Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning and F-22 'Raptor' : News & Discussion
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South Korean Defense Sources Express Concerns About Unreliable F-35 Fighters
Now ain't this cute sweetie ? The gooks are going absolutely mongol on the Lightnings & consequently on LM , the DoD , Irish Joe's administration & the US itself. @Innominate
Now ain't this cute sweetie ? The gooks are going absolutely mongol on the Lightnings & consequently on LM , the DoD , Irish Joe's administration & the US itself. @Innominate
It seems that 10,5 Billion US dollars for 35 f-35 for germany was not an isolated case.
We now have 5,2 US dollars for 16 f-35 for Canadian F-35.
torontosun.com
We now have 5,2 US dollars for 16 f-35 for Canadian F-35.
Defence Department receives approval to spend $7B on 16 F-35s
The Department of National Defence recently received quiet approval to spend $7 billion on 16 F-35 fighter jets and related gear.
Black Friday is over for LM....It seems that 10,5 Billion US dollars for 35 f-35 for germany was not an isolated case.
We now have 5,2 US dollars for 16 f-35 for Canadian F-35.
Defence Department receives approval to spend $7B on 16 F-35s
The Department of National Defence recently received quiet approval to spend $7 billion on 16 F-35 fighter jets and related gear.
How much of that money does the US get? The trolls are going to go quiet. When the intent notice costs to US gov is posted.
Stay tuned
Germany has already ruined their day
Stay tuned
Germany has already ruined their day
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Colombia seems to have preselected 16 rafales for 3 US billion dollars
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Colombia preselecciona al Rafale como su futuro avión de combate
Asimismo, explicó que también se han evaluado las prpuestas de Suecia, con los Gripen de Saab, y de Estados Unidos, con los F-16 de Lockheed Martin. Sin embargo, desde el Gobierno afirm ...
16 rafales 3 billions US dollars
16 F-35 5 billions US dollars
The Rafale is adequate for COIN operations against drug cartels.
The Rafale is dearer than the F-35, say France and country competitions. It is in purchase price and sustainment. Do you think your headline posts have any value? Other than showing there are other things in the headline number.Colombia seems to have preselected 16 rafales for 3 US billion dollars
stay tuned
Colombia preselecciona al Rafale como su futuro avión de combate
Asimismo, explicó que también se han evaluado las prpuestas de Suecia, con los Gripen de Saab, y de Estados Unidos, con los F-16 de Lockheed Martin. Sin embargo, desde el Gobierno afirm ...www.infodefensa.com
16 rafales 3 billions US dollars
16 F-35 5 billions US dollars
I hope you are thanking the US CAATSA, for the potential sale.
The budget needed to buy F-35 is more or less twice the budget for rafale ... You can try to invok gods or super heros to change this evidence. Good luck.
LOL, that's why rafale was dearer in the recent Finnish and Swiss comps. This is getting delusional.
IAF grounds all it's 11x F-35B variants due to a crash in the US of a similar model during manoeuvring test exercises to check it's hovering capabilities conducted by LM , pending a full on check of all systems & sub systems before resumption of active service by these birds.
I mean the recurrence of so many problems with the Lightnings across air forces in the world isn't even a joke anymore .
If a conflict over Taiwan breaks out right now I suppose the Lightnings would be gracing the hangars in Japan & RoK with their EODAS & EA switched on .
After all it can function successfully thousands of kms away . And then there's the secret ingredient - E virus like Stuxnet too , isn't it sweetie ?
A classic example of brain damaged ex American Football players with a trailer tramp background reaching the top & running state of the art futuristic military programs ( into the ground ) at DARPA , USAF , USMC , USN ,LM , NG , DoD etc .
@Innominate
Our next fighter is taking shape
We need to get in line now for our 2030s fighters, we already know the F-35 won't be...
This had to happen sweetie . Now the Aussies , not the brightest of bulbs out there , are on the lookout for what may well be a replacement for the Lightnings when it's not even been properly inducted.
Going by ever postponed LM schedules , the latest being 2030 when the Lightnings finally gets a new engine all those pesky upgrades & finally finally it gets certified with the FOC & that's still not a certainty but a big if....
Meanwhile the Aussies while not exactly being overtly critical are definitely not interested in considering you anymore for future procurements .
Seems to me the Lightnings & the whole Lightning saga from the FOC & upgrades to it's flight per hour cost to it's maintenance would mark the complete shattering of trust in US made fighters among your allies. Sets the stage for other vendors to fill in the vaccum
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Le Francais & ze Germans must be salivating at the prospect as will the gooks , dagos & the stiff upper lipped repressed cousins of yours from across the Atlantic.
@Innominate
Please excuse mein pet monkey she gets worked up over click bait.
btw how many stealth fighters does India fly?
Please excuse mein pet monkey she gets worked up over click bait.
btw how many stealth fighters does India fly?
If the chatter"s started , things would follow . We're discussing Australia sweetie , not India. Third world nations like us see nations like the US & Australia buy Lightnings & develop haemorrhoids maintaining them paying for their upkeep bleeding thru their rear . We say to ourselves if we've to get conned like this , we might as well develop our own 5th Gen FA & con ourselves. That's what the Chinese & Russians did too .
The F-35 is so bad. They say we are buying another 24. To be announced early this year.
Well pops you know the Aussies better than most here . Unfortunately for you so does the UK & US . Hence Auckus where you end up probably financing - partially or fully ( I'm betting on the latter ) UK's next gen SSBNs or SSNs or both.
You see , If ever there was intelligence to be displayed in arriving at a decision , I think you'd be the first to admit the Aussies would arrive at the opposite decision.
The F-35 is an idiot detector
In the end, in its current incarnation, despite all the hype, the F-35 has not lived up to the notion of a multi-purpose fighter, and indeed has proven not to be a fighter at all. Indeed, it cannot be an air superiority aircraft, let alone a dominance aircraft, and it cannot function as a system of systems in a coalition of opportunity, due to its closed nature and proprietary systems, and worse, it is not even a catastrophic event protection vehicle.