Perfect.
Its possible that F45 was deployed in persian gulf where the need for force protection was higher ... <guess>
Shivalik-class & Nilgiri-class (Project 17 A/B) Frigates : Discussions
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Perfect.
Its possible that F45 was deployed in persian gulf where the need for force protection was higher ... <guess>
Just my thoughts:
We have a requirement of 24 frigates. We already have 12 frigates in our service and we are building another 11. We are lacking 1 to reach out required goal.
The plan to procure two different types of frigates to meet the required numbers faster was good but it was not executed correctly.
The plan as of now is to have 7 P-17A frigates and 4 P-11356 frigates. What should have happened was that we could have gone for 9 P-17A and 3 P-11356 frigates.
The 9 P-17A frigates could have been built by 4 MDL, 3 GRSE and 2 GSL and then we could have directly purchased the 3 P-11356 from Russia.
But what we did was we purchased 2 frigates directly and are building another 2 locally. This left 1 hull which was already under fabrication, unutilized.
Due to all of this, we are getting 7 frigates with AESA and true VLS. Rest 4 frigates are without any proper AESA radar and VLS SAM.
We have a requirement of 24 frigates. We already have 12 frigates in our service and we are building another 11. We are lacking 1 to reach out required goal.
The plan to procure two different types of frigates to meet the required numbers faster was good but it was not executed correctly.
The plan as of now is to have 7 P-17A frigates and 4 P-11356 frigates. What should have happened was that we could have gone for 9 P-17A and 3 P-11356 frigates.
The 9 P-17A frigates could have been built by 4 MDL, 3 GRSE and 2 GSL and then we could have directly purchased the 3 P-11356 from Russia.
But what we did was we purchased 2 frigates directly and are building another 2 locally. This left 1 hull which was already under fabrication, unutilized.
Due to all of this, we are getting 7 frigates with AESA and true VLS. Rest 4 frigates are without any proper AESA radar and VLS SAM.
What's the point of this imaginary numbers and what could have been talk? Is there a white paper and requirements that was published?
There is no such rule that frigates should always have AESA radar, that's just very expensive.
P-17A is one of the most expensive frigates even compared to European standards.
Photos of 2 Nilgiri class frigates from GRSE Shipyard, dated February 2023:
INS Himgiri at the GRSE outfitting yard:
Radar masts, smoke stacks has been integrated. You can see the RBU-6000s on the fore deck. Work on the Barak 8 & Brahmos VLS on the fore deck are nearing completion. No MF-STAR yet, that's a bummer.
Another Nilgiri class frigate under-construction at Yard no. 3024. This is the last vessel of the class being made at GRSE. This ship hasn't been officially named yet. It will probably be called INS Vindyagiri or INS Mahendragiri when launched.
Couldn't find any recent photos of INS Dunagiri. That ship is probably undergoing engine & propulsion systems integration now.
INS Himgiri at the GRSE outfitting yard:
Radar masts, smoke stacks has been integrated. You can see the RBU-6000s on the fore deck. Work on the Barak 8 & Brahmos VLS on the fore deck are nearing completion. No MF-STAR yet, that's a bummer.
Another Nilgiri class frigate under-construction at Yard no. 3024. This is the last vessel of the class being made at GRSE. This ship hasn't been officially named yet. It will probably be called INS Vindyagiri or INS Mahendragiri when launched.
Couldn't find any recent photos of INS Dunagiri. That ship is probably undergoing engine & propulsion systems integration now.
Upgraded INS Trishul with:
1. SRGM
2. Scantar SSR
3. Lynx FCR
4. Brahmos VLS
5. AK-630M CIWS
6. SRCG - 04
1. SRGM
2. Scantar SSR
3. Lynx FCR
4. Brahmos VLS
5. AK-630M CIWS
6. SRCG - 04
Looks like they got rid of the Kashtan CIWS - will see see Barak 1/8 installed on this?
How we are guiding SRGM on P-17 class frigates?
We use Garpun/Lynx FCR for SRGM on almost all class of ships except P-15A/B. But P-17 has replaced it's Garpun with Scantar SSR. Is it using th Scantar for guiding the SRGM?
We use Garpun/Lynx FCR for SRGM on almost all class of ships except P-15A/B. But P-17 has replaced it's Garpun with Scantar SSR. Is it using th Scantar for guiding the SRGM?