So, Nathan could not find Ajai Shukla's 5000 Chinese soldiers on the Indian side of the Galwan valley.. How unfortunate
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I would like to believe you ,pessimist in me ask are you sure army is also talking about ITBP?? Isn't it coated in ambiguity which can be interpreted both way.
As the news report was that the weapon were snatched from. ITBP .
Anyway intention doesn't look good on the lizard side
As the news report was that the weapon were snatched from. ITBP .
Anyway intention doesn't look good on the lizard side
Even indian Express today has carried an article which is saying that "Chinese soldier has ingressed in number 800-1000 at each place at total 3 place"So, Nathan could not find Ajai Shukla's 5000 Chinese soldiers on the Indian side of the Galwan valley.. How unfortunate
. so number will be easily in the range of 2500-3000 so maybe Shukla has got it right like mi17 fratricide
The original story called "army and itbp". So if army denies, then how true is itbp story is doubtful.
800 is almost an order of magnitude lesser than 5000.
The ability of IA is not at all questionable but what we must control is the narrative set by anti-India news channels. Chinese know what is in store for them. They have seen IA up close in 1967 and other areas including Doklam. We now have nearly as many men in uniform as the entire PLA looking after just two fronts but Chinese have to look after 13 fronts with similar number of troops.
They are after Indian water resources in Himalaya. I am sure IA knows where are the Tibetan water resources. That lake in Ladakh needs to be protected. You can't trust them, they can poison the lake.
800-1000 at one place and ingress has been at 3 place so it's in the vicinity of that number.
Regarding ITBP the story was weapon had been snatched from ITBP and later released .has there been any statement from ITBP.
Last the Chinese fought was in 79 and Vietnamese defeated them , we should grow some balls
The statement itself is fallacious ,the capability is always relative .wrt Pakistan we may have advantage but severerly crippled wrt china.it's also true the army doesn't arose same confidence level in political executive regarding handling China .so the govt will never give it the freedom to open another front like 65 and loose command over the subsequent event.
We should be the least efficient in getting the bang for the buck , spending nearly 61 billion dollar yearly yet barely capable of handling Pakistan.
When we have such a fetish for the import ,things are bound to go southward.equipment after equipment has been allowed to become obsolence by trial and if by mistake they clear the trial tomenism order .
What we want is to get 4% of gdp for the defense and pauper the country.because we won't accept anything less than rafale ,Apache ,tin 90 ,phalcon and bofors .
When it comes to deliver neither we have gold plated weapon in number ,nor MIC to deliver and happily ask the political executive to bail us out through diplomacy.yet to hear the same jingoistic pitch which we hear wrt Pakistan.
If you read in detail the battles in this area in 1962 war, you will realise that we neither had sufficient troops nor assets like mortar and arty. so much so that we could not even re4supply or reinforce our troops in this area. situation has now changed completely. We now have superior supplylines in the area and IAF will not remain on ground. If PLA does get into a fight, we must force our way forward and hit that highway to xinjiang. The mountain IBGs can help us dominate the hill features which will allow us to control all of Aksai chin area and we can hit the plains of Tibet Plateau.
Have a look at the area to the east. We have a hills for just about 5-6 kms and after that we have plains of Tibet Plateau. We need to recover these high grounds from china and after that PLA will not be able to hold on to Aksai Chin.
Have a look at the area to the east. We have a hills for just about 5-6 kms and after that we have plains of Tibet Plateau. We need to recover these high grounds from china and after that PLA will not be able to hold on to Aksai Chin.
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Unable to comprehand what you mean with so many words which make no sense to anyone.
How about going beyond that, and covering whole Pangong Tso. IA should go for all water bodies in the area, apart from defensive mode, compensating the loss of Mansarovar lake. Chinese will open another front in UK and Arunachal after that.
Any accompanying satellite pics to back up what Shukla said about thousands of Chinese troops on the indian side of the Galwan Valley ?
Please recollect the expedition into Tibet by Dogra General Zoraver Singh. Lunak La and Haji Langar were the posts controlled by Dogras and these were the tax collection posts for the traders going to Tibet and other areas like Xinjiang. These parts were never part of tibet and even the treaty after the dogra invasion of Tibet had identified them to the part of Dogra kingdom. But later the Johnson line in 1865 included parts to the east of this line into J&K map. Chinese knew this and that is the reason they made that highway which was within the Tibet boundary. They could have easily moved it further west and shortened the distance to Xinjiang. But they did not do so. Because they knew what is the true boundary between Dogras and Tibettens.
If we have to negotiate a final peace along Aksai Chin, we must hit our original claim line and leave the highway alone but dominate the heights around it. This will force chinese to settle the border dispute amicablly.
Even if they have 5000 men , why cannot we send 15000 men and Arrest all of them ,put them in Trucks and drive away
Put the photos on the internet
Shame them all over the world
UP and Bihar have too many idle men right now
Put them in Army uniforms and give them lathis
While Army men should be ready with Guns and Mortars if they start firing
And then we can give credit to CRPF
For clearing Encroachments
Put the photos on the internet
Shame them all over the world
UP and Bihar have too many idle men right now
Put them in Army uniforms and give them lathis
While Army men should be ready with Guns and Mortars if they start firing
And then we can give credit to CRPF
For clearing Encroachments
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I don't quite understand what that reporter from The Print has written. In his first tweet he categorically states that the PLA has intruded 3 kms across the LAC into the Indian side SE of the Galwan Valley & in the very next tweet, he's clarifying there's been no violation of it but adds a caveat that all the build up is within the Chinese claim line.
Out there on Twitter confusion abounds with known Modi baiters like Ajai Shukla, NDTV, etc stating that the Chinese have violated the LAC with other wise neutral observers like ToI & Saurabh Jha weighing in on their side. A number of ex servicemen of a very senior rank seem Tightlipped about the entire incident but seem quietly confident in the abilities of the IA to respond effectively. My friend Pravin Sawhney blocked me long ago for suggesting usage of castor oil admistered through the rectum to counter all negativity manifesting itself in tweets at 3 am arising out of chronic insomnia running down the Indian establishment .
Then we've reports of the PLA disarming Indian Armed Forces personnel whether from the IA Or ITBP one doesn't know. The IA promptly issues a clarification stating it's personnel weren't involved reprimanding the media to be more responsible in it's reporting.The ITBP has maintained a studious silence all though .Does anyone know the true picture? @Falcon
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Exactly my point .but we have to understand that it is the capability of the army which arises confidence in politician not the other way round.nehru tried to go reverse and paid the price.
The army I last heard was the the last remaining coercive arm of the state ,if Pakistani encroach you will shoot ,but if Chinese you will do satyagraha . requesting them to vacate ,agar yahi karna tha then this can be done by the civilian also . effectively what we are doing is dharna and begging them through back channel to return.
What sort of optics does it convey to the world ?totally relying on them to return .it is the Chinese who are inside our territory and doesn't it points towards the eerie similarities with kargil where we were groping in the dark for half a month.