again. Bandhu Astra is a BVRAAM. MICA-IR is SRAAM or at best you can call it intermediate range.Both have different roles.
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again. Bandhu Astra is a BVRAAM. MICA-IR is SRAAM or at best you can call it intermediate range.Both have different roles.
Mr master of expaart, Dont you know that we have an in-house program for CCM ,and it is named as Astra IR?
The ROK Air Force has some complaints about the high price of European air-to-air weapons. Therefore, the domestic industry is proposing the development of a domestic air-to-air missile, and the development will be inevitable. Personally, I am very paying attention to India's ASTRA air-to-air missiles. It took almost 20 years to develop. The development of air-to-air missiles is very difficult. ASTRA will be very useful in future air-to-air combat.
I was about to tell you exactly that Europeans options are always priced very high but then their product is almost unmatched in its category.
We have Public Sector dominated Defence Industry which takes its own sweet time to develop anything. Its just that due to highly aggressive China, they are being forced by Govt and Forces to complete the projects faster and un time bound manner in last couple of years. You can see it by number of weapons we tested this year and year before that.
Will certainly not be the case with companies like Hanwaha and Samsung Techwin.
PS: DRDO is about to test longer range(200km) Astra mk2 with duel pulse motor for greater NEZ higher PK
There is nothing called Astra IR as per DRDO Docs.
This is what you can find
European-made air-to-air weapons perform very well. The problem is the quantity available for purchase. The high price of European-made air-to-air weapons would be very burdensome for the Korean Air Force. The ROK Air Force has nearly 1,000 US-made AMRAAM air-to-air missiles. During war, this quantity will also be insufficient. The Korean government has signed an agreement with the United States to allow the use of US military ammunition in wartime. However, unlike this, European-made ammunition has to be stocked up before the war. It will take a long time, but eventually domestic air-to-air weapons will be developed and distributed. European ammunition will be used in a transitional period. Just as India has plans to expand ASTRA to all of the Indian Air Force's tactical aircraft, Korea will eventually do so.
We most probably are also license producing the asraam if the photos in def expo are true..
This is very interesting... and like said already, with MICA NG things get even better...
But we are getting the most advanced Rafale F3R compared to others.
Unlikely to happen since Rafale production is expected to go on into the 2040s.
Astra IR is the equivalent of the R-27 series. The CCM is a completely different project.
The Astra went through 3 different designs, which is why it took so long. And that's only because we work on such systems without external assistance. But Korea works with external assistance, so it won't take so long.
By this logic we should’ve waited few more years and got NGFA.
On time induction of Rafale would have altered the result of Feb26-27 decisively and comprehensively in IAF favour. With Rafale the Balakote raid would have been much easier and PAF have never dared to lob anything towards us in fear of retaliation. And add to that the timely upgradation of Su30 with modern Radar, avionics and weapon package.
But No, instead we continued our circus of procurement and negotiations and thus IAF was forced to fly Mig 21s and Non-upgraded Su 30s.
I think even the aggression of Chinease also was added by our procurement paralysis.
We issue tenders, cancel them and again issue new tenders and repeat the cycle again in vertually all three forces.
Just look at this MMRCA drama or the Carbine tender or Sniper rifle or LMG/MMG. Its like our babus are happy playing Tender-Tender game
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@AbRaj this is how you should give a reply in forums, we are not here to see your disgusting sarcasm or tantrums.
The DGA has carried out the first flight tests of the future Rafale F4 HMS
At the end of January 2021, the DGA flight test centre carried out compatibility tests on the Thales Scorpion helmet sight* with the parachute evacuation of a Rafale pilot at the Cazaux site (Gironde). This test campaign is part of the process of integrating this equipment on the Rafale in the F4 standard.
The parachute evacuation compatibility tests, carried out before the first flights on the Rafale, reproduce all the rescue and survival phases of the Rafale pilot, from his ejection from the aircraft to his survival in the water. These tests make it possible to validate that the new equipment does not hinder the safety and rescue operations of the pilot.
After DGA Techniques Aéronautiques successfully carried out a series of ground tests, using only equipment and a dummy, DGA Essais en Vol developed and carried out a test campaign comprising:
Initially developed for the land combatant, the Scorpion helmet sight is perfectly suited for use on the Rafale. Its colour display can be used both day and night.
At the end of January 2021, the DGA flight test centre carried out compatibility tests on the Thales Scorpion helmet sight* with the parachute evacuation of a Rafale pilot at the Cazaux site (Gironde). This test campaign is part of the process of integrating this equipment on the Rafale in the F4 standard.
The parachute evacuation compatibility tests, carried out before the first flights on the Rafale, reproduce all the rescue and survival phases of the Rafale pilot, from his ejection from the aircraft to his survival in the water. These tests make it possible to validate that the new equipment does not hinder the safety and rescue operations of the pilot.
After DGA Techniques Aéronautiques successfully carried out a series of ground tests, using only equipment and a dummy, DGA Essais en Vol developed and carried out a test campaign comprising:
- a suspended harness test carried out on the ground on a gantry to verify the impact of the helmet sight on the application of procedures during parachute flight after ejection;
- a ground test to verify the release of the harness in the event of a tow during a landing in strong winds;
- a jump from an H225 helicopter by a fully equipped test parachutist. For this jump, the parachutist wore his combat waistcoat, anti-G trousers and survival pack, but also his harness and his reserve ventral parachute. This jump allowed us to validate all the rescue and survival phases by checking
- The correct deployment of the main parachute,
- The visualization and localization of the 2 canopy controls,
- The absence of discomfort during the landing and towing phases,
- The release of the parachute,
- Survival operations in the water.
Initially developed for the land combatant, the Scorpion helmet sight is perfectly suited for use on the Rafale. Its colour display can be used both day and night.
Random is poler opposite of myself. He has ability to tolerate a lot of nonsense without any anger or frustration.
So still you are not accepting that Astra IR program exist with DRDO.
Regarding non sense, you must understand that your way of reply is not making any sense most of the time, sarcasms is ok to some extand, but pouring your sarcasm each every occasions , its shows actually a manufacturing defect on u. Again, we cannot blame u for that manufacturing defect.
We are lucky the current govt is decisive and we got some Rafales out of any formal process. Otherwise we would still have been talking only about the next tender.
Some were the fault of the govt, some were the fault of the bureucrats, and some the forces.
Take the MRFA for example. Two years ago, the govt was open to sign a GTG deal for 90 more Rafales, with Indian production. But it's the IAF that shot it down saying they want a tender instead. So instead of signing a deal today, we are still talking about releasing the RFP. The IAF wants a new tender because it's been 10 years since the last one and new technologies need to be introduced that the IAF won't be aware of without the tender. And our requirements are stringent enough that it will take a few years to see a result. So sometimes even circumstances come into play. It did not help that Rahul Gandhi did his best to scuttle even the one that we signed.
Then there's really nobody's fault, although when I say "nobody" it's actually the forces' fault, but it still qualifies as nobody. Like the assault rifle tender, the requirements were so advanced and stringent that not even one OEM qualified. The OEMs called it unrealistic, while the army said that was what they wanted. In the end, the tender failed because the technology did not exist.
Right now all our main tenders are held up because the govt and private parties have not reached an agreement. This has been going on for 3 years now. And this time the forces are stuck. Now even the P-75I is stuck because of the small print in the SPM process.
Will Rafale be sold to Saudi Arabia?
According to the article, the French president will visit Saudi Arabia and the UAE soon and will offer to sell Rafale fighters instead of the F-35 to Saudi Arabia, whose diplomatic relations with the United States have recently waned. How likely do you think Rafale will actually be sold to Saudi Arabia? Currently, Saudi Arabia is already operating the 4.5th generation fighter jets, the F-15SA and Eurofighter. Are there any gaps for Rafale? And is the Saudis actually seeing the Rafale as a suitable replacement for the F-35?
https://fr.sputniknews.com/international/202103171045362547-vente-de-f35-et-darmes-de-precision-la-france-pourra-t-elle-doubler-les-americains-dans-le-golfe /
France seeks to take advantage of imbalance in US-Saudi ties
According to the article, the French president will visit Saudi Arabia and the UAE soon and will offer to sell Rafale fighters instead of the F-35 to Saudi Arabia, whose diplomatic relations with the United States have recently waned. How likely do you think Rafale will actually be sold to Saudi Arabia? Currently, Saudi Arabia is already operating the 4.5th generation fighter jets, the F-15SA and Eurofighter. Are there any gaps for Rafale? And is the Saudis actually seeing the Rafale as a suitable replacement for the F-35?
https://fr.sputniknews.com/international/202103171045362547-vente-de-f35-et-darmes-de-precision-la-france-pourra-t-elle-doubler-les-americains-dans-le-golfe /
France seeks to take advantage of imbalance in US-Saudi ties
The UAE hesitated for a long time between the Rafale and the F-35 and decided on the F-35 at the last moment of Trump's reign. Biden blocked the deal and since then there has been a lot of bad news about the F-35. So a good surprise with the UAE is possible.
For Saudi Arabia it is the Leclerc tank that interests them because the UAE used it in Yemen and that impressed all the military in contrast to the other tanks that had setbacks.
But the assembly line is stopped so I don't know if we would be able to satisfy their demand.