Macron wants strategic Paris-Delhi-Canberra axis amid Pacific tension

Well that's not exactly what you'd call preparedness.

We are prepared. I already pointed out that our side of the border has been heavily militarised. We are even creating 2 new strike corps dedicated to facing China.

Militarising a border requires minimal time.

Bringing troops to the border can be done. But fighting in the mountains requires years of experience operating in such areas. The Chinese have not really invested in doing that as much as we have.
 
India will never join into any military alliance, especially into the ones that involve US or NATO. If we were going to join we could have joined during the first gulf war itself when NATO and US were pushing us to protect their sea lines while their fleet was busy in the Gulf. It's in our Deep state DNA to play safe.
 
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We are prepared. I already pointed out that our side of the border has been heavily militarised. We are even creating 2 new strike corps dedicated to facing China.

Bringing troops to the border can be done. But fighting in the mountains requires years of experience operating in such areas. The Chinese have not really invested in doing that as much as we have.
Yeah, and the EU army has $10bn to defend against Russia. They're prepared too.

Yeah, but they have invested a lot more in high-tech.
 
India will never join into any military alliance, especially into the ones that involve US or NATO. If we were going to join we could have joined during the first gulf war itself when NATO and US were pushing us to protect their sea lines while their fleet was busy in the Gulf. It's in our Deep state DNA to play safe.
I think that's a long-term strategic error though. Not knowing who one's friends and enemies are, and their friends and enemies are, impedes proper defence and war planning.
 
La France et l’Inde ont signé un accord dans le domaine de la surveillance maritime par satellite
PAR LAURENT LAGNEAU · 7 MARS 2019
La France et l’Inde ont signé un accord dans le domaine de la surveillance maritime par satellite

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France and India have signed an agreement in the field of maritime satellite surveillance
BY LAURENT LAGNEAU - MARCH 7, 2019

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The Indian Ocean is vital to the Chinese economy. Hence its investments in this part of the world, as part of its strategy known as the "new silk routes"[OBOR, for One Belt, One Road] and the deployment of its naval forces to secure its supplies and, more generally, its trade flows.

However, this naval presence is perceived by New Delhi as a threat, or even a challenge to its security. Indeed, India sees this Chinese strategy as an attempt to contain or even encircle. And this is all the more so since China has made Pakistan one of its closest allies.

As Indo-Pakistani relations are already not the best in the world, New Delhi and Islamabad also have a territorial dispute, called the "Sir Creek dispute", over the boundaries of their respective exclusive economic zones in the Gulf of Oman. This area is considered to contain important fishery resources as well as oil and gas reserves.

In addition to rivalry with its Pakistani and Chinese counterparts and the need to protect trade routes, the Indian Navy obviously has the task of monitoring the Indian EEZ and the country's maritime approaches, particularly against the terrorist threat.

In 2018, and in order to "break" what is seen as Chinese containment, New Delhi concluded an agreement with Paris to allow Indian Navy ships to use French naval bases established in the Indian Ocean, which is also a major issue for France and, more broadly, the European Union[75% of its exports transit through it].

And on March 6, during a visit to New Delhi by its President, Jean-Yves Le Gall, the National Centre for Space Studies[CNES] signed another cooperation agreement to develop a maritime surveillance system using space imagery with the Indian Space Research Organisation[ISRO].

This agreement aims "to provide an operational system for monitoring and tracking maritime traffic in the Indian Ocean region, provides for the establishment in India, as from May 2019, of a maritime surveillance centre, the sharing of capacity for processing existing spatial data and the joint development of appropriate algorithms", explains the CNES.

She added: "With respect to the next phase of the program, studies are underway for a joint orbital infrastructure, the operation of which will be shared between the two countries. CNES works with its industrial partners and ISRO to develop the most appropriate technical solution. »

"We have an intensifying relationship with India and maritime surveillance from space is a matter of strategic interest to both our countries. It is by relying on the remarkable integration of the CNES and ISRO teams that we have been able to be very responsive in the deployment of this program, launched during the President of the Republic's State Visit to India just one year ago," Mr. Le Gall pointed out.

As a reminder, the French Navy provides maritime surveillance by satellite via the Trimaran 2 contract, awarded to the Airbus Defence & Space / Telespazio France consortium in 2016, for a period of four years. The future will undoubtedly lie in nanosatellites for surveillance, developed by the Rennes-based start-up Unseenlabs.

In addition, Mr. Le Gall took the opportunity to discuss, with Sivan K, his Indian counterpart, technologies relating to reusable launchers, manned space flights[India has ambitions in this area] and Franco-Indian climate satellites [Megha-Tropiques and Saral-AltiKa, ed].
 
They have Europeen and Indian alternatives.
Wow, you think Europe, dumb as it is, is going to trust the Russians? Good look getting the Eastern European members on board with that.

China is larger economically and militarily than India and closer to Russia geographically. They will choose China.
 
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Wow, you think Europe, dumb as it is, is going to trust the Russians? Good look getting the Eastern European members on board with that.

China is larger economically and militarily than India and closer to Russia geographically. They will choose China.
Except for France, Germany and may be Italy, their no other nation in EU which can survive without NATO support and funds. Especially the East EU nations which were part of Warsaw Pact earlier and now part of NATO. This makes these countries useless for Russia. There is a limit to which China will help Russia except for oil. India is and will remain a big opportunity for
 
Wow, you think Europe, dumb as it is, is going to trust the Russians? Good look getting the Eastern European members on board with that.

China is larger economically and militarily than India and closer to Russia geographically. They will choose China.
China will want to invade Siberia which is quite empty, Europe will help Russia to preserve Siberia in order to share its resources.
 
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The strategic community in Delhi seems to distrust the Australians...from what's the prevailing mindset, it's viewed as though the Australians have been extensively penetrated at all levels of government by the Chinese. Almost to the level of, if not more than, the Soviet penetration of Indian power structures during the Cold War.

There are pretty valid reasons on our part regarding why we remained reluctant to include the Aussies in Malabar exercises. When journalists claim it's because India did not want to piss off China, they're either being stupid, misinformed, dis-informed, or all of them. Inclusion of Japan pisses off China enough - and among all the parties involved, India is the only one to have engaged in multiple instances of armed conflict with the Chinese (US direct engagement ended after Korean War).
 
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China will want to invade Siberia which is quite empty, Europe will help Russia to preserve Siberia in order to share its resources.
China isn't that stupid. China is more likely to aim for Aksai Chin and Arunachal Pradesh and maybe Taiwan in terms of invasions. And Russia is keen on the Baltics as well as getting Ukraine back. Additionally the area in Siberia you're thinking of is at the opposite end of Russia, so how would the EU help exactly? By condemning them in a speech?

It's a risk vs reward thing. Taking Siberia is a direct invasion of Russian territory and lands China in a war with Russia and likely gets it nuked, as well as losing it a major ally, which it would need in any Taiwan or North Korea scenario. The others it can maybe get without a nuclear war or losing allies. Simple maths.
 
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China isn't that stupid. China is more likely to aim for Aksai Chin and Arunachal Pradesh and maybe Taiwan in terms of invasions. And Russia is keen on the Baltics as well as getting Ukraine back.

It's a risk vs reward thing. Taking Siberia is a direct invasion of Russian territory and lands China in a war with Russia and likely gets it nuked, as well as losing it a major ally, which it would need in any Taiwan or North Korea scenario. The others it can maybe get without a nuclear war or losing allies. Simple maths.
They already control Aksai Chin, Madam & their claims on Arunachal Pradesh is more as a leverage to get us to acknowledge their sovereignty over Aksai Chin. As I said these are way too complex matters for you to be involved in.
 
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They already control Aksai Chin, Madam & their claims on Arunachal Pradesh is more as a leverage to get us to acknowledge their sovereignty over Aksai Chin. As I said these are way too complex matters for you to be involved in.
They're both disputed is my point. At least I'm not suggesting that the EU is going to help Russia protect the other side of its country from a Chinese invasion. What exactly are the EU going to do? Sail the CdG around there to give the Chinese some target practice?
 
They're both disputed is my point. At least I'm not suggesting that the EU is going to help Russia protect the other side of its country from a Chinese invasion. What exactly are the EU going to do? Sail the CdG around there to give the Chinese some target practice?
What's also disputed is Russian sovereignty over some parts of Manchuria. The Chinese haven't highlighted its claims yet.