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Well if China does invade Taiwan, greedy people in the West caused it by manufacturing everything in China.
The only way China attacks Taiwan, especially with everything the guy said in his video, is if Winnie-Xi-Pooh goes completely stupid like Putin did. The IMPORTANT nations would unite like they did against Putin and sanction the hell out of them and could collapse the CCP as a government.
 
The only way China attacks Taiwan, especially with everything the guy said in his video, is if Winnie-Xi-Pooh goes completely stupid like Putin did. The IMPORTANT nations would unite like they did against Putin and sanction the hell out of them and could collapse the CCP as a government.
Hope you're right. Problem is Russia has all the oil and gas China needs, and China has all the RME both need. Their economy would still tank though and amphibious assaults are not easy, not even slightly.
 
Hope you're right. Problem is Russia has all the oil and gas China needs, and China has all the RME both need. Their economy would still tank though and amphibious assaults are not easy, not even slightly.
Taiwan has something Ukraine doesn't.... a lot of anti ship missiles and land attack cruise missiles able to hit hundreds of miles inside China. Oh yeah and a modern air force.
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The only way China attacks Taiwan, especially with everything the guy said in his video, is if Winnie-Xi-Pooh goes completely stupid like Putin did. The IMPORTANT nations would unite like they did against Putin and sanction the hell out of them and could collapse the CCP as a government.

This war's led China to realise that they are in the same boat as India, ie, both have their economies dependent on the ME and the West. There's no escaping that fact.
 
They will follow the gulf war strat. And will bombard taiwan with thousands of cruise and ballistic missiles before entering taiwan.
Probably, but they still have to make an amphibious assault. And if Russia's attempts on 50m of river at Seversky-Donets are anything to go by, 160km of sea may prove difficult.

Taiwan also has a very good air defence system, and Biden has pledged help. LRHW would be able to reach Chinese ports from Guam.
 
No way dude. India is in a much better position than China is including geographically.

India's economy is not as secure. The Chinese are less dependent on energy imports and forex as compared to India. And their population is better educated with better access to resources.

Geography is irrelevant in this case, since energy still has to come from outside the country.
 
and Biden has pledged help.

The real sticking point. Until a treaty is signed or it actually happens, it's just words.

And Taiwan needs to spend more, like buying more Abrams, and hopefully something better than the F-16.
 
What they need are lots of good SAMs and AShMs big and small. Big AShMs for the large ships, small ones like Brimstone and Sea Venom for the landing craft. If China can't land, they can't invade. Taiwan's best defence is the sea. Some mines, small submarines and patrol boats also. And a decent AA gun/laser/jammer for all the drones those dickheads are likely to use. Taiwan also need their own small drones. Plus a few cruise missiles, SRBMs and MRBMs to let China feel some pain too, especially the CCP in Beijing. Maybe also a few cells of saboteurs and assassins inside China too.

Some F-35s wouldn't go amiss either.
 
The most interesting result of this war will be the amount of western tech like failed Brimstones, bayraktars, javelins and other hardware that will be taken by Russian and researched and then sent to China.
We will see russian and chinese clones of nlaws and other western hardware. Even maybe russians and chinese clones of western small arms
They are not failed, they are overwhelmed by the shear numerical superiority of Russian weapons.
I saw many keralites were banging their butt out of joy when Hamaz rockets were able to penetrate Israeli Iron dome defense, they even started advertising that Iron dome is a failure. Bloody hell when you fire thousands of rockets at your enemy, all will not be defended successfully, similar thing is happening in Ukrain and along with inexperiences of Ukranian military with western weapons giving an impression that western weapon is failing, no its not.
Its a big lesson for US too, if you are keep using Russian weapons and in the event of Chinese invasion, things will be difficult for us even if managed to get weapon supply from west.


Us had alredy warned that idiot Zelenskyy , he didn't listen ans now paying the price. Had Ukrain shifted to westen weapons in from 2014, things would have been different.
2019 is our Ukrain's 2014. Like Ukrain we too did nothing, we all know how Russia misleaded india about Chinese troop movement by telling that its mere a regular military exercise, also they mediated talk between india and china in Russia, AFAIK the things decided in that meeting was hugely favoured china and later on we backed off from implementing the thing which were decided.
And US had given another warning to us as they did to Ukrain, here it is China Hardening Its Position Along LAC With India: US Defence Secretary

And now stop cheering for Russia and open your eyes.
 
They are not failed, they are overwhelmed by the shear numerical superiority of Russian weapons.
I saw many keralites were banging their butt out of joy when Hamaz rockets were able to penetrate Israeli Iron dome defense, they even started advertising that Iron dome is a failure. Bloody hell when you fire thousands of rockets at your enemy, all will not be defended successfully, similar thing is happening in Ukrain and along with inexperiences of Ukranian military with western weapons giving an impression that western weapon is failing, no its not.
Its a big lesson for US too, if you are keep using Russian weapons and in the event of Chinese invasion, things will be difficult for us even if managed to get weapon supply from west.


Us had alredy warned that idiot Zelenskyy , he didn't listen ans now paying the price. Had Ukrain shifted to westen weapons in from 2014, things would have been different.
2019 is our Ukrain's 2014. Like Ukrain we too did nothing, we all know how Russia misleaded india about Chinese troop movement by telling that its mere a regular military exercise, also they mediated talk between india and china in Russia, AFAIK the things decided in that meeting was hugely favoured china and later on we backed off from implementing the thing which were decided.
And US had given another warning to us as they did to Ukrain, here it is China Hardening Its Position Along LAC With India: US Defence Secretary

And now stop cheering for Russia and open your eyes.
When I'm talking about failed. I'm talking about the captured or munitions that didn't detonate.
 

Xi Jinping announces plans to allow Chinese military to undertake 'armed forces operations' abroad​

Analysts say China's leader Xi Jinping has set the legal basis for an expansion of the Chinese military's role in other countries, just weeks after Beijing signed a security pact with Solomon Islands.

With little published detail, Mr Xi's government declared he had signed off on a set of new trial outlines that allowed for Chinese "armed forces operations" that were not war.

Chairman Xi, as he is widely known in China in reference to his position as chairman of the Central Military Commission, signed off on 59 articles, according to state media, but they were not published.

Instead, government reports say they set a legal basis within China for the People's Liberation Army to "safeguard China's national sovereignty, security and development interests", according to an article in the Communist Party's media Global Times.
These operations can prevent spillover effects of regional instabilities from affecting China, secure vital transport routes for strategic materials like oil, and safeguard China’s overseas investments and personnel: experts Xi signs outlines that direct China’s military operations other than war - Global Times https://t.co/GfLiCTr5d5 pic.twitter.com/lBOgw9YrUg
— Global Times (@globaltimesnews) June 13, 2022

"Chinese troops can prevent spillover effects of regional instabilities from affecting China, secure vital transport routes for strategic materials like oil, or safeguard China's overseas investments, projects and personnel," the report in the Global Times said.

It also said the guidelines would define the military's role in activities that it already undertook, such as disaster relief, aid missions and peacekeeping.

Mr Xi's decision to promote and legally legitimise non-war "military operations" has raised eyebrows because it has come just months after Russian President Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine under the guise of a "special military operation".

Mr Putin still has not formally declared war on Ukraine despite the bloody invasion, and the timing of Mr Xi's declaration has caught the attention of observers in Taiwan, the self-ruled island that China claims ownership of.
An older Taiwanese woman in a mask with 'Keep Going Taiwan' while her face is obscured by a Taiwanese mask

The announcement comes after China recently said it would "fight to the very end" to stop Taiwanese independence.(Reuters: Pichi Chuang)

"I think it's definitely a copy of Putin's 'special operation' language," Eugene Kuo Yujen, an analyst with Taiwan's Institute for National Policy Research, said.

"And after what happened in Ukraine, it sends a very threatening signal to Taiwan, Japan and the surrounding countries in the South China Sea.
"I think Xi Jinping is trying to enhance China's grey-zone activities," Dr Kuo said, referring to acts that harm other states but fall below the definition of war.

Wu Qiang, an independent analyst in Beijing who previously taught at China's top university Tsinghua before being ousted for political reasons, also sees parallels with Vladimir Putin's language and his territorial claims to Ukraine.

"The way Beijing looks at it, a future mission to unify Taiwan would just be a continuation of the unfinished civil war of 1949," he told the ABC.
"So this is about seeking to define a future military intervention in Taiwan as a 'non-war' operation."

Dr Kuo says Mr Xi released news of the guidelines partly to offset political infighting within the military in the lead-up to a major reshuffle of the ruling Communist Party leadership later this year.

But he also believes it is linked to the recent security pact signed with Solomon Islands and a failed effort by China's Foreign Minister Wang Yi to convince other South Pacific nations to sign on to a similar agreement.
Wang Yi stands at a lectern in front of an Chinese and two Solomon Islands flags.

China recently signed a security deal with Solomon Islands, which caught the US and Australia off-guard. (AP: Mark Schiefelbein, file photo)

"They never released the full text of the agreement with the Solomon Islands but the media leaked the draft details and the language about protecting Chinese interests is exactly the same," Dr Kuo said.

Despite the failure of his region-wide push for a deal, Mr Wang last week published comments, making it clear China intended to continue pursuing closer ties with South Pacific nations.

"I believe there is a link [with the Solomon Security Pact]," Wu Qiang said.

"The Solomon Islands pact allows China's military to intervene in future if there's a precarious situation, or perhaps a coup or security issue.
"So these guidelines are about creating a legal basis for China to intervene."

And the guidelines appear to legitimise Chinese military forces intervening if Beijing's growing interests abroad are threatened.

Under Mr Xi's Belt and Road initiative, Beijing has loaned tens of billions of dollars to other countries to build infrastructure, which in some cases has reverted to Chinese ownership upon debt default.

A Chinese state-owned company is seeking to upgrade an airstrip in the highly strategic South Pacific nation of Kiribati, while in Australia, private Chinese company Landbridge has taken a 99-year lease on the strategically located Port of Darwin.

Whether threats to China's involvement in such projects are covered in the new legal framework remains unclear.

The new legal guidelines come as tensions between China and the US over Taiwan increase.
Navy personnel of Chinese People's Liberation Army stand in line, there are military aircrafts above and behind them.

Chinese state media says Mr Xi's order would provide a legal basis for protecting "property, and maintaining national sovereignty, security, development interests, and regional stability".(Reuters)

Reports have emerged that China has begun informing US counterparts at multiple levels that it does not recognise "international waters" in the Taiwan Strait.

US naval ships have this year made multiple transits through the strait, which is around 160 kilometres wide and separates China from Taiwan.

"There is no legal basis of 'international waters' in the international law of the sea," Wang Wenbin, a Chinese government spokesman, said
"It is a false claim when certain countries call the Taiwan Strait 'international waters' in order to find a pretext for manipulating issues related to Taiwan."

This move follows a previous claim from Beijing that it does not recognise a halfway "median" line in the strait that has long served to help keep Chinese and Taiwanese military jets separated.

"I think all these things are part of very integrated strategic thinking," Dr Kuo said.

Over the weekend, senior Chinese military general Wei Fenghe told a defence forum in Singapore that China would "fight to the end" to take control of Taiwan, and according to Chinese media, during a meeting with new Defence Minister Richard Marles, he reportedly also warned Australia to steer clear of the Taiwan issue.
 
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