Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

I am definitely not an expert in mountaineering. Those thrust vectors looks extremely unfeasible. I don't think mountain snowcaps allow any such movements. Most probably troops may have climbed to the dominating heights in finger 4 through the valley between finger 3 and 4. @Falcon ,any thoughts?
Nothing new here. They are now reporting what I had posted on 02 Sep itself. Please see post #6638.
 
Nothing new here. They are now reporting what I had posted on 02 Sep itself. Please see post #6638.

Is there any possibility China have drilled bunkers and tunnels into the hills? Is so they can safely stay there as long as they want and IA wont be able to do anything to them sitting on the top of the hills.
 
Nothing new here. They are now reporting what I had posted on 02 Sep itself. Please see post #6638.
It seems obvious that the IA hasn't been able to dominate features surrounding the Depsang plains which continue to be occupied by the Chinese. Falcon confirmed as much when he stated IA wasn't successful in everything it attempted on 29 - 30 Aug which is par for the course as one can't win all the time.

IA seems to have accomplished most of What it set out to achieve though the Depsang plains is vital for the defense of Leh & approach to Siachen if I'm not mistaken.What in your analysis would be the ramifications of this in the future?
 
Is there any possibility China have drilled bunkers and tunnels into the hills? Is so they can safely stay there as long as they want and IA wont be able to do anything to them sitting on the top of the hills.
If IA destroys routes for resupply then I guess army holed up in tunnels are basically dead. Isnt it?
 
depends on how much stock they have in the bunkers. and what if they have connected tunnel systems inside for their supplies?
Connected to where? These places are very remote. Plus its hard to make long tunnels in mountains. If they had such underground bases well connected, then they would not have been withdrawing in winters perhaps.
 
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Is there any possibility China have drilled bunkers and tunnels into the hills? Is so they can safely stay there as long as they want and IA wont be able to do anything to them sitting on the top of the hills.
Even if they build tunnels, how will they resupply if we cut off the supply routes?

It seems obvious that the IA hasn't been able to dominate features surrounding the Depsang plains which continue to be occupied by the Chinese. Falcon confirmed as much when he stated IA wasn't successful in everything it attempted on 29 - 30 Aug which is par for the course as one can't win all the time.
IA seems to have accomplished most of What it set out to achieve though the Depsang plains is vital for the defense of Leh & approach to Siachen if I'm not mistaken.What in your analysis would be the ramifications of this in the future?
Depsang is more of a plain and the movement across it can be easily detected unlike the higher reaches of the ridgelines we captured in PT ans ST areas and Kailash Range. But overall situation in Depsang is still well under control as we have massive armour advantage there.

Connected to where? These places are very remote. Plus its hard to make long tunnels in mountains. If they had such underground bases well connected, then they would not have been withdrawing in winters perhaps.
The satellite pictures very clearly show tents and dug in positions. so no chance of any tunnels being there. On 29/30 we went over the main ridgeline in north PT area to dominate upto F8 and now we have come down from the main ridgeline to secondary ridgeline which have the spurs F4 & F5 and dominated ground higher than the chinese. The area upto Khurnak fort is now directly under our domination.
 
I was reading sdf and even the biggest Chinese cheerleaders are having doubts about the Chinese aims in this conflict.

What's sdf?

The recent Indian initiative must have required a lot of planning and i want to compliment the soldiers at all level who are involved.
Today we will find out whether China had a serious target in mind ,which they still want to implement come what may or it was just a powerplay to distract from the Chinese virus with some minor gains on the ground as revenge for their humiliation in 2017.

Yeah, it feels like the Chinese were not prepared to go the whole hog when they started off, were merely posturing the entire time.
 
Is there any possibility China have drilled bunkers and tunnels into the hills? Is so they can safely stay there as long as they want and IA wont be able to do anything to them sitting on the top of the hills.

Then they would come under seige. Which means, no more supplies until a relief force comes to rescue them. Which means the relief force will have to fight the Indian troops to lift the seige, something which the force under seige could have done in the first place instead of burrowing into holes and cornering themselves.
 
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Depsang is more of a plain and the movement across it can be easily detected unlike the higher reaches of the ridgelines we captured in PT ans ST areas and Kailash Range. But overall situation in Depsang is still well under control as we have massive armour advantage there.

If armour is the main advantage, then wouldn't that mean the Chinese will simply bring in more armour and artillery to counter it? I don't think they have a real limit to the amount of armour they can bring to the party if they want to.
 
If armour is the main advantage, then wouldn't that mean the Chinese will simply bring in more armour and artillery to counter it? I don't think they have a real limit to the amount of armour they can bring to the party if they want to.
You are correct. In Depsang they have right kind of forces. They have a Mechanised division there which is good for that kind of terrain. In PT/Gogra/Hot springs and SE Aksai Hind, they have motorised divisions which are unfit for mountain warfare. We too have done a heavy deployment of armour and mech forces in Depsang but the route to depsang is via Gogra/Kangkala with a move towards north after a break thru from these areas. In one swift move we will be able to get to the rear of Galwan and Depsang or we break thru from Kongkala and use airborne forces in case of an all out war. Depsang is very crucial as it opens up DBO and Karakoram Pass to Chinese. I am sure that we have now already fortified Karakoram pass but Depsang needs to be defended at all cost. How ever high the cost may be.
Depsang is not a very big area and can not possibly accommodate more than a division of Mech forces and PLA already has one in place. Bringing more forces to Depsang will clutter up the area and make PLA a sitting duck as this will deny them mobility.
 

Tibet openly showing their support - sends the message loud and clear.
Really happy with this!!

You are correct. In Depsang they have right kind of forces. They have a Mechanised division there which is good for that kind of terrain. In PT/Gogra/Hot springs and SE Aksai Hind, they have motorised divisions which are unfit for mountain warfare. We too have done a heavy deployment of armour and mech forces in Depsang but the route to depsang is via Gogra/Kangkala with a move towards north after a break thru from these areas. In one swift move we will be able to get to the rear of Galwan and Depsang or we break thru from Kongkala and use airborne forces in case of an all out war. Depsang is very crucial as it opens up DBO and Karakoram Pass to Chinese. I am sure that we have now already fortified Karakoram pass but Depsang needs to be defended at all cost. How ever high the cost may be.
Depsang is not a very big area and can not possibly accommodate more than a division of Mech forces and PLA already has one in place. Bringing more forces to Depsang will clutter up the area and make PLA a sitting duck as this will deny them mobility.

Just a layman's observation & correct me if I am wrong -
We can hit them with our air assets as well. There is no restriction that we will have to use our mechs to counter theirs.
China's weak link there is their airforce. Given the details, it might turn out to be a mountain version of the battle Longewala.
IAF can wreak havoc once their SAM/AA units are taken care of.


 
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You are correct. In Depsang they have right kind of forces. They have a Mechanised division there which is good for that kind of terrain. In PT/Gogra/Hot springs and SE Aksai Hind, they have motorised divisions which are unfit for mountain warfare. We too have done a heavy deployment of armour and mech forces in Depsang but the route to depsang is via Gogra/Kangkala with a move towards north after a break thru from these areas. In one swift move we will be able to get to the rear of Galwan and Depsang or we break thru from Kongkala and use airborne forces in case of an all out war. Depsang is very crucial as it opens up DBO and Karakoram Pass to Chinese. I am sure that we have now already fortified Karakoram pass but Depsang needs to be defended at all cost. How ever high the cost may be.
Depsang is not a very big area and can not possibly accommodate more than a division of Mech forces and PLA already has one in place. Bringing more forces to Depsang will clutter up the area and make PLA a sitting duck as this will deny them mobility.

Sir, for idiots like me, can you show a map of current Chinese positions in depsang and what transgressions they made during this standoff?