way to get Mr. Modi's immovable attention from his singular, admirable focus from domestic political machinations is to roast his proverbial nuts on the fire. It saddens me, oh so much, to tear him away from the corridors of power he so adores, but like they say, a pair roasted in time, saves nine (hundred and ninety nine million +lose change).
you should hold everyone accountable. but that has a time and place. using the skirmish happening right now to score political points only shows our divided state to the enemy.
as of now, I would hope people will support their armed forces And yes that includes the supreme commander, the DM, EAM, etc).
they also know that if they fail, they will be roasted.
but do they need to be roasted right now when they are already facing fire from external threats? can we give them support to counter that threat? at least that much we can do?
This is the building right on Nathu La, yes? Then I'm afraid the situation is a bit different. It's a formal gate/immigration point. I actually have a picture of it.
[Actually, I'm removing the image here since I don't know if it's alright to post it. It has like loads of tourists, so that's not secretive. But, still. I'll post of a mod gives me okay]
The small green-brown camo polycarb sheet at the bottom is how most of the IA structures look, and a flat green.
And this is just the gate, nothing sensitive so don't go flipping on me. Those are milling tourists, so no sensitive info there.