For 125Km, you need more than that. You need overlap. Plus there's Karachi.
But since PA plans to operate it, their VPs are mostly centered around Pakjab and the PoK.
Pakistans first High altitude SAM has been indicated
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For 125Km, you need more than that. You need overlap. Plus there's Karachi.
But since PA plans to operate it, their VPs are mostly centered around Pakjab and the PoK.
Pakistani Punjab = Pakjab, Pakistan + Punjab. It's like Brad + Angelina = Brangelina. You should be happy about it.
Even with same or similar weapons, the strategy may differ and hence the outcome too may differ.
War is a complicated thing, not as simple as you portray.
Plenty of examples available that two militaries using same weapon had very different results.
We will come to know the Location of these SAMs and Radars from HUMINT And ELINT sources , no big deal
Just as we knew what was inside Balakot
And once you know the location
We have the Following options
1 Brahmos
2 SCALP
3 Anti Radiation Missiles with 200 Km range
4 RAMPAGE missile
5 Prithvi , Prahar , Shaurya missile
6 Harop , Harpy drones
Well yes. That is not out of the realms of possibility, and so are many counter strategies from Pakistan.
War is like a chess game with many possibilities.
Sure, that's always there. But anything to do with the air has become too spec-heavy. Which is also why we can now work on jets that replace the pilot with computers. And air defence too has become largely automated, with controllers mainly deciding the deployment pattern and making command decisions.
At least in India, this has been the case since Akash, pretty much more than a decade now.
India Successfully Test Fires Improved Akash Missile
The Akash SAM system is capable of intercepting multiple manoeuvring aerial targets, unmanned aerial vehicles, cruise missiles and air-tosurface weapons launched by enemy aircraft from stand-off ranges
www.sps-aviation.com
So, as long as the SAM site is activated, a countermeasure that helped defeat Chinese SAMs will be equally effective, if not more.
SAMs are not really very flexible like fighter jets are.
They can deploy one near Rawalpindi other could be somewhere nearby Lahore or Sargodha under their northern command, for southern command they can select one nearby Quetta and one near by PNS Minhas , to protect military installations from any Indian air raid. They won't be deployed close to the IB that's my opinion. They will be moved bit closer in case of full scale war when battalions move , to give them air cover.
I heard that mrsam BMS is even more advanced.Sure, that's always there. But anything to do with the air has become too spec-heavy. Which is also why we can now work on jets that replace the pilot with computers. And air defence too has become largely automated, with controllers mainly deciding the deployment pattern and making command decisions.
At least in India, this has been the case since Akash, pretty much more than a decade now.
The advanced ‘Battlefield Management Software’ on the Akash, enables hands-free operation from target detection to its interception and destruction through automated threat computations, pairing targets with missile launchers, enabling fire control decisions and monitoring health of all combat elements.India Successfully Test Fires Improved Akash Missile
The Akash SAM system is capable of intercepting multiple manoeuvring aerial targets, unmanned aerial vehicles, cruise missiles and air-tosurface weapons launched by enemy aircraft from stand-off rangeswww.sps-aviation.com
So, as long as the SAM site is activated, a countermeasure that helped defeat Chinese SAMs will be equally effective, if not more.
SAMs are not really very flexible like fighter jets are.
HQ-9P/FD-2000 HIMADS Of Pakistan Army Detailed, Plus Seven New Indian DPSUs Launched
The Pakistan Army (PA) has procured only two Batteries of the HQ-9/FD-2000 LR-SAM, with each Battery comprising four TELs. The PA has to dat...
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FD-2000 has been phased out and there are no more manufacturing lines for that system.
HQ-9P/FD-2000 HIMADS Of Pakistan Army Detailed, Plus Seven New Indian DPSUs Launched
The Pakistan Army (PA) has procured only two Batteries of the HQ-9/FD-2000 LR-SAM, with each Battery comprising four TELs. The PA has to dat...
The system Pakistan got Isn't FD-2000, but a variant of HQ-9B
Yep. It's way more advanced, but Akash is catching up or has already caught up.
Sorry to break in here but Pakistani state (and I mean their military, deep state and people) have survived much worse not
only in recent but long past as well and still they have managed to keep floating one or another way. On the other hand we haven't fared any better as well going by the past yard stick. Any new technology in the hand of Pakistani state is further trouble for Indian state already in knee deep swampland. India couldn't/wouldn't/shouldn't do anything on breaking China Pakistan connection in past when there was no Nuclear element involved and now security diagram is getting further and further complex, made impossible already. I do consider it daydreaming when Indian people (many of our people concerned with Pakistani angle) think of taking punitive action, with the end result being fragmentation of Pakistani state in smaller states or merger in Indian state. As I had said long back during LAC incident, we don't have what it takes to take terminal decision, hence status quo will keep going on for the foreseeable future no matter how much drum beats noises are made from our side.
Many people do that out of frustration. Indians and Pakistani people are not any different in that respect.
Whatever be the version, I am taking the max range at least 150 KMs. It might not be as capable as Aster 30 probably for SAM role but it serves the purpose that matters the most for Pakistani state.
Since it's a two-stage missile, its SSKP could be better than a single stage design due to better endgame performance.
Yeah North Korea still is around after all too....able to call upon the chicoms for A B C paint and burnish tech too to stay current on deterrence and assured hostility ratios....to protect the family+khakis that starve the rest of population (And have found their red line to be where it is....like east asians have in general historically).
Though their brains and competence carries them further on a number of specifics anyway compared to pure land that sheds half its country all in one go overnight....and acts as complete pit of zero between persia and bharat when it comes to mind power of anything of note.
Point is what the atrophying does all around....things were looking on the up and up for them during kim 1 as well....but what is the status now?
The point is you simply have to grow and bulk yourself as much as possible to ride out the current chunk of miserable years to have more options for 50 and 100 years down road.
Guess what India decidedly didnt do for most of its independence while Hmmmin and haaaawing about stuff that should have been squared away easily? I can count the number of states that got basic education right on much less than 1 hand.....in fact just a few fingers.
I guess US didn't have what it takes to take terminal decision on Cuba either....when it very easily could have....far more than India at any point could have with Pakistan.
Such things can be found with each large country....the point is how you organise and manage *censored* neighbours long term by simply becoming big enough.
We shall be more than happy if Pakistan buys this Chinese Junk. Pakistan already operates operates one Chinese system which is not working well. Had Chinese system been good, why would China buy S400.