Sir, what kind of negotiations do you foresee if we aren't vacating the positions we have taken over?
Because... The Chinese won't let those remain vacant if we remove ourselves.
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Because... The Chinese won't let those remain vacant if we remove ourselves.
The best option for us is to now have present status Quo going forward. No withdrawal from the tops which we have now taken over or dominate. The present situation has helped us reach our IB in southern Aksai Hind to a very large extent and also north of PT. PLA did salami slicing, now we have done the same. If we can avoid a war, we must and tire out PLA thru the winters. I am sure we will get opportunities in winters to go forward in Depsang area also and move to dominate areas deeper in Aksai Hind without firing a bullet. AND that should be our strategy.
Keeping door open for negotiations will help us continue with our policy of area domination without firing a bullet. It is in that context @Falcon posted about negotiations.
Negotiations will be to have present position as status quo going forward. It will be suicidal for us to now withdraw from any of the tops which we have occupied. We just can't trust China ever.
I don't know how he is considered credible. None of his claims have actually come true on ground. Either he is deliberately spreading misinformation or he does t know what really is going on. I have been seeing his tweets for the past one month and none of his claims are true and he seems to have no real understanding of what's going on. Even Abhijit Iyer Mitra has made more concrete claims than him. Panag and shukla have been more accurate than him. It's better you ignore stuff cited by this idiot. His casualty claims during galwan was also wrong better to ignore...
Also if you went on add did you read how they were comparing us to Vietnam of the 60's and how they are under the assumption that they will just wipeout IA once PLA decides to do it. It's quite funny that they are calling us cowards when the performance on ground shows otherwise.
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I doubt so. China's Industrial base is too strong. Soon they will come out with a solution for staying their troops at that elevation in winters and implement it in mass scale. Necessity is mother of all inventions, hell even India is now producing lakhs of PPE kits per month and a million test per day for Covid-19 from previously of almost zero. In game of tiring out, India will lose. Our deterrent should be violence that PLA troops really fear, atleast right now. Their new generation is after materialistic gains thanks to CCP propaganda machinery always boasting about economy and quality of life. Normal Chinese will absolutely detest battlefield filled with blood, human limbs and other hardships. Even Chinese complain that major factor for motivation and risk taking of IA is religion and their faith in God which they lack. They will attack when they overwhelm us because don't expect PLA troops to take last stand battles like Maj Shaitan singh or Longewala.
With current strategy of waiting we are grooming PLA to firm its ground in Himalayas. The longer they stay, the more solutions they will develop. We should give them a Jhatka treatment and make their misadventure as a psychological defeat that deeply scars them for decades. That should be our deterrent.
If I've understood the terrain correctly, then we cannot focus on chokepoints like in Chushul. The Chinese will have full access to the plains. So I suppose both sides are on even ground in the plains, and they have more depth in comparison.
The Ladakh Terrain is of No use once Artillery Shelling starts
That is when and where the Fighting
Skills and Stamina will.be tested
That is why the Chinese are apprehensive of starting a Real And Proper War
We may not necessarily have the weapons or the technology to perform such a mission reliably from the first day. The IAF will have to beat back Chinese Flankers and destroy their mobile ADS first, before dedicated anti-armour weapons can be used on Chinese formations.
Also this is a very high amount of escalation, which means we are effectively at war. Also, you can say that any Chinese attempt to push armoured formations into Indian territory may be seen as a declaration of war. So we may not even get to that point.
In the Depsang Plains, the PLAAF is going to be quite effective. The Chinese have two air bases, one of those is under construction, at pretty much the same altitude as Srinagar and Awantipore. So both of us have very similar handicaps. In fact Hotan is closer to Depsang than Srinagar. Our bases in Leh and Thoise are only good enough for air defence.
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So how do you kick them out from Depsang? That area already forms a major Chunk of Aksai Hind.
If just clothing could help in mountain warfare in winters, every tom, dick and harry would have been a specilist in high altitude mountain warfare. High altitude mountain warfare needs much more than just better clothing and shelter. Though they are also very important but not the only needs.
Yes. They do not have more depth but they do have better logistics and infrastructure in that area. They can rapidly resupply in that area while we have limited options. It is for this reason that in my 12th Aug post I had laid down certain conditions to take on PLA in Depsang and the reason to get behind them from the Galwan area after a breakthru from Gogra/Hot springs. Once you cut off their supplylines and threaten them from two sides, they will just give up the will to fight. It was for this reason that I had stated a holding battle till our IAF destroys vital supplylines and till we have a breakthru from Gogra/Hot springs area.
'China has received a setback'
'India is not the India of 1962. We are not carrying that baggage of history anymore.'
Yeah, I read. Also they think that we are doing this for our domestic audience. Also, if things go ugly, it will be us vs their armed drones.. lots of entertaining stuff there.
The obvious option is our armour and artillery decimates theirs in a direct face-off.
The main alternative is to get behind them using the mountains south of the plains and then hit their supply lines.
The secondary alternative is to escalate the war and bring in our air force in sufficient numbers.
Whatever case we choose, our armour should be up to the task, because even they can use all the same options. The better man will win.
Is it possible to take over Depsang in a stealth mode like what IA has been doing so far? Catching them unaware and outwitting them.
We should.wait till.Winter for Depsang
I would love to see their Tanks and Vehicles getting stranded in Snow
Unable.to start and move
Outflank them and Then attack them.with ATGMs and Artillery
Can't. Those are plains, easily visible to anyone.
