LOL 'Breakthrough'!
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@Falcon How do you folks even agree to serve under these loser 'crats and 'ticians... Dabba wallahz and PMs?
Why you always keep ranting about "dabbas and politician"??
And what is so special about the
@Falcon that he can't serve under them, both are part of the society . People in armed forces too come from the society and have the same moral compass.
Do you think that Indian military is unblemished??
1) a military which can't even decide which caliber rifle to be purchased and set a requirements which entire world failed to meet.
2) all those support for the Russian tin can even at the expense of desi industry
3) obsolescence by trial
4) army which had the Aircraft carrier but not the winter clothes in 62 war, was that also prioritised by the political class??
5) army which has the budget more than the entire budget of Pakistan yet says "out ranged by the AMrAam".
6) IAf which has a budget more than the defense budget of PAF, yet couldn't deliver a spectacular all out victory in any war be it 62,65,71 or a limited but shoddy at best balakot.
7) if you continues to raise question about the balakot it simple means IAF failed to convince you not the prime minister .
What quality had the generals like BM kaul, Deepak kapoor, JJ singh,VP malik etc to be qualified as a role model.
It is infact politician who has covered the posterior of Indian military many a times.
You can criticise Nehru all you want but he ensured we claim the border, which barring akshai chin is still more or less part of LAC. If left to the army LAC would have been substantially different.
If army was in bad shape in 62 wasn't it the responsibility of the generals to apprise him of the situation??
Was it Nehru who was on the ground making strategies or were the generals??
When army simply folded up and you think the politician should have faith in them. Nehru's immediate demand for usaf personnel along with their fighters should indicate his faith in the army during that time. If army top brass had simply told the prime minister bluntly that they are in a pathetic condition and can't face the Chinese Army do you think any sane politician would have given go ahead?
In 65 it was the shastri who had the audacity to open Punjab front. Why he was forced to open that front??
The reason being sub optimal performance of Indian Army on loc.
wasn't indian army caught napping in kargil and it was the Vajpayee who put all his political capital on the line to cover the failure. modi also didn't escalated after 27 feb ,may be he was less than impressed by the performance of IAF.
the only significant achievement of Indian Army in all out war was in Bangladesh and that too with the support of mukti bahini.
and after listing all this I want to simply ask how many generals have been held responsible and been punished??
in Israel a lot of generals were removed after 6 day war.
infact in India military has been never scrutinised and they have been always placed above the pedestal. it's always the political class who has suffered on account of incompetence of military in the face of electoral setback.
and what your grudge about bureaucracy, they have their shortcomings but is their any organ of the government /society which can claim that they are perfect? like any other organs of the states they too have fair share of success and failure.
so if you want to rant, keep it to minimum, no body wants to read page after page the word like "dabbas and what not". Which sounds so repetitive and bereft of substance. We live in a democracy not under the boot of the military where people in the armed forces are any special, like political class army too represent the microcosm of Indian society with all its virtues and vice.
