Can we get EO/IR guidance for rockets? What's the cost of such systems? Like for comparison is the GPS/INS more costly or the Laser Guidance or others like TV or EO/IR?
Pinaka Multi Barrel Rocket Launching System
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Laser Guidance ammunition should be cheaper (but costs add from Laser designator) than GPS/INS (costs add from own/allied GNSS access) ammunition but not by much, but more accurate than GPS/INS provided ideal weather conditions. EO/IR/Radar will be costly for MLRS rockets.
good article from NATO's Libyan campaign time on PGMs not artillery/MLRS but principle remains same, Stand alone GPS/INS not that accurate
Laser Guided Bombs vs Geo-Targeted Weapons - Defense Update:
Laser guided bombs employ guidance kits enabling the weapon to home in on laser spots illuminating the target, designated by the launching aircraft, another platform or ground designator.
defense-update.com
For Artillery/MLRS GPS/INS and Laser guided is the norm until now.
APKWS-2 guidance is cheaper at about 25k USD
Laser Rocket Anti-Drone Systems Being Rushed To U.S. Forces In The Middle East
The Navy put in an order for new Electronic Advanced Ground Launcher System just ahead of Iran's missile and drone strikes on Israel.
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Nice.Laser Guidance ammunition should be cheaper (but costs add from Laser designator) than GPS/INS (costs add from own/allied GNSS access) ammunition but not by much, but more accurate than GPS/INS provided ideal weather conditions. EO/IR/Radar will be costly for MLRS rockets.
good article from NATO's Libyan campaign time on PGMs not artillery/MLRS but principle remains same, Stand alone GPS/INS not that accurate
Laser Guided Bombs vs Geo-Targeted Weapons - Defense Update:
Laser guided bombs employ guidance kits enabling the weapon to home in on laser spots illuminating the target, designated by the launching aircraft, another platform or ground designator.
For Artillery/MLRS GPS/INS and Laser guided is the norm until now.
APKWS-2 guidance is cheaper at about 25k USD
So, US feels laser based anti drone is better than IR/IIR based manpadsLaser Rocket Anti-Drone Systems Being Rushed To U.S. Forces In The Middle East
The Navy put in an order for new Electronic Advanced Ground Launcher System just ahead of Iran's missile and drone strikes on Israel.
We should have both types GPS/INS aided and Laser Guidance rockets. And for some special high value targets, maybe we can have a merger of EO/IR with GPS/INS.
Solar industry improved the production time of Mk2 Pinaka rockets from 55 days to 15 days.
Source AFI , read thro' I d r w.
Source AFI , read thro' I d r w.
Just watch the video interview above, at around 2 min 55 sec he mentioned time takes to make a rocket.
Thanks, used subtitles translate to know the info..
Plans are put forward to start expanding the production 4 times.
Mk1, grains are made separate and filled taking up longer time..
Enhanced version it's done with the tube reducing production time from 55 days to 15 days.
I think accuracy is difficult to achieve compared to mobility and reloading. We should work on that achieve ease of operation.
An unguided MBRL and a guided MLRS both have own use cases and battlefield engagement condition as well as operational ease perspective. It needs military level technical understanding when and where to use each.
Accuracy of the unguided system vs a guided one will always be up for debate, and as the engagement zone gets pushed out an older gen system would fare different compared to another. The nature of target still defines the case for use. for instance, MBRL are for large area saturation attack, an area that is not fixed target on the battlefield. The target zone is small and volatile , time bound ie a small enemy grouping neutralisation case. It can happen anywhere over a vast battlefield area in a short span and can also be either enemy dug in or grouped there for like half an hour when you struck. Volume over precision would be the need.
Now come to op specific, ease of operation has own pro & con. Its ok for a same 8x8 to carry multitude of weapons via pod system, you get to maintain less trucks and fire more types of weapons. But if the same 8x8 gets broken down , unless you have replacement there, you also face downtime as compared to having separate dedicated units for each. Say that you use smerch pinaka and prithvi all fired from same truck, if that truck is down for maintenance you either need replacements or dedicated separate unit available to cover the downtime.
Every article by those crooks is based on the efforts of other journalists without giving any credit at all.
True, So selection of rocket to be fired will depend on battle field scenario. If targets are moving such as tanks and artillery, no point in using guided variant. Batter use unguided one to save money by way of use of cost effective variants.
Current and planned Indian rocket artillery inventory.
BM-21 Grad - 5
BM-30 Smerch - 3
Pinaka Mk1 - 4
Pinaka Mk1 Guided/Enhanced - 6 (Under order)
Total 22 regiments of pinaka planned.
The Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) cleared on Wednesday the much-anticipated procurement of Indigenous Pinaka multi barrel rocket-launcher weapons system. Two contracts worth approximately Rs 10,000 crore are expected to be signed by the end of March this year, before the financial year ends.
The approval paves the way for two major contracts worth Rs 6,050 crore to be awarded to the lowest bidder Solar Group, the Nagpur-based private sector ammunition-maker and another contract worth approximately Rs 4,000 crore to the Defence Public Sector Unit, Munitions India Ltd. Both these companies will make two variants of ammunition–area denial munition (ADM) and Pinaka MKI enhanced range.
These contracts will support the Indian Army’s 10 Pinaka regiments, which complement its existing artillery strength comprising three Russian-origin Smerch and five Grad rocket regiments. While four Pinaka regiments have already been inducted—some deployed along the northern borders with China—six additional regiments are in the process of being operationalized. This expansion is expected to enhance the Army’s firepower and versatility, particularly in high-altitude combat scenarios.
The Pinaka system is regarded as one of the world’s premier multi-launch rocket systems. It is capable of delivering high-explosive pre-fragmented ammunition with a strike range of 45 km and area-denial munitions up to 37 km. The latter is designed to saturate target zones with bomblets, including anti-tank and anti-personnel mines, adding significant lethality to the arsenal.
The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has also developed extended-range variants of the Pinaka, capable of striking targets up to 75 km. Plans are to further enhance the range to 120 km and eventually to 300 km.
India is actively promoting the export of the Pinaka system alongside other indigenous defence products, such as the BrahMos supersonic cruise missile and the Akash air defence system. Armenia has already procured the Pinaka and Akash systems, and several ASEAN, African, and European nations have expressed interest in acquiring them.
In addition to the Pinaka contracts, the Army’s Regiment of Artillery is set to finalize another significant deal worth Rs 8,500 crore within this fiscal year for 307 indigenous Advanced Towed Artillery Gun Systems (ATAGS), which boast a strike range of 48 km.
BM-21 Grad - 5
BM-30 Smerch - 3
Pinaka Mk1 - 4
Pinaka Mk1 Guided/Enhanced - 6 (Under order)
Total 22 regiments of pinaka planned.
CCS Approves Rs 10000 Crore Procurement Of Indigenous Pinaka Rocket Systems
The Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) cleared on Wednesday the much-anticipated procurement of Indigenous Pinaka multi barrel rocket-launcher weapons system. Two contracts worth approximately Rs 10,000 crore are expected to be signed by the end of March this year, before the financial year ends.
The approval paves the way for two major contracts worth Rs 6,050 crore to be awarded to the lowest bidder Solar Group, the Nagpur-based private sector ammunition-maker and another contract worth approximately Rs 4,000 crore to the Defence Public Sector Unit, Munitions India Ltd. Both these companies will make two variants of ammunition–area denial munition (ADM) and Pinaka MKI enhanced range.
These contracts will support the Indian Army’s 10 Pinaka regiments, which complement its existing artillery strength comprising three Russian-origin Smerch and five Grad rocket regiments. While four Pinaka regiments have already been inducted—some deployed along the northern borders with China—six additional regiments are in the process of being operationalized. This expansion is expected to enhance the Army’s firepower and versatility, particularly in high-altitude combat scenarios.
The Pinaka system is regarded as one of the world’s premier multi-launch rocket systems. It is capable of delivering high-explosive pre-fragmented ammunition with a strike range of 45 km and area-denial munitions up to 37 km. The latter is designed to saturate target zones with bomblets, including anti-tank and anti-personnel mines, adding significant lethality to the arsenal.
The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has also developed extended-range variants of the Pinaka, capable of striking targets up to 75 km. Plans are to further enhance the range to 120 km and eventually to 300 km.
India is actively promoting the export of the Pinaka system alongside other indigenous defence products, such as the BrahMos supersonic cruise missile and the Akash air defence system. Armenia has already procured the Pinaka and Akash systems, and several ASEAN, African, and European nations have expressed interest in acquiring them.
In addition to the Pinaka contracts, the Army’s Regiment of Artillery is set to finalize another significant deal worth Rs 8,500 crore within this fiscal year for 307 indigenous Advanced Towed Artillery Gun Systems (ATAGS), which boast a strike range of 48 km.