Pralay and Shaurya: Conventional Strike Surface-to-Surface Missiles

yaar post pics.
As of now i disagree. None of Prithvi had stages and wont have.

PAD is shown in this picture?
This too has no separable stage. The missle wings are for lift, enabling quasi ballistic path. The rear small wings are for course correction inside atmosphere.

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I doubt the internal schematics have been revealed yet.

But I would go by this:
Aim for missiles to hit target
Regarding the PDV test, Mr Saraswat had told me, “The modified PAD will be PDV and it will have two changes. The first stage of PAD, which is a liquid motor, will be replaced by a solid motor stage with high energy levels. The second stage ‘kill vehicle’ has also been modified for higher interception accuracy. Earlier, in PAD, we had an RF (radio frequency) seeker. Now we are introducing Imaging Infra-Red (IIR) seeker also with higher accuracy. PDV will also have a ‘divert thruster’ on the second stage to bring better accuracy and controllability. The PDV will be one meter longer than PAD.”
 
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I dont know man..The wings in the "Middle" are too big and "In the middle" for being just a lame Ballistic missile. If they had to make a Ballistic missile, the wings could be shorter and at the back. Should have saved some drag. So there is a reason why Prithvi series have big wings in the middle, and then small movable canards right at the back
Wings has nothing to do with being quasi ballistic!.

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About "Chinese missiles in green", Nasr has Canards at the front and follows Quasi ballistic path.
All the others are ballistic in boost phase and then Re-entry vehicles follow Quasi ballistic to dodge or confuse enemy defenses
Yup I know it can be fired from underwater too.

About on what Pralay will be based, lets wait and see when actual pics are out. I bet you a fiver it will be modified PDV.
Yes it has same airframe.
 
Not really normal.
Why? Because at least the shell of Pralay is almost entirely made of composite materials instead of metals which Prithvi had.
So i was expecting a cut in weight.
Prithvi was also 5 ton-ish and this one with composite material is the same...does not make much sense, but there is an explanation.

We are supposed to pound you with heavy weights, dont expect anything light on you.
 
Janaab aap apnii choonch band rakhiyey. :ROFLMAO:
Hamaray bhii bahut lambay aur motay hain..... I mean missiles :p

Offcourse your missiles, was their even iota of any doubt or confusion for something else?

Dont even think of me not knowing what kind of medicines you are ordering from @Superkaif pharmacy since your teenage. :D
 
yaar post pics.
As of now i disagree. None of Prithvi had stages and wont have.

PAD is shown in this picture?
This too has no separable stage. The missle wings are for lift, enabling quasi ballistic path. The rear small wings are for course correction inside atmosphere.

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this is a very specific adaptation of Prithvi, not the Surface to Surface version. All kinds of changes have been made to make this an interceptor.
 
BTW here's warheads Prithvi carry..
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And this is how it disperse and shower fire...

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@safriz pakistan still doubts India's MIRV capabilities. Prithvi demonstrated M trajectory and this capabilities in 1980s... Now think what newer Indian missiles are capable of.

No doubt she jumping pig (Winnie the pooh) is crying.


You might already know this, but Just to clarify, what is portrayed in your post is DPICM/ bomblet dispersion type warheads which we have possessed for ever.

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The above is a 1 ton RDPS (Runway Denial penetration sub-munition ) warhead, it also come in 500 KG variant.

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This warhead is also the shower image in your post.

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The above is the Dual-Purpose Improved Conventional Munition the one in the image is representation of 500 KG, there is 1 ton flavor in this one.

and finally:
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DRDO calls the above one as the 500 composite, which combines the elements of both DPICM and RDPS. In addition there is also maximum destruction causing high explosive-DENTEX prefragmented and HEMEX-high density warheads on prithvi. And despite their simple looks these are the most destructive conventional warheads of BM's.

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Prithvi series will be replaced by stubbier and shorter prahar ( chota chetan )
 
Where is Pralay ? :mad:
Pralay gaya tel lene. Ab naya mizzile lelo jenab.

India to develop 200-km range tactical ballistic missile

The surface-to-surface missile, being developed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), has been named Pranash.


Updated: Feb 07, 2020 03:37 IST
Rahul Singh.
Hindustan Times, Lucknow
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The new weapon traces its origin to the Prahaar missile developed by the DRDO(PTI FILE/ Representative Image)

India is working on a new tactical ballistic missile capable of striking targets at a range of 200km, two top government officials said on Thursday on condition of anonymity.

The surface-to-surface missile, being developed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), has been named Pranash, the first official cited above told Hindustan Times at DefExpo 2020, a military systems’ exhibition organised by the Department of Defence Production that seeks to project India as hub for global defence manufacturing.

The new weapon traces its origin to the Prahaar missile developed by the DRDO, the official said. The Prahaar has a range of 150km but the army wanted a weapon with a better range, which is why Pranash is being developed, he added.

“The configuration of Pranash has been frozen and development trials will begin by 2021-end. We will be in a position to offer it for user trials in two years. The army wants a missile with a range in the region of 200km,” said a second official aware of the matter.

The non-nuclear Pranash missile will be propelled by a single-stage solid propellant engine, he added.

DRDO’s short-range Prithvi series of missiles with ranges of 150 to 350 km are nuclear-capable and powered by a liquid propellant engine that has its limitations. “Missiles with solid propellant engine are ready-to-use. However, liquid propellant engines can be complicated as the liquid propellant mixture has to be added before the launch,” the second official said.

India’s Agni series of nuclear-capable ballistic missiles can hit targets at different ranges between 700km and 5,500km.

Once developed, the Pranash missile could also be exported to friendly foreign countries, said the first official cited above.“It will be one of the cheapest missiles in the world in its range category. Also, the missile is outside the purview of the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR), which places export restrictions on missiles with ranges of more than 300km,” he said.

Increasing weapons exports is a top priority for the government. Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Wednesday said the country’s target was to clocks exports worth Rs 35,000 crore in the next five years.

This is in line with a draft Defence Production Policy, released in March 2018, that visualises India as one of the top five countries in the aerospace and defence sectors in the coming years. The PM said India had exported military hardware worth Rs 17,000 crore during the last two years, compared to Rs 2,000 crore in 2014.

This year’s DefExpo is being attended by ministers from almost 40 foreign countries.

India to develop 200-km range tactical ballistic missile
 
This is the new PDV and Pralay is based on this one. You can see more use of composites and the black dots above mid body which are sideways vernier thrusters for rapid directional changes and maneuvering outside atmosphere, something Prithvi never had.View attachment 3131
How iskander achieve maneuverability? Through jet viens or using thrust vectoring?
 
Pralay would be highly maneuvrable at the terminal stage to escape anti-missile systems. Also, expect it to follow the quasi-ballistic trajectory.
I'm yet to see any credible data on weight, no point arguing.
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@Saaho

Lora surface to surface missile, by IAI.

https://www.iai.co.il/p/lora

How this israeli missile weighs only 1.6 tonnes and capable to carry 650 kg warhead for 400 km distance, with hypersonic speed & 10 m accuracy?
 
How iskander achieve maneuverability? Through jet viens or using thrust vectoring?
Iskander has variants.
The most common variant uses jet vanes and movable rear fins.
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However there are some small solid motors arranged around the main motor nozzle as can be seen here.
These don't look like meant for maneuver but instead may be firing after main motor shut down and rotate the missile into more quasi ballistic or flatter path.
Thats why these small motors seem asymmetrically arranged.
 
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It's a supersonic SRBM, not hypersonic. It takes 10 min to cover that distance. You can say it's roughly mach 2.5 capable.
Still, you see the difference in weight. In battlefield more speed, the logistics is more important for a theatrical ballistic missile.
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@Saaho

Lora surface to surface missile, by IAI.

https://www.iai.co.il/p/lora

How this israeli missile weighs only 1.6 tonnes and capable to carry 650 kg warhead for 400 km distance, with hypersonic speed & 10 m accuracy?
@safriz you explain how this ballistic missile perfom like this with a light weight body? Hows even possible to have such range with such heavy warhead yet the total mass of missile is less than 2 tonnes.