I think these are just for representation purpose..... Actually design would probably vary a lot.
Project 18, Next Generation Destroyer (NGD) : News and Updates
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ofc there would be changes but this looks preetty solid notice the UNICORN ish mast and the design as a whole is unique as well unlike the previous design where they just copy pasted the italian NGD
NGD hasn't entered the concept design phase yet. This is a fan design
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Looks cool but just an artist's render isn't it? Nothing official.
At last year's Navy Day press conference, they gave a timeline of at least 5 years for P-18 to move from design to contract stage and around 10 years for delivery. But they did say it will be in the 10K ton displacement range and have fully indigenous combat systems.
The broad contours of the sensor and weapons fit are somewhat known:
LRMFR 6m dia flat panel AESA radar (possibly superstructure mounted like Aegis)
LRLACM
Hypersonics?
Brahmos 800km
Full suite of BMD and AD missiles from AD-1/2/Kusha/MRSAM/VLSRSAM/VSHORAD, CUAS etc.
Possible laser/DEW - 10KW laser apparently in the works for naval applications
Indigenous 127mm? (Kalyani?)
Indigenous 35mm CIWS? (Kalyani?)
HWT: Varunastra/Shakti
Sonar: HUMSA-NG++?
SSR- Scanter
Integrated mast: Possible design shown in some expo earlier
IEPS: MT-30?
Towed sonar: ?
The broad contours of the sensor and weapons fit are somewhat known:
LRMFR 6m dia flat panel AESA radar (possibly superstructure mounted like Aegis)
LRLACM
Hypersonics?
Brahmos 800km
Full suite of BMD and AD missiles from AD-1/2/Kusha/MRSAM/VLSRSAM/VSHORAD, CUAS etc.
Possible laser/DEW - 10KW laser apparently in the works for naval applications
Indigenous 127mm? (Kalyani?)
Indigenous 35mm CIWS? (Kalyani?)
HWT: Varunastra/Shakti
Sonar: HUMSA-NG++?
SSR- Scanter
Integrated mast: Possible design shown in some expo earlier
IEPS: MT-30?
Towed sonar: ?
You can see why NGD would take time if they intend to fit something like AD1 AD2 in it. These 2 are bmd system with at least 1 or both stages of 1400-1500mm rocket motor, esp AD2 end part 1700 mm. That is like launching K-4 A-4 kind missile from the deck, quite crazy from safety pov. I mean Brahmos firing looks formidable from the deck, just imagine such bmd stuff going off the deck next. The ship has to be very sturdy capable of handling the power of such high end hypersonic systems. Zircon or even K15 is nothing compared to a bmd article. AAD ship based like Anvesh is ok, high end exo bmd , kinda crazy idea to put on a destroyer ? Rather have a dedicated bmd ship.
True. AD-1, AD-2 are massive missiles. They are roughly our equivalent of US GBI interceptors.
So perhaps, a Kusha/XR-SAM/ER-SAM derivative will make it on-board P-18.
Though I don't see India going for a dedicated BMD ship like Japan's ASEV which is now expected to get multi-role capability itself, including Tomahawk/local Japanese LACM.
The cost would be a major sticking point.
OTOH, the US Zumwalt class DDG is getting large dia VLS for HGV (wave rider?) There's an emerging requirement for hypersonic interceptors too.
That class weighs in at about 13000t displacement iirc. Quite close to P-18 projected size.
I dont think BMD phase 2 is such big missile. US GBI are a different class of missile defending the continent. AD-1 and AD-2 will be more like SM-3 B2 or Arrow 3 more mobile not launched from silos.
Project 18 will have Kusha based interceptor which will be similar to SM-6 of USN. Navy requirement is more towards AshBMs not conventional BMs.
yes, PDV mk2 ASAT missile is more similar to GBI but still smaller than GBI
Correct, even there we know the location of the target before the launch. Its not dealing with a 10,000 km ICBM.
You're correct. They'll be closer to Aster-30 and SM-3 respectively as per an infographic shared by DRDO. Can't find it right now.
It looks like more like a Kirov + Arleigh Burke hybrid with a large fore deck VLS 'farm' and radars that look very similar to US SPG-62 which is part of Aegis combat system. No way we are getting that unless we sign up for Aegis itself.
I think Aegis/Mk41 was on offer to us earlier but we chose Elta-2248 MF-STAR instead.
I suspect that overall P-18 will turn out to be closer to a Type-055 than a German F-127/A-400. We are generally more conservative when it comes to warship design.
But there is a clear trend worldwide towards cruiser-class ships with deep draft for hypersonic/ASBM/BMD weapons. Everyone from the Brits, Italians, Germans, SoKo, Japan are working on them.