Rafale DH/EH of Indian Air Force : News and Discussions

Janardan Shukla said:
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From the perspective of an American pilot on the video:

1/n In the full video, F-22 initially goes into classical flat scissors trying to force the Rafale to overshoot. Rafale follows it with a series of high yo-yo maneuvers to maintain a lag pursuit & keep the F-22 in bore-sight. Two things to note here: ..... (contd.)

2/n Rafale has excellent nose pointing authority, both pitch & sustained turn rate even at such low speeds of 200 kts. The fact that it kept the F-22 in its boresight for the most part is a testament of its delta wing+canard design & an excellent low speed maneuverability.

3/n Wonder why the F-22 never employed thrust vectoring to bleed substantial amounts of energy quickly, force an overshoot & then recover using its superior T:W ratio at 10000 ft. I guess the use of thrust vectoring was barred to balance the fight?

4/n Even when fighting purely on the basis of energy & turn rate performance, F-22 maintained a superior sustained turn rate never allowing the rafale to gain a lead pursuit for a guns solution. But with high-off boresight missiles lead pursuit has increasingly become irrelevant.

5/n Reason why F-22 never or could not employ thrust vectoring: 1.) In a furball with a bandit at your six, employing thrust vectoring would further bleed your energy leaving you with lesser room to out maneuver in case of a Fox-2 launch. (contd...)

6/n 2.) Note that the dog-fight started at 12,000 ft. Devolving to 6,000 ft. by the time they dis-engaged. Clearly the F-22 in a bid to force an overshoot bled a lot of energy, trying to gain some by losing alt. Thrust vectoring at such low alt. would leave no room to gain energy

7/n With the HUD cam footage there is an impression that F-22 out-turns the rafale. But a prolonged furball is bound to get slower at some point (<250 kts), a realm where the rafale truly shines. With HOBS missile & excellent nose pitching authority Rafale can be tough to beat.
 
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Picdelamirand-oil said:
From the perspective of an American pilot on the video:

1/n In the full video, F-22 initially goes into classical flat scissors trying to force the Rafale to overshoot. Rafale follows it with a series of high yo-yo maneuvers to maintain a lag pursuit & keep the F-22 in bore-sight. Two things to note here: ..... (contd.)

2/n Rafale has excellent nose pointing authority, both pitch & sustained turn rate even at such low speeds of 200 kts. The fact that it kept the F-22 in its boresight for the most part is a testament of its delta wing+canard design & an excellent low speed maneuverability.

3/n Wonder why the F-22 never employed thrust vectoring to bleed substantial amounts of energy quickly, force an overshoot & then recover using its superior T:W ratio at 10000 ft. I guess the use of thrust vectoring was barred to balance the fight?

4/n Even when fighting purely on the basis of energy & turn rate performance, F-22 maintained a superior sustained turn rate never allowing the rafale to gain a lead pursuit for a guns solution. But with high-off boresight missiles lead pursuit has increasingly become irrelevant.

5/n Reason why F-22 never or could not employ thrust vectoring: 1.) In a furball with a bandit at your six, employing thrust vectoring would further bleed your energy leaving you with lesser room to out maneuver in case of a Fox-2 launch. (contd...)

6/n 2.) Note that the dog-fight started at 12,000 ft. Devolving to 6,000 ft. by the time they dis-engaged. Clearly the F-22 in a bid to force an overshoot bled a lot of energy, trying to gain some by losing alt. Thrust vectoring at such low alt. would leave no room to gain energy

7/n With the HUD cam footage there is an impression that F-22 out-turns the rafale. But a prolonged furball is bound to get slower at some point (<250 kts), a realm where the rafale truly shines. With HOBS missile & excellent nose pitching authority Rafale can be tough to beat.
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Yeah I have also read the subsequent tweets 😀😀😀😀
 
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first Rafales in IAF colours
 
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Latécoère s'implante en Inde
Latécoère s'implante en Inde

Translation
Latécoère sets up in India

Latécoère has just inaugurated a 4,400 m2 plant in Belagavi, India, to support Dassault Aviation on the Falcon 2000 and to carry out the Thales avionics wiring contract.

On September 10, Latécoère inaugurated its new plant in Belagavi, India, in the State of Karnataka. With a total surface area of 4,400 m2, this new site is dedicated to the manufacture of the main harness for the Falcon 2000 radio navigation system and, in the long term, the main octopus of the same aircraft. Latécoère is thus supporting Dassault Aviation, which began production of the Falcon 2000 nose fuselage at its Indian site in Nagpur. The objective is to achieve the production and complete assembly of a Falcon 2000 in India. Latécoère's Belagavi site will also execute the Thales avionics cabling contract for aircraft such as the Boeing B777, B737 and Airbus A320 and many airlines (Emirates, British Airways and Qatar). Currently employing 70 people, the new plant is expected to reach 300 employees by 2022.

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We should get the hammers as well..... I don't think it is as same as the SPICE. Even though both are guided munitions SPICE is a glide bomb and Hammer is an A-G missile.
 
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