Rafale DH/EH of Indian Air Force : News and Discussions

Intersting curve from an incident (aborted take off) of a 21.5 T loaded Rafale
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So Jx at 21.5 T is above 0.5g at 16T is should be above 0.7g. Anyone thinks it can't take off from a STOBAR carier with skyjump?
No doubts about the ability of the Rafale-M to do such things from me. It’s just getting that deal going that will be the issue, glacial doesn’t even begin to describe the pace at which things are progressing on this front.

Modi 2.0 is surely the most positive development though in this hope.
 
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First Rafale In IAF Hands, Decks Cleared For Follow-on Order For 36

By Shiv Aroor Sep 21 2019
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RB 001, the 1st Rafale handed over to the Indian Air Force

With the first Rafale ‘handed over’ to the Indian Air Force on September 19 in France, proceedings have officially begun towards the commissioning of four jets into Indian service on October 8 at Merignac with India’s defence minister Rajnath Singh in attendance. The first jets in Indian hands also clear decks for something bigger that’s remained in suspended animation for months through India’s stormy election season — a follow-on order for 36 more Rafales for a total of 72 aircraft. It remains unclear when the Narendra Modi government will pull the trigger on a second deal, though there are strong indications that the groundwork has been laid.

The first Indian Rafales will arrive in India in April-May next year and populate their inaugural squadron, 17 Squadron ‘Golden Arrows’ in Ambala, Haryana. A second squadron will come up in Hasimara in India’s east. Indian Rafale pilots being trained in France have received several operational briefings on current Rafale operations in Iraq and Syria. On a visit to the French Navy’s Landivisiau air base in 2017, Livefist also received an overview of the Rafale in combat operations.

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In a surprise move being interpreted as support for the Rafale deal, the Modi Government this week named IAF vice chief Air Marshal Rakesh Bhadauria the next Chief of the Air Staff from the day he is slated to retire. As Deputy Chief, Bhadauria had led crucial negotiations with Dassault on the pricing and package that was finally signed. The IAF’s next man at the helm is, therefore, one who has witnessed every twist and turn of the deal from ringside and can, with the authority of his highest office, now see any follow-on deal for Rafales through. The ‘RB’ on the Indian Rafale tail numbers, incidentally, stand for ‘Rakesh Bhadauria’.

The first major indications that the Modi Government was prepared to power through with the Rafale deal despite an aggressive and unrelenting political controversy over the original 2016 deal came in March this year when Prime Minister Narendra Modi, speaking at the India Today Conclave, said the outcome of the post-Balakot air confrontation involving Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman would have been different if the IAF was using Rafales.

A second deal appeared afoot in March 2018 when the French government officially request the Indian MoD to reveal that the two countries were in discussions to conclude a deal for an additional 36 Rafale jets. All possibility of this quickly evaporated with the opposition Congress Party escalating its campaign against the 2016 Rafale deal and alleging corruption and cronyism. With the dust settling on the Rafale narrative following a massive election victory for the ruling Narendra Modi government — and the political potency of the Congress campaign proving a non-starter — the political legroom to revive intentions to add 36 Rafales to the order has increased. It is now known that that the Emmanuel Macron government in August officially refreshed its offer of 36 more Rafales to India on terms that take into account India’s ‘one-time’ investment component in the country-specific enhancements and infrastructure to support the aircraft in Ambala and Hasimara.

A national audit report on the Rafale deal is expected later this year, and could add to the harsh observations it had on the selection process — something that taints the Congress-led UPA government equally, if not more.

Beyond the IAF, the Rafale is also in contention for the Indian Navy’s carrier-borne fighter requirement for 57 aircraft. The Rafale prospectively goes up against Boeing’s F/A-18 Super Hornet for this contest. The navy’s contest is unlikely to make forward movement before the end of next year.

https://www.livefistdefence.com/201...decks-cleared-for-follow-on-order-for-36.html
 
With the first of 36 handed over, and a delivery schedule of 1/month, and a construction time of 3 years, it follows that if India orders a second tranche now, there will be no gap in delivery.
 
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With the first of 36 handed over, and a delivery schedule of 1/month, and a construction time of 3 years, it follows that if India orders a second tranche now, there will be no gap in delivery.

Yeah, pretty much what I used to say. We will now keep buying 12 Rafales every year until the mid-30s for the IAF alone.
 
With the end of the monsoon MODI must now know if it can spend money on military purchases.
As I had predicted at the start of monsoons, the withdrawal of monsoons has not began yet and it will rain even in the first half of Oct. Modi will be saving money for the war with Pakistan and the fresh orders for Rafale will happen only when the economic measures taken by govt show results.
 
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First Rafale In IAF Hands, Decks Cleared For Follow-on Order For 36

By Shiv Aroor Sep 21 2019
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RB 001, the 1st Rafale handed over to the Indian Air Force

With the first Rafale ‘handed over’ to the Indian Air Force on September 19 in France, proceedings have officially begun towards the commissioning of four jets into Indian service on October 8 at Merignac with India’s defence minister Rajnath Singh in attendance. The first jets in Indian hands also clear decks for something bigger that’s remained in suspended animation for months through India’s stormy election season — a follow-on order for 36 more Rafales for a total of 72 aircraft. It remains unclear when the Narendra Modi government will pull the trigger on a second deal, though there are strong indications that the groundwork has been laid.

The first Indian Rafales will arrive in India in April-May next year and populate their inaugural squadron, 17 Squadron ‘Golden Arrows’ in Ambala, Haryana. A second squadron will come up in Hasimara in India’s east. Indian Rafale pilots being trained in France have received several operational briefings on current Rafale operations in Iraq and Syria. On a visit to the French Navy’s Landivisiau air base in 2017, Livefist also received an overview of the Rafale in combat operations.

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In a surprise move being interpreted as support for the Rafale deal, the Modi Government this week named IAF vice chief Air Marshal Rakesh Bhadauria the next Chief of the Air Staff from the day he is slated to retire. As Deputy Chief, Bhadauria had led crucial negotiations with Dassault on the pricing and package that was finally signed. The IAF’s next man at the helm is, therefore, one who has witnessed every twist and turn of the deal from ringside and can, with the authority of his highest office, now see any follow-on deal for Rafales through. The ‘RB’ on the Indian Rafale tail numbers, incidentally, stand for ‘Rakesh Bhadauria’.

The first major indications that the Modi Government was prepared to power through with the Rafale deal despite an aggressive and unrelenting political controversy over the original 2016 deal came in March this year when Prime Minister Narendra Modi, speaking at the India Today Conclave, said the outcome of the post-Balakot air confrontation involving Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman would have been different if the IAF was using Rafales.

A second deal appeared afoot in March 2018 when the French government officially request the Indian MoD to reveal that the two countries were in discussions to conclude a deal for an additional 36 Rafale jets. All possibility of this quickly evaporated with the opposition Congress Party escalating its campaign against the 2016 Rafale deal and alleging corruption and cronyism. With the dust settling on the Rafale narrative following a massive election victory for the ruling Narendra Modi government — and the political potency of the Congress campaign proving a non-starter — the political legroom to revive intentions to add 36 Rafales to the order has increased. It is now known that that the Emmanuel Macron government in August officially refreshed its offer of 36 more Rafales to India on terms that take into account India’s ‘one-time’ investment component in the country-specific enhancements and infrastructure to support the aircraft in Ambala and Hasimara.

A national audit report on the Rafale deal is expected later this year, and could add to the harsh observations it had on the selection process — something that taints the Congress-led UPA government equally, if not more.

Beyond the IAF, the Rafale is also in contention for the Indian Navy’s carrier-borne fighter requirement for 57 aircraft. The Rafale prospectively goes up against Boeing’s F/A-18 Super Hornet for this contest. The navy’s contest is unlikely to make forward movement before the end of next year.

https://www.livefistdefence.com/201...decks-cleared-for-follow-on-order-for-36.html

Either we are capping at 72 or going for more than 250..

Offsets proceeded smoothly?

Safran - Kaveri?
 
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As I had predicted at the start of monsoons, the withdrawal of monsoons has not began yet and it will rain even in the first half of Oct. Modi will be saving money for the war with Pakistan and the fresh orders for Rafale will happen only when the economic measures taken by govt show results.

So when do you predict war to be happening? And will it be only with Pak or China will be involved too?
 
Rafale maker Dassault to set up unit in Uttar Pradesh's defence corridor

Besides Dassault, several other big companies of defence sector including General Dynamics, Rills Royce, Airbus, Saab, etc met the delegation of Uttar Pradesh government during the recently held Defence Expo in London.

Written By : Zee Media Bureau
Edited By : Tanweer Azam
Updated : Sep 24, 2019, 15:41 PM IST
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Uttar Pradesh government has allowed French company Dassault Aviation to set up a unit in the state's upcoming defence corridor. It is to be noted that Dassault Aviation is the same firm which manufactures Rafale fighter jet. The company was recently in the news after Congress had raised over Prime Minister Narendra Modi's decision to give the contract for Rafale jet to Dassault Aviation bypassing the government procedure.

Besides Dassault, several other big companies of defence sector including General Dynamics, Rills Royce, Airbus, Saab, etc met the delegation of Uttar Pradesh government during the recently held Defence Expo in London. Sources told Zee Media that the delegation of Uttar Pradesh met the representatives of 25 companies and during the meeting, all these companies have urged the state government to give them huge piece of land for the setting up of Testing Range.

Uttar Pradesh government officials said that it is likely that these companies would be given 25-30 acre of land at Babina in Jhansi. It is learnt that several defence companies have expressed their willingness to attend the Defence Expo which will be organised in Lucknow from February 5-7.

Rafale maker Dassault to set up unit in Uttar Pradesh's defence corridor
 
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