Thanks for putting the link. An update to come and retire 2030-35, for the EF. Review for EF replacement in 2025.
Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning and F-22 'Raptor' : News & Discussion
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- F35 is a CAS and air to ground platform with air to air second role. It has an average T/W ratio. No supercruise, no super agility, quite heavy so in air to air more reheat use = not IR stealthy.
- F22 is a pure air to air fighter with a light air to ground capacity. Better T/W ratio, nearly no need of reheat for IR trace, high rank agility.
The result is fully logic.
Still spouting tired old BS? Give it up dude at this point only ignorant morons who know nothing about the F-35 and only get their info from what they here by Rafale fanboys buys this crap. The Swiss said it all when it came to the F-35's air to air capability... Rafale didn't cum close.
5GAT Drone Ready for First Flight
After a multi-month delay due to COVID-19, the Fifth Generation Aerial Target will take its first flight later this month at Dugway Proving Ground, Utah, following nearly flawless completion of
www.defense.gov
Strangely they didn't reveal the detail of eval....
Strangely the Swiss said to the french somes weeks before that the 2 deals was for them... why if the game was over?
Strangely all changed just after the Joe Biden visit...
Strangely the Swiss bank interests in USA are just decisivs.
Only a moron can ignore that.
Yet when the deal to buy the Rafale was still on the table....They were wonderful 
Is there bigger 'Le Troll ' on the internet than the French?
Is there bigger 'Le Troll ' on the internet than the French?
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(SydneyMorningHerald, oct.10)
@Innominate , @Optimist ,
How to explain this?:
(...) New figures release by the government show the biggest contributor to the $6.5 billion cost blowout is the F-35A joint strike fighter program, which is expected to cost $2.4 billion more than the $16 billion originally estimated.
The acquisition of a fleet of Boeing P-8A Poseidon maritime patrol and reconnaissance aircraft was the second-biggest factor, coming in at $1.8 billion over the original estimate. (...)
AUKUS submarines to add $100 billion to defence bill
The purchase of eight nuclear submarines under the AUKUS pact is expected to add at least another $100 billion to the nation’s already ballooning defence bill, as the Albanese government seeks to rein in cost blowouts and delays of major military projects.
@Innominate , @Optimist ,
How to explain this?:
(...) New figures release by the government show the biggest contributor to the $6.5 billion cost blowout is the F-35A joint strike fighter program, which is expected to cost $2.4 billion more than the $16 billion originally estimated.
The acquisition of a fleet of Boeing P-8A Poseidon maritime patrol and reconnaissance aircraft was the second-biggest factor, coming in at $1.8 billion over the original estimate. (...)
AUKUS submarines to add $100 billion to defence bill
The purchase of eight nuclear submarines under the AUKUS pact is expected to add at least another $100 billion to the nation’s already ballooning defence bill, as the Albanese government seeks to rein in cost blowouts and delays of major military projects.
Numbers by themselves mean little. What year was the 16 billion estimate? There could be your answer.
I haven't looked at the Poseidon
The sub will finish up at 200 billion with support. It depends what you count.
The frog sub was 225 billion
www.afr.com
I haven't looked at the Poseidon
The sub will finish up at 200 billion with support. It depends what you count.
The frog sub was 225 billion
Cost of submarines sails past $200 billion
Defence estimates has also heard Australia will not be compensated for the loss of a $120 million fighter jet after its engine blew up.
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What does this have to do about your claim you made about the F-35's performance in air to air?
Your deflection denied!
LOL.
Official source said in the 50 billions.
I give a source, a thing you are not able to do :
Leaked document sheds light on cancellation of French subs contract
A leaked confidential document gives an insider's perspective on how the Morrison government went about cancelling the French submarine contract, highlighting how officials running the contract were kept in the dark.
www.abc.net.au
"A cabinet submission drafted by Greg Sammut, and released after an FOI request, was sent to the Defence deputy secretary responsible for shipbuilding, Tony Dalton, 34 days before the cancellation of the program on August 20 last year.
It said: "The updated program cost estimate is $46.4 billion in 2016 constant dollars, which remains within the original acquisition cost estimate of $50 billion in 2016 constant dollars announced at the outset of the Attack class submarine program in April 2016".
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Yet when the deal to buy the Rafale was still on the table....They were wonderful
Is there bigger 'Le Troll ' on the internet than the French?
i think your most technologically-advanced helmet sight of all time, also the most expensive, goes off target: i never mentioned the air-to-air capabilities of the Turkey. Although it is true that it was designed for ground attack missions.
When it works.
As I said above, "Numbers by themselves mean little" "It depends what you count". As I posted a link where lifetime cost of the frog sub was 225 billion.
I guess the frog rants are what happens. When ignorant french, with nationalistic pride is hurt.
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Your link is a tabloid.... so full bull shit my dear.
The F35 already delivered are not war ready according to some USAF top brass.
My sad little La Troll, it is from....
The estimated cost of building and maintaining Australia's new submarines has swelled to $225 billion over the fleet's life, according to evidence from a senior Defence official.
The head of the navy's submarine program, Greg Sammut,