Shivalik-class & Nilgiri-class (Project 17 A/B) Frigates : Discussions

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A relatively new image of modernized INS Trishul F43. Few changes which I can notice are:

1. Lynx FCR for Puma FCR.
2. Scanter 6000 for Garpun.
3. SRGM for AK-100.
4. Brahmos for Klub.

The other change I wish for is getting rid of Fregat MEM and MR-90 illuminators with an indigenous X/S band AESA radar and replacing the Shtil Arm Launcher with VL-SRSAM.
3. SRGM for A-190E*
5. AK-630M for Kashtan CIWS
 
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A relatively new image of modernized INS Trishul F43. Few changes which I can notice are:

1. Lynx FCR for Puma FCR.
2. Scanter 6000 for Garpun.
3. SRGM for AK-100.
4. Brahmos for Klub.

The other change I wish for is getting rid of Fregat MEM and MR-90 illuminators with an indigenous X/S band AESA radar and replacing the Shtil Arm Launcher with VL-SRSAM.
True, such a move will declutter the ship and make the defences more effective.
 
There are no such delays expected from MDL. This update is from August.

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The claims are outrageous. Do not fall for tweet-baits. Going for CCS means massive design changes from the navy and upward cost revisions, which are extremely unlikely for a follow-on design.
Here in this image, I think
summaries = submarines #5 P-75 has been transferred to IN and #6 will handed over at the end of this year or the beginning of the next year.

Regarding P-15B and P-17A they say it will stretch till mid or end of 2027 instead of 2025. So IMO, there definitely seems to be some kind of delay. #3 P-15B will most likely be handed over this year and #4 may be at the end of next year.

The delay seems to be regarding P-17A only. May be the first one will get commissioned at the end of 2024 or the start of 2025 and then from there onwards till 2027.

Even GRSE has mentioned they will deliver the first ship in mid of 2025.
 
Here in this image, I think
summaries = submarines #5 P-75 has been transferred to IN and #6 will handed over at the end of this year or the beginning of the next year.

Regarding P-15B and P-17A they say it will stretch till mid or end of 2027 instead of 2025. So IMO, there definitely seems to be some kind of delay. #3 P-15B will most likely be handed over this year and #4 may be at the end of next year.

The delay seems to be regarding P-17A only. May be the first one will get commissioned at the end of 2024 or the start of 2025 and then from there onwards till 2027.

Even GRSE has mentioned they will deliver the first ship in mid of 2025.
One year delay was communicated during covid time.

GRSE is still sticking to the timeline of last ship by 2026.
 
Actually no, that ship is of Royal Thai Navy. It is called Bhumibol Adulyadej-class frigate. It is designed by DSME in South Korea.

This is the UNICORN. It is present on Mogami class frigate of Japanese Navy.
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Japanese and French frigates are so damn clean and sexy looking. I'm presuming the comms antenna seen here will be fitted on the next class of IN frigates?
 
I hope I am wrong but I am starting to feel that IN might ditch MFSTAR + MRSAM for P-17 class. First ship was commissioned in 2011 and they gave clearance of Brahmos for the ship which will go onboard during the MLU which should happen this decade. It is again going the P-15 route. Or there is a possibility that they give clearance in the future for the MFSTAR.
 
I hope I am wrong but I am starting to feel that IN might ditch MFSTAR + MRSAM for P-17 class. First ship was commissioned in 2011 and they gave clearance of Brahmos for the ship which will go onboard during the MLU which should happen this decade. It is again going the P-15 route. Or there is a possibility that they give clearance in the future for the MFSTAR.
IN should be moving away from MFSTAR for an Indian equivalent. Sensors and Barak 8 are the most expensive part of the these class of ships.
 
PSG is saying that the DAC approval of December 2022 included some approval of funds for NG-DDG and P-17AU* which were kept hidden. Though, I'm not sure about the credibility.
 
Intersting thing I observed that P-15A carries only 2 SRCG where as P11356 carries 4 SRCG.

Even though P-15B carries 4 SRCG why they have put only 2 SRCG on P-15A.

I can see only 2 SRCG on Talwar class and none on the other ship ....