Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

randomradio said:
He is wrong. By not releasing the goods, the govt is protecting the retailers. The retailers can sell other phones instead. Worst case for them is nobody may end up buying their Chinese goods.

The goods stuck at customs belong to the Chinese companies. They can only make a profit if they sell it first. But if the retailers do not get their hands on goods to sell, then it's the Chinese who are stuck. I don't think the goods are prepaid by Indian retailers.
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Total miscalculation, Chinese can hurt you the same.
Yesterday, less than 48 hours later, the Chinese responded.
The Customs authorities in Hong Kong and China, in apparently a blow-for-blow measure, have held back some consignments of Indian exports after ports in India took up the task of inspecting Chinese products, the Federation of Indian Export Organisations (FIEO) has told the government.

The FIEO on Thursday reiterated that the Customs authorities at several ports in India had ordered a sudden examination of Chinese consignments without any official word from the government, and this may have led to the Chinese retribution.

Indian exporters raise concerns of tit-for-tat measures by Chinese side, Business Standard

The FIEO, which is an Indian trade lobby, is the one feeling the pain. It’s president, Sharad Kumar Saraf, wrote a letter urging the Indian government to consider all ramifications before embarking on such inspections. He even suggested an alternative.
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Tatvamasi said:
'Nationalist', who want to spill blood of millions of indians for some small piece of uninhabitable land. For what ? Some made up definition of 'izzat'.

If only they had the same vigour to uplift ~20% of indians still living in extreme poverty.

Remember Chinese nationalists had the foresight to keep quiet till they eradicated the 'three times meal and basic education' problem.
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Leftist , who neither have any vigour nor any plans to uplift 20% Indians out poverty , will always be the first one to give gyan about poverty . Btw, you guys have any plans to extend this amazing logic to other fields ? I mean .........something on the lines of

"Why India need Rafale when we have ~20% of indians still living in extreme poverty".
"Why India need space research when we have ~20% of indians still living in extreme poverty".
"Why India need nuclear research when we have ~20% of indians still living in extreme poverty".
"Why India need bullet trains when we have ~20% of indians still living in extreme poverty".
 
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noksss said:
Leftist , who neither have any vigour nor any plans to uplift 20% Indians out poverty , will always be the first one to give gyan about poverty . Btw, you guys have any plans to extend this amazing logic to other fields ? I mean .........something on the lines of

"Why India need Rafale when we have ~20% of indians still living in extreme poverty".
"Why India need space research when we have ~20% of indians still living in extreme poverty".
"Why India need nuclear research when we have ~20% of indians still living in extreme poverty".
"Why India need bullet trains when we have ~20% of indians still living in extreme poverty".
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Yeah going for war to conquer Tibet which will kill millions of indians is same as buying a fighter.

jetray said:
we are not warmongering we are defending to aggression, keeping quiet would mean acceptance and they will sever kashmir / northeast. Then u will have less poor ppl to uplift and lot of curses from ppl who get occupied. Calling it uninhabitable land is just sheer stupidity not every inch of land is occupied in any country.
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I was replying to a warmonger. I was saying choose your battles carefully not to give away territory.

Buy time to become comparable in economic strength to adversary then negotiate/engage in a position of relative strength.
 
Tatvamasi said:
Yeah going for war to conquer Tibet which will kill millions of indians is same as buying a fighter.


I was replying to a warmonger. I was saying choose your battles carefully not to give away territory.

Buy time to become comparable in economic strength to adversary then negotiate/engage in a position of relative strength.
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Going for war when you have no option left should be done even if you have 80% of Indians under poverty .
 
Jaymax said:
People are lining up to buy Mi/ One plus Phones. Technically even iPhones are built in China but a Chinese owned firm means all profits go to Chinese rather than just a portion.
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fake news. maybe some sullas buying them but dont fall for it and get one for yourself.
 
_Anonymous_ said:
It's clear he's siding with the retailers, isn't it & he has a point. Most of the small retailers would have paid up at sight vide TT & I'm not referring to cell phones but knick knacks - items of daily usage which till date constitute the bulk of imports from China. Those companies you talk about have assembly shops here. Most of the components & sub assemblys are imported.
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It's likely most payment terms will be generous to the retailers rather than the importers.
 
screambowl said:
But then Chinese will be doing the same to IAF as well, it's the both sides which will lure eachother. Disinformation on twitter is in full swing, some say HQ9 is deployed by China and not s400, why would China deploy HQ9 and not S400? Or they have kept is specifically for their eastern theater?
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Yes. Which is why I think we should go to war only after we are actually prepared.

If the Chinese don't plan on withdrawing, then the 'talks' can go on for years if necessary.

Dunno about the S-400 story. I don't think it matters as much, it's difficult to use long range SAMs in mountains, it's the quick reaction SAMs that will pose real problems.
 
randomradio said:
It's likely most payment terms will be generous to the retailers rather than the importers.
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The Chinese usually deal only in advance. You've got to be a real big consumer of their goods on a regular basis to claim credit. It's very rare believe me & then too rarely over a month.
 
_Anonymous_ said:
The Chinese usually deal only in advance. You've got to be a real big consumer of their goods on a regular basis to claim credit. It's very rare believe me & then too rarely over a month.
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So it doesn't work in the favour of retailers if they have already paid for the goods. Then it's nothing but posturing by the govt.
 
randomradio said:
He is wrong. By not releasing the goods, the govt is protecting the retailers. The retailers can sell other phones instead. Worst case for them is nobody may end up buying their Chinese goods.

The goods stuck at customs belong to the Chinese companies. They can only make a profit if they sell it first. But if the retailers do not get their hands on goods to sell, then it's the Chinese who are stuck. I don't think the goods are prepaid by Indian retailers.
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Depending upon terms of import, mostly by opening LCs. So the terms of such contracts matter.
 
Jaymax said:
Seriously ? Go check the availability of Mi and One Plus phones.

I moved away from Chinese goods long back
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China has paid those portals to do such PR stunts. They are way ahead on thsese matters than most Indians can think. So dont panic and fall for this and end up buying a chinese fone.
 
shaxm said:
China has paid those portals to do such PR stunts. They are way ahead on thsese matters than most Indians can think. So dont panic and fall for this and end up buying a chinese fone.
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Indian e-commerce sites don’t operate under Chinese influence.
I’d say you are preaching to the choir but I have already made the point a few times.
 
vstol Jockey said:
Chinese created a diversion in Galwan Valley and Depsang but they bult permanent fortifications in F4. Their main aim is Chusul and Chumar. For that they must mover forward on Pangong Tso and spanggor Tso. They are doing exactly that.
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Can they get their artillery south of the lake ?
 
screambowl said:
Point is you need it now not after 4-5 years which is average time for India to upgrade their defence systems. The things are escalating now amid covid19.
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We were talking about 2/3 years down the line as the OP inquired what will change in 3 years. I don't understand why you would talk about the present when the question had a specified time frame.
 
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