While I concur with your sentiments, as a military commander, I would hate you for putting forth a viewpoint which proposes virtually closes the path to peace through negotiations, when it is the lives of my men that I command, which is on line.
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While I concur with your sentiments, as a military commander, I would hate you for putting forth a viewpoint which proposes virtually closes the path to peace through negotiations, when it is the lives of my men that I command, which is on line.
I would not try to second guess our political leadership over the matter. But from what I see now, I doubt there is any negotiation except permanent occupation of loads of peaks and "demilitarization" of those features which neither side is able to occupy.
I rarely agree with Ajay Shukla....... But then i found this article quite interesting...... and Most probably what India is currently doing....
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Lessons from the Yom Kippur war
I would not try to second guess our political leadership over the matter. But from what I see now, I doubt there is any negotiation except permanent occupation of loads of peaks and "demilitarization" of those features which neither side is able to occupy.
But then what will be the De escalation looking like , if thousands of soldiers are still on the peaks
We have asked them to remove All the Extra soldiers inducted after May
Lives of the men that you command will always be on the line till we fight it off and finish it off for good either now or 1 year later or 2 year later. This is inevitable. "Peace through negotiations" with these chipmunks will never be permanent, we all know that.While I concur with your sentiments, as a military commander, I would hate you for putting forth a viewpoint which proposes virtually closes the path to peace through negotiations, when it is the lives of my men that I command, which is on line.
Its not just communists all the brain washed idiots do the same from maoists to terrorists in kashmir its no different. Quite often problem is more with ourselves instead of calling a spade a spade we just beat around the bush until it blows all over the place.
While I concur with your sentiments, as a military commander, I would hate you for putting forth a viewpoint which proposes virtually closes the path to peace through negotiations, when it is the lives of my men that I command, which is on line.
As a military commander, do you see any scope of handling China peacefully? Given the modus operandi of China, and history of their behaviour it is in my opinion naive to simply trust China that even if this is solved peacefully, they won't come back to repeat the same scenario again at a time and place of their choice. So, is it the long-term goal or the short-term goal which gets the priority from military perspective?
So, I marked visible military bases/structures in depsang plain and immediate neighborhood in this map. Blue ones are Indian Army, red ones seems Chinese and the yellow ones I am not sure. Actually the yellow ones also looks Indian since there is no Roads connecting them to the North or to any other chinese base, only roads/tracts connected are to westwards to DBO. Chinese bases are in the other side of the Chip chap river opposite to "Structure 5" (PLA 4)
So in case of a conflict we should be expecting an attack from PLA1, PLA2 to BSDBO road (near IA1) , to cut off all our forces to the north?
Also any one have any idea which region peoples are talking about when they say, PLA occupied some positions in depsang after May?
Its not *Any* kind of casualty. Its casualty among YOUNG SOLDIERS (20-25 years mostly). They are NOT 1.4 billion, actually they are way less. They are much harder to replace these days. Look at the profile of the guy who is burried in Kangxiwang (or whatever it is called). Born in 2000 or 2001. Its these casualties that hurts china a hell lot more than India. Almost certainly, only son and child of the family. Each such soldier you kill, you destroy one entire bloodline and family guaranteed, they have no siblings. And PLA also has competition to recruit these folks, factories need them too. There is a reason why Xi hides their casualty and restricts their family from greving publically.
You don't need to "estimate", we know their reality.
No one throws a resource that is economically useful, hard to replace and is politically sensitive. Young soldiers are all three of them in China now. Its not about anything, its about hard facts when it comes to China. Chinese leadership is very rational.
Well, when USA and USSR were at collusion course during 60s cuban missile crisis, diplomacy was still ongoing. Negotiations were on all the time. I support such posture.While I concur with your sentiments, as a military commander, I would hate you for putting forth a viewpoint which proposes virtually closes the path to peace through negotiations, when it is the lives of my men that I command, which is on line.
I hate a very different kind of behavior of our government; that of chronic, absolute and total incompetence.
Why do we have to do an emergency purchase each time someone looks at us in a less than friendly gaze? Why our ammunitions stores are always empty? Why our forces are always caught with their pants down when it comes to deployment, equipment and resupply? Why do we always fly worthless platforms like Su-30 with outdate missiles? Why is our approach always reactionary? We are we always on defence? Why do our bombs always miss their targets? Why do our support for "non-state actors" behind the enemy lines are inadequate? Why are we never able to support militancy in our enemies?
Anyways, its a rehash. I have been belabouring it for too long now.
This kind of logic I hear mostly from commie bongs when they are deeply engrossed in peddling their agenda. Currently China is only rational enough to open its military on all fronts, India Vietnam, scs, Hong Kong you name it. Communism needs blood, even if it's of its own kin. And if you are into such things you can search about the occult origins of Communism.
And currently there is a big power tussle going on within the communists in China, they are all after each other blood. So don't expect any more rationality, it's gona get worse with time.
Could recommend Any good stuff online about occultism in communism?? I thought only Nazis were involved in occultism. And those globalists type of people...
As a civilian I would hope for the situation to subside. Not cos I am afraid of war which is one day going to happen. But this is the time to push China on the mat economically. 1600 Japanese companies have enquired about their new law on moving out of china. Even if we get one third it would be an success. As the Chinese we need to develop the military all round but we would need some time. I believe that's what diplomats task was given to buy time till we match Chinese economically.
But when does war happen even with china, Pok should be finished off. Cos Pakistan can't be silent sitting still.
Jaishankar's negotiations.... Lets see how much they affect the reality on ground.
www.hindustantimes.com
India, China reach 5-point consensus on easing border tensions at Jaishankar-Wang meet
The consensus was reached during talks between foreign minister Wang Yi and his Indian counterpart S Jaishankar on the margins of a Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) meet in Moscow on Thursday evening.
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Joint Press Statement - Meeting of External Affairs Minister and the Foreign Minister of China (September 10, 2020)
Jaishankar's negotiations.... Lets see how much they affect the reality on ground.
India, China reach 5-point consensus on easing border tensions at Jaishankar-Wang meet
The consensus was reached during talks between foreign minister Wang Yi and his Indian counterpart S Jaishankar on the margins of a Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) meet in Moscow on Thursday evening.
Read some related news on other news portals. It does not look like that China is honest in pursuing resolution through disengagement. They are still on the finger pointing path. So, a conflict is inevitable.