These are the most important where you need adequate rate of production. And that too 85% should be indigenous. Add production rate of Tejas Mk1 and Rafale as priority. Because they will target the production houses with their long range weapons.
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These are the most important where you need adequate rate of production. And that too 85% should be indigenous. Add production rate of Tejas Mk1 and Rafale as priority. Because they will target the production houses with their long range weapons.
We have very large amounts of rocket artillery. We have hundreds of Grad launchers and we are replacing those with 400 Pinaka launchers, of which we already have half.
We have a large amount of standoff munitions as well, short and medium. We are only missing long range systems 'cause they are very expensive.
We are also missing indigenous long range stand off munitions. Buying a few Israeli and American stand off munitions won't help us. We need a large variety of stand off munitions that can hit up to 250km. The Turks will soon start arming the Pakistanis and they have a variety of stand off munitions in testing and induction.
Brahmos I family will be 85% indigenous. Brahmos II family is unknown. LR-LACM and the SR/MRBM will be fully indigenous.
What we really need is alternate means of supply in a long war. And that's really American JDAMs and JASSMs. LCA is gonna be integrated with JDAM-ER and the French Hammer. So hopefully the JASSM family follows suit.
If we go for the B-1s, then they can carry 24 JASSM-ERs. There's also the more advanced JASSM-XR in the works (too heavy for fighters). There are land-based versions too. There's also the Rapid Dragon, which uses C-130s and C-17s. They carry JASSM-ER/XR, LRASM and JDAM-ER. Even swarm drones. A C-130 can carry 12 missiles and a C-17 can carry 45.
So the JASSM is the best bet for a quick induction. We already have C-130 and C-17s, and a B-1 lease/sale can happen within a year.
Up to 250 km, we have those. Kh-59 is the IAF's main weapon. This requirement in the future will be fulfilled by indigenous designs though, basically glide and powered bombs in the 50-250 km category; SAAW, LRGB, JDAM-ER, Hammer etc. And HAL's working on a stealth missile. The IAF is interested in ALBMs at this range too, like RudraM. They have the Rampage already.
For longer ranges there's the Brahmos-A, SCALP, Brahmos-M, and LR-LACM.
So, we are only missing capability in the 1000+ km range. Nirbhay was supposed to give us that, but it's delayed. JASSM ER/XR is our go-to stopgap solution.
One correction, Rampage is currently with IN's Mig-29K. IAF is contemplating whether to integrate it on their UPGs or not.
We also don't lack PGMs. SAAW and NGARM are about to get mass induction. Long range, we could just scale up CATS Hunter and so on...
Also need offshore production facilities in different countries in case domestic ones go out of operation due to enemy strike.
'Evil tongues' conjure up the B-1B as India's new heavy bomber
It's just rumored for now. Eevil tongues claim that the presence of B-1B bombers from the USAF in Indian skies during Exercise Cope India 23 is not just a show.
bulgarianmilitary.com
Too costly for MoD. And at least 5 years more before they negotiate the final price adjusting inflation. The only advantage is they are in ready to fly state. Only operation and maintenance training is required for IAF.
Also need offshore production facilities in different countries in case domestic ones go out of operation due to enemy strike.
'Evil tongues' conjure up the B-1B as India's new heavy bomber
It's just rumored for now. Eevil tongues claim that the presence of B-1B bombers from the USAF in Indian skies during Exercise Cope India 23 is not just a show.
Too costly for MoD. And at least 5 years more before they negotiate the final price adjusting inflation. The only advantage is they are in ready to fly state. Only operation and maintenance training is required for IAF.
Bulgarian Military is a Russian propaganda site. The tone of the article itself tells you that.
Tu-160 is an option as well.
It's all speculation for now. It all started 'cause the ex-IAF Chief Arup Raha said he wants 6 Tu-160s.
Has doctrine of India changed? I recall it was enough stockpile for 2 weeks, has that been extended at all? I know it's not cheap but unless the war is quick like Azeri/Armenian wars (and I suspect India won't roll over as quickly) any conflict will drag out for months.
Yes it has. Russia-Ukraine war has come as an eye-opener to our military planners/armed forces. From having limited stock for an intense short conflict, now the focus has shifted towards developing our desi MIC for a protracted long war of attrition. All three armed forces are also in-sync with this view-point.
But the price what has been quoted here seems realistic. If not 1 Billion dollar each then atleast 850 million per unit. That's too much for the IAF.
More over, the the american strategic command hasn't retired it yet that proves a point that they won't easily sell it for lower price.
Don't think so. Anyway, that was war reserves, not the main stockpiles. We have a lot of ammo, including stored stuff. But there's gonna be a recaliberation of what's necessary for future wars.
Although India is preparing for a two-front war, it's quite unlikely.
You are thinking of a brand new bomber, but any B-1B we get will be refurbished and supplied to India for a life of 10+ years at best. It will apparently cost $30M per jet to fix. Then say a nominal transfer cost of $20M after that. So $50M per jet or $300M for all. Recall that the Trenton was sold for $48M to India. This ship is well over a billion bucks.
Missiles could cost a lot more depending on how many we need. So a single shot of 24 per jet could set us back by $720M if all the missiles are new. Or we could get second-hand stuff with 10 years left for a lot cheaper.
That's a little over $1B for all 6 with weapons. Say another billion for infrastructure and spares, which will mostly be transferred from existing units and cannibalized.
The Tu-160M will cost a lot. It's 15B rubles or $160M per jet. So procurement cost with weapons and R&D could go over $500M per jet.
I was talking about the used one, which are currently in service and USD 1 billion which I quoted from the website was including all the armaments as a package for 1 aircraft.
And then I quoted USD 850M per unit complete package, after bilateral negotiations ( this is what I believe).
And if I go as per your quoted price USD 750M, then still as per nature of Indian government I am sure they will not go for it.
What can happen is, they will at most buy 7 units and pay USD 5 Billion. They won't be coming before 2028. Meanwhile China will deploy their 5th Gen at in whole Tibetan theater.
No, it's $1B in total for 6 jets and their weapons. The article is quoting Eurasian Times.
B-1 Bombers: India Ready With All ‘Pacts & Papers’ To Acquire US Bombers; Will It Become 1st Country To Get One?
The US military, which sent F-35 fighter jets to India for the first time in February of this year, has now announced to send two of its B1 strategic bombers, as well as a fleet of F-15 E fighter jets, to participate in a joint bilateral Air Exercise.
www.eurasiantimes.com
We don't know when we will go for the bombers, if at all, but they are not meant to fight the J-20.
A bomber requirement was brought up by ex-ACM Arup Raha for the SFC, along with other roles. He spoke about the Tu-160 though, 'cause obviously the US wouldn't allow theirs for nuclear delivery.
This news was in 2019. Now Indian army launches Sarvashakti. They knew this was coming, what did they do since then?
A complete new project for such delivery systems using Kaveri engine along with TU 160 is more profitable. Makes you independent in use.
The requirement is for 1 squadron, so it's not a big problem. In case we need a stealth bomber, we will need a better engine, and 15 years.
