Lok Sabha passes Citizenship Bill amidst Opposition outcry

screambowl said:
Modi, Trump, Putin and Xi bloc. Right now these four are running the world and supporting eachother.
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Supporting each other dont know.
but any four leaders who run these four countries account for 25.4% of the total Landmass and about 60% of the Worlds economy and account for the Largest military's in the world, and the largest chunk of global population. ist natural for these four nations in ay group to be controlling the world in some way.
 
vsdoc said:
Largely true.

Of course there are many hypereducated upper crust Hindu families that are sangh haters as well.

Just like you have sanghi Parsi mavericks spreading toxicity in Congress traditionalist families.

But in the absence of hard numbers I deal in trends.

And the trend is Muslim, Christian and Sikh families vote Congress at the center, like Parsi families.
you
Hindu families vote BJP more than they do Congress.

Cheers, Doc
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No clue here, no opinion. But then again I am not as opinionated as you :)

Well I don't think anyone is ;)
 
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Milspec said:
No clue here, no opinion. But then again I am not as opinionated as you :)

Well I don't think anyone is ;)
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Opinionated in polite terms means my WhatsApp group. If they happen to include ppl of different faiths, I know what India is thinking . I can see you haven't had much experience of interactions with Parsis. Rule of thumb. Do the opposite of what they advise. You'd be better off. Trust me. This is more than 3 decades of dealing with then talking.
 
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Supporting each other dont know.
but any four leaders who run these four countries account for 25.4% of the total Landmass and about 60% of the Worlds economy and account for the Largest military's in the world, and the largest chunk of global population. ist natural for these four nations in ay group to be controlling the world in some way.
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I would say, there should be a separate group of these four countries. China, and Russia are pretty safe from politics, but still things could change any time, for US and India it's a daily scenario. This is my personal idea that these four countries should have a new group. India will play a big role if Trump is ever reelected. And even if not still going to play big role.
The drama happening on the streets of delhi is due to the fact people seeing their power going out of hands and Modi is neutralizing the opposition. And now there is anyways no point of return, the revolution started in 2014.
 
Yup.

Swamiji should have done the same on his voyage to America.

Indians should have done the same to Bhabha and Sethna.

And of course Indira, having already married one, should have done the same in the lead-up to '71.

The issue @Milspec is that most upper crust Hindu families send their kids to RSS Sunday shakhas.

For them it's a mix of Christian Sunday school and the Boy Scouts/Rotary.

"It's good for discipline"

"At least he's outdoors and not on his phone."

"What's the harm in learning about our sanskriti?"

The subliminal brainwashing happens insidious. Ask these families, they don't have a clue. And will protest firmly to the contrary saying it's all non religious non communal social building.

Hitler Youth started in exactly the same mould and template.

Cheers, Doc
 
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vsdoc said:
Yup.

Swamiji should have done the same on his voyage to America.

Indians should have done the same to Bhabha and Sethna.

And of course Indira, having already married one, should have done the same in the lead-up to '71.

The issue @Milspec is that most upper crust Hindu families send their kids to RS Sunday shakhas.

For them it's a mix of Christian Sunday school and the Boy Scouts/Rotary.

The subliminal brainwashing happens insidious. Ask these families, they don't have a clue. And will protest firmly to the contrary saying it's all non religious non communal social building.

Hitler Youth started in exactly the same mould and template.

Cheers, Doc
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Again, gross generalization to fit a narrative, I would say, but you are absolutely entitled to your opinion just like I am to disagree with both the context as well as the subjectivity it's built on.
 
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Opinionated in polite terms means my WhatsApp group. If they happen to include ppl of different faiths, I know what India is thinking . I can see you haven't had much experience of interactions with Parsis. Rule of thumb. Do the opposite of what they advise. You'd be better off. Trust me. This is more than 3 decades of dealing with then talking.
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Generalization are just stupid. Most of them are. except for the positive culinary repute related ones.

As far as you Parsi comment, one of my best friends in India is Parsi and just like @vsdocs generalization about everything, won't agree to yours either. :)
 
Milspec said:
Generalization are just stupid. Most of them are. except for the positive culinary repute related ones.

As far as you Parsi comment, one of my best friends in India is Parsi and just like @vsdocs generalization about everything, won't agree to yours either. :)
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Ignore me at your peril. 99% of Mumbai would agree with what I say. The 1% who won't constitutes you know who. And you. I'd hate to come up to you & tell you - I told you so. But I've told you so already.
 
True Indology (@TIinExile) Tweeted:
A Kashmiri Pandit nurse Sarla Bhatt, was abducted, r@ped for days and murdered.

Her funeral was stone-pelted and bombed by a mob chanting "Azadi".

"Azadi ka matlab kya. Lā ʾilāha ʾillā llāh" they shouted!

The real meaning of "Azadi"!

Youthias of Stephen, take note! Stephanians on Twitter ( )
 
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True Indology (@TIinExile) Tweeted:
A Kashmiri Pandit nurse Sarla Bhatt, was abducted, r@ped for days and murdered.

Her funeral was stone-pelted and bombed by a mob chanting "Azadi".

"Azadi ka matlab kya. Lā ʾilāha ʾillā llāh" they shouted!

The real meaning of "Azadi"!

Youthias of Stephen, take note! Stephanians on Twitter ( )
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They have either complete idea what they are shouting for or no idea at all, and they are protesting because being leftist is a style now days. Catch their parents, and ask them the rest. These guys are not using their freedom of speech and expression, rather reducing other's right to education by shouting in the campus. This is an assault on fundamental duties of theirs and right of others.

I have already mentioned that there is a conspiracy to hurt and damage India's education system. And now days, in DU and other Uni, these NGO's like Amnesty and all hire students for internship, if they are in scanner, then they should be barred from entertaining any such kind of University project using students.

Role of Indian industries comes into play here, by hiring students for the project to counter these NGO's, who have friends in Congress as well. Just wait, there will be some slogering at BHU too again.
 
screambowl said:
They have either complete idea what they are shouting for or no idea at all, and they are protesting because being leftist is a style now days. Catch their parents, and ask them the rest. These guys are not using their freedom of speech and expression, rather reducing other's right to education by shouting in the campus. This is an assault on fundamental duties of theirs and right of others.

I have already mentioned that there is a conspiracy to hurt and damage India's education system. And now days, in DU and other Uni, these NGO's like Amnesty and all hire students for internship, if they are in scanner, then they should be barred from entertaining any such kind of University project using students.

Role of Indian industries comes into play here, by hiring students for the project to counter these NGO's, who have friends in Congress as well. Just wait, there will be some slogering at BHU too again.
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You've just perfectly defined any garden vanilla variety fascist state.

Pink Floyd reverberation.

Jai ho.

Cheers, Doc
 
RD SINGH (@RD_BANA) Tweeted:
JNU’s poor student who finds ₹300 too much as room rent rolling a joint...let’s smoke some w€€d before we rave and rant in the protest, what say?? RD SINGH on Twitter ( )


Stuti (@StuteeMishra) Tweeted:
At the March in Mandi House Stuti on Twitter ( )

࿗ Your Majesty 👑 ࿗ (@YourMajesty1298) Tweeted:
@StuteeMishra He should have worn burkha, hijab or nikab. That way he'd look more secular. (
https://twitter.com/x/status/1215538650479333377
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Can't tell if this is a freak show or a protest or if it's freaks protesting. If this is the face of protests against the CAA, I think it's lost the very little credibility it had. Must say even extremely eccentric bawas would be scandalised & embarrassed by this freak show.
 
Milspec said:
Again as I said, I have no problem with anyone's appearance and very little understanding of Trans issues, and I apologize for my ignorance. The closest I can understand is the serious plight of hijras and their exploitation. So any bill that helps them out, I am all for it and NDA's manifesto has that as a key item.

Now the woke crowd in JNU and others, they are from a different planet and my views are clear on these.

Taxpayers money and it's the utilization; It's unfortunate but true that we do not have any say in it. Just like I cant that my money is used to finance buying Junk WZT's from Poland, you cant control it subsidizing students learning Ethiopian literature for 15 years in these esteemed colleges.


American Politics And Indian politics, in my opinion, are miles apart. Indian electorate is much more politically engaged and conscious and I would like to believe the Collective intelligence of the electorate is far superior. The Woke group want's to draw parallels and fit hate trump narrative to Hate Modi canvas, but it's water and oil apart. Modi is a far superior politician, BJP is a far superior political organization, India is a far complicated country, and priorities of the respective electorates is light-years apart.

I saw the Wapo piece side by side, and these faux paus, will be forgotten, the general sentiment of Modi will remain. Remember a shitbag like bagdadi or gaddafi, will die and will be forgotten, Modi is here to stay for another 8.
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All this JNU .. Delhi c**p has no impact on the BJP.. I hate to call this provincial Delhi media.. as national media... All these channels Republic, NDTV, times now, for them news outside NCR, is a distraction.. Be it news from South India, or western India, they don't care, but some nobody like Kanhaiya, gets more coverage than Mamta, or Pawar. If AAP had been a party in Tamil nadu, no one outside the national capital would have known about it...
For these Delhi walas India starts at JNU and ends in Noida...
I stopped watching news from these self proclaimed National Media, long time ago..
 
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All this JNU .. Delhi c**p has no impact on the BJP.. I hate to call this provincial Delhi media.. as national media... All these channels Republic, NDTV, times now, for them news outside NCR, is a distraction.. Be it news from South India, or western India, they don't care, but some nobody like Kanhaiya, gets more coverage than Mamta, or Pawar. If AAP had been a party in Tamil nadu, no one outside the national capital would have known about it...
For these Delhi walas India starts at JNU and ends in Noida...
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Agree on the Delhi centricness of "national" news networks.

I try to breathe as little as possible when in Delhi, and get out by the first possible evening flight.

That city is seriously distasteful to my sensibilities in every way imaginable.

Food and women being it's saving grace.

Cheers, Doc
 
Shefali Vaidya (@ShefVaidya) Tweeted:
How the heck can I unsee this? Sharing it to spread the misery. Why should I suffer alone? Shefali Vaidya on Twitter (
https://twitter.com/x/status/1215289757975973890
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Thread. 🤣🤣🤣



Kavita Krishnan (@kavita_krishnan) Tweeted:
The trans person in the picture below is a student, a scholar, a fine human being whom I am proud to know and admire. This handle is shamelessly dehumanising and deriding a trans person for their appearance. Report #transphobia
@TwitterIndia @jack @Twitter @stoptransbill19 Shefali Vaidya on Twitter ( )

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THE SKIN DOCTOR (@theskindoctor13) Tweeted:
@ShefVaidya My dog had swallowed my car keys an hour back. I tried a lot of emetics but nothing worked. Out of options, I showed him this picture and he vomited instantly, puking out the car keys as well as the bike keys he had swallowed last year. Thanx for sharing this image ma'am. (
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Gautam said:
Around 1,079 Pakistani Twitter handles being used to spread hate speech around Citizenship Amendment Act

By Sunny Sen
Jan 08, 2020 14:48:11 IST

In the last few weeks, more than 1,079 Twitter accounts were created in Pakistan to spread hate speech around Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA), according to a report prepared by cybersecurity company Innefu Labs, which works closely with government and enforcement agencies, including the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).

The report, which is available exclusively with Tech2, shows that Pakistan is the hotspot and point of origin of hate speech and anti-India narrative aiming to destabilise social harmony and create internal conflict, by calling India a “terror state” and a “Nazi” country.

In fifteen days, ending 23 December, 2019, hashtags, influencers and bots were used to spread anti-national content using social media.

Hashtags like #NaziIndiaRejected, #IndiaDiscriminatesMuslims, #IndiaToEndia are created by Pakistan-based PTI Social media activists and Pak Cyber Force.

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File image of anti-CAA protesters at Shaheen Bagh. PTI

#NaziIndiaRejected was created by @PTI_VF, which has more than 28,000 followers. Other ones such as #IndiaDiscriminatesMuslims was created by Pakistan-based influencer Husnain Baloch on 21 Dec, 2019. The hashtag #ModiTerrorismPolicywas created by F_H_B_PK on 20 Dec, 2019. And some other of the handles that propagated hate speeches are @KranchiKings19s (does not exist now) and @Rayyank077. Some of the other hashtags originating from Pakistan are #caa_nrc_protests, #citizenshipamendmentact, #indiaagainstcaa_nrc, #indiahatemodi, #cabprotests, among others, used for negative propaganda.

Some of the hashtags were used to originate the hate speeches and others were used to post propaganda videos, misinformation, and police brutality.

“They work in two phases — first by creating a hashtag and then using their activists to bring it in the trending list,” said Tarun Wig, co-founder and CTO of Innefu Labs, which used uses data analytics and artificial intelligence solutions to track and flag off cybercrimes.

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The list of Pakistani Twitter handles investigated by Innefu Labs

The accounts’ and the bots’ objective is to increase negative sentiment and radicalise Muslims against the bill. The accounts projected the CAA as communal law. The report also said that attempts were made, using these accounts and bots, to start countrywide protests. These accounts were also used to share a series of videos and posts against police brutality.

“There is a gradual rise in the use of the internet by Pakistani outfits,” said Wig. “They have become very active with an increase in their workforce by outfits like Social Media activist or SM activist, and PCF (Pak Cyber Force).”

Though it is difficult to find out which are the organisations behind these accounts and bots, Wig has witnessed a gradual rise of such groups on the internet.

“Initially Pakistan Cyber Force was very active apart from JiD cyber army, but now multiple other groups seem to have been started by them for the same thing,” said Wig.

Around 1,079 Pakistani Twitter handles being used to spread hate speech around Citizenship Amendment Act - Firstpost
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Narrative is set somewhere else but 'useful idiots' are Indians. Like that Nazi thing, Imran Niazi used it so many times, it didn't get any traction, later whatsapp group were told to use it and they take it hook line and sinker.

Some used it in compulsion of masters orders, didn't even realize practising Nazism have more in common with them than the one they blame.
 
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Milspec said:
I really don't care about the appearence of anyone, especially with very little understanding of Trans people if this is one of them.
What bothers me not just about this one individual but the following about entire protest surrounding this entire Award Wapsi/JNU sedition/CAA/ and now this.

1> Horrible group of spokespersons from the government's side on key issues, while TV spokespersons are masquerading as ministers.
2> Absolute incompetence of Law enforcement across the states giving more fodder to anti-establishment through lynchings, rapes, lawlessness on the streets.
3> Poor media management, where most of bigwigs media are vociferously anti-Modi and will go to any extent to malign him, even if it means portraying India 10 times worse than Syria. Modi might have a big Media section that supports him, but he's got quantity, not quality. Most reporters who are perceived as best in the industry are vehemently and overtly anti-Modi, and he hasn't done anything to either build bridges.
4> Incompetent lower rung leaders chopping the legs of the organization with their crass and mindless comments, and top leadership continually ignoring these discretions.
5> General pliability of Media and how easy it portrays a divided society to the rest of the world. This government doesn't seem to understand the long term damage of a Time magazine article or a WaPo piece or videos of student protests and making enemies in international media. how it defames the country and destroys the great work done across the years.
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For this mess and dividing India BJP has more to blame itself than anyone else. When Islamists almost killed the protests by showing their true colors BJP IT head chutiya shared a fake video, the one ecosystem desperately waiting for to brandish every Islamist rant as fake.

Remember NDTV & Rahul Kanwal used only fake videos to look real videos of anti national slogans at JNU look fake?

Similarly an actress went to a protest, how does it matter but thanks to that joker Bagga it became only story of the country after his call to boycott. Such dhakkans are provided prime position in party how do you think they will not mess up.

BJP has exceptional group of people who work so hard to alienate more and more people, instead of making allies they believe in making enemies, end result is pretty visible.

A corrupt to core party, rejected completely twice by nation has somehow kept whole nation hostage, guess who is to blame? Chankya.
 
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