China would destroy India with a limited conflict.
You should revisit Desert Storm. After 2 weeks of air power, there was little left on the ground and anything left had its engine turned off to avoid detection from the air, and was easy prey.
You should revisit Desert Storm. After 2 weeks of air power, there was little left on the ground and anything left had its engine turned off to avoid detection from the air, and was easy prey.
Yes but China beat you in the last war. That's the difference.
Sino-Indian War - Wikipedia
Who is the much bigger enemy?
I agree with the last statement.
Please read about the Iraq Iran conflict. In spite of having what you claim to be the 4 th strongest military ( in the same breath, you also indicate that they didn't have air superiority) as per some yardstick, uniquely your own, they were forced into a stalemate by the Iranians.
All this, when they had the support of the entire Arab world, with the French & Russians playing Santa Claus, selling them their choicest arms.
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China would have the upper hand, but there's always a danger that this conflict won't be restricted to the border areas. There's a very strong chance that the situation would escalate enough to get the Navy involved, in which case we can choke off supplies in the Malacca & Lombok straits.
This isn't as easy as your simplistic mind comprehends it to be.
India is no Iraq occupying Kuwait and China is no USA and Indian geography is no Middle East. You can only stretch an analogy so far. The situation is not even comparable.
The simplest part : Iraq could have never attacked US carrier groups or US airfields anywhere. India can attack Chinese airbases in Tibet and elsewhere.
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They actually did launch Silkworm AShMs but they were shot down. China can attack everything in India with more firepower than India can throw back, and with air superiority.
Yes but they have hundreds more jets that can be mid-air refuelled or moved there.
Many have though, yet they see the NK deterrent as making the US quiver. Please. The US has decommissioned more warheads than NK has ever built.
Indian Navy vs Chinese Navy = Easy win for China. This is the problem, you are outgunned in the air and at sea.
The Iranians were stronger in the air too. They had F-14s with the AIM-54 remember, which back then was state-of-the-art. They also had F-4s and Cobras armed with AIM-9s. meanwhile Iraq had MiG-23s and MiG-25s - not match for F-14 and Mirage F1 - POS.
Those AESAs (actually, some analysts still argue they are really PESAs) are in the same boat as everything else that's Chinese in this league...don't really know if they're good or if they just slapped a new array onto the same evolutionary development of N011 Bars that existed since 90s and calling it a new radar. I have little doubt that RBE-2AA is a better radar overall, even though Rafale nose is nowhere as big as Flanker's and there's far fewer of them. The planned Su-30MKI upgrade should incorporate a Tikhomirov AESA derived from Su-57's N036 Byelka - if/when that comes that'll very likely be better than J-20's radar actually (because again, Flanker nose is huuuge), let alone J-11B or J-10B/C.
Even if it doesn't for some reason, the consistently upgraded N011M Bars (went through three iterations since induction) on the MKIs is not a weak radar by any means. A healthy mix of MKI and its big *censored* PESA, Rafale with its AESA and Meteor, should be very much able to secure an upper hand in the air.
So do we. Actually the Army has already inducted ~400 rounds (divided into 4 regiments if I remember correctly) of the ground-launched BrahMos Block-II/III with a reach of ~550km or above (we know the range restrictions have been lifted). And at least half of them are available for the Chinese front. Block-III was specifically developed for the Chinese.
Not to mention Nirbhay and the other systems set to come online in the next couple years.
S-400s shouldn't have a problem defending against short ranged BMs (if put to that role), although no one's saying they'll shoot down each and every missile China fires into our airspace. It won't...but neither will China shoot down all of ours. And there's actually far fewer targets we have to take out on the Chinese side to cripple the war effort. On the Indian side a LOT more facilities can help the effort, so more possible targets.
Long answer short...I don't see either side able to treat this conflict as a walk in the park.
The Iranians were completely isolated minus many of their personnel lost to defections , arrests, assassinations , lack of spares, qualified mechanics etc.
Here, murphy, educate yourself before you go shooting that Golden mouth of yours -
Persian Cats | Military Aviation | Air & Space Magazine
https://warisboring.com/in-the-iran-iraq-war-f-5s-and-mig-21s-fought-to-a-standstill/
P. S - besides, if the Iraqis had the "4 th strongest military " As per your earlier post, then how does it square with your latest post of the Iranians being stronger than the Iraqis? Please don't embarass yourself. Listen to some boring tunes and post the links in your favourite thread out here.
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Educate yourself on Indian history before talking man. Post 1965, China has tried at-least 3 times to change the status quo. Each time, it was unchanged. In Doklam, for the first time we initiated aggressive action by crossing borders. Guess what happened?
Read about 1967 and 1987. The Chinese tried invading, were beaten back and had to come to the negotiating table and accept the sanctity of LAC and de jure acceptance of Arunachal Pradesh. In 1967, they realised Sikkim will become Indian territory. Something they wanted for themselves.
In the Doklam, they tried intervening in the chicken neck area, which we are consider our strategic area of interest. Guess what happened there? We crossed the border and asked them to vacate an area which they consider theirs.
Here is something more for you. Both countries, while adversarial are not nuts like our western neighbours. If China, settles the Indo-China border issue, you will see India leave the anti China camp in an instant. Then they will leave the Chinese to deal with the South China Sea, while we deal with the nuts to the west.
Nathu La and Cho La clashes - Wikipedia
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Out last 'war' with China was '67. The Chola incidence. We were able to take over Sikkim and China since then have acknowledged Sikkim as a state of India.
'62 was inconsequential as far as any territorial change goes. India was at its weakest during this war owing of a complete neglect to intelligence and military by Nehru and yet the war was large inconsequential as far as political goals of China go. It however ensured that India would be more than ready for the next wars. '67 and '71.
The US of Father-loving A.