Shivalik Class (Project 17 A/B) & Talwar Class Frigates

marich01 said:
Advanced Missile Frigate 1135.6 (follow-on Talwar class) by Goa shipyard.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1584758559882940416

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The arm launcher is still there. Let's see if it will be present on the actual warship on not. One more thing to notice, it carries SRGM.
Ankit Kumar said:
One of the Talwar class after its repair already sports a SRGM. This feature will likely be adopted uniformly.
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Yes F43 sports SRGM along with two 12.7mm SRCG.
 
marich01 said:
INS Shivalik in Japan
@Fatalis

https://twitter.com/x/status/1587666872161685507

https://twitter.com/x/status/1587666087084101636

Is this the Unicorn structure on the ship docked in left, that we were talking about few days ago? Which is Japan might offer/we are developing?

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Actually no, that ship is of Royal Thai Navy. It is called Bhumibol Adulyadej-class frigate. It is designed by DSME in South Korea.

This is the UNICORN. It is present on Mogami class frigate of Japanese Navy.
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Russia has already delayed the delivery of two Talwar-class stealth frigates for up to six months.

www.moneycontrol.com

Crucial Russian defence supplies to India delayed

With no end in sight to the war in Ukraine, Russian supply lines are disrupted; New Delhi is waiting for the advanced S-400 air defence systems; Moscow has postponed delivery of Talwar Class stealth frigates; shortages prompt massive military indigenisation plan
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Tatvamasi said:
Russia has already delayed the delivery of two Talwar-class stealth frigates for up to six months.

www.moneycontrol.com

Crucial Russian defence supplies to India delayed

With no end in sight to the war in Ukraine, Russian supply lines are disrupted; New Delhi is waiting for the advanced S-400 air defence systems; Moscow has postponed delivery of Talwar Class stealth frigates; shortages prompt massive military indigenisation plan
www.moneycontrol.com www.moneycontrol.com
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Just a few days back Avadi rolled out more refurbished T-72 tanks.

The article has only 1 correct point, the delays in deliveries of S400. And that's written in just 2 lines.

Rest everything else is more or less false. Written with an agenda.

Large scale tank exercises have been replaced by numerous smaller combined arms exercise. Almost every week a complex Armour exercise happens in some sector. That is unprecedented. This pretty much proves that the T-72 and T-90 availability are good enough.

As for Russian systems taken out in Ukraine, 20+ M777 , Ceaser, Panzer Howitzer of Germany all are facing large number of losses. Does this mean they are of bad quality?
 
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A relatively new image of modernized INS Trishul F43. Few changes which I can notice are:

1. Lynx FCR for Puma FCR.
2. Scanter 6000 for Garpun.
3. SRGM for AK-100.
4. Brahmos for Klub.

The other change I wish for is getting rid of Fregat MEM and MR-90 illuminators with an indigenous X/S band AESA radar and replacing the Shtil Arm Launcher with VL-SRSAM.
 
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Fatalis said:
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A relatively new image of modernized INS Trishul F43. Few changes which I can notice are:

1. Lynx FCR for Puma FCR.
2. Scanter 6000 for Garpun.
3. SRGM for AK-100.
4. Brahmos for Klub.

The other change I wish for is getting rid of Fregat MEM and MR-90 illuminators with an indigenous X/S band AESA radar and replacing the Shtil Arm Launcher with VL-SRSAM.
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3. SRGM for A-190E*
5. AK-630M for Kashtan CIWS
 
Fatalis said:
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A relatively new image of modernized INS Trishul F43. Few changes which I can notice are:

1. Lynx FCR for Puma FCR.
2. Scanter 6000 for Garpun.
3. SRGM for AK-100.
4. Brahmos for Klub.

The other change I wish for is getting rid of Fregat MEM and MR-90 illuminators with an indigenous X/S band AESA radar and replacing the Shtil Arm Launcher with VL-SRSAM.
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True, such a move will declutter the ship and make the defences more effective.
 
Ashwin said:
There are no such delays expected from MDL. This update is from August.

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The claims are outrageous. Do not fall for tweet-baits. Going for CCS means massive design changes from the navy and upward cost revisions, which are extremely unlikely for a follow-on design.
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Here in this image, I think
summaries = submarines #5 P-75 has been transferred to IN and #6 will handed over at the end of this year or the beginning of the next year.

Regarding P-15B and P-17A they say it will stretch till mid or end of 2027 instead of 2025. So IMO, there definitely seems to be some kind of delay. #3 P-15B will most likely be handed over this year and #4 may be at the end of next year.

The delay seems to be regarding P-17A only. May be the first one will get commissioned at the end of 2024 or the start of 2025 and then from there onwards till 2027.

Even GRSE has mentioned they will deliver the first ship in mid of 2025.
 
Fatalis said:
Here in this image, I think
summaries = submarines #5 P-75 has been transferred to IN and #6 will handed over at the end of this year or the beginning of the next year.

Regarding P-15B and P-17A they say it will stretch till mid or end of 2027 instead of 2025. So IMO, there definitely seems to be some kind of delay. #3 P-15B will most likely be handed over this year and #4 may be at the end of next year.

The delay seems to be regarding P-17A only. May be the first one will get commissioned at the end of 2024 or the start of 2025 and then from there onwards till 2027.

Even GRSE has mentioned they will deliver the first ship in mid of 2025.
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One year delay was communicated during covid time.

GRSE is still sticking to the timeline of last ship by 2026.
 
Fatalis said:
Actually no, that ship is of Royal Thai Navy. It is called Bhumibol Adulyadej-class frigate. It is designed by DSME in South Korea.

This is the UNICORN. It is present on Mogami class frigate of Japanese Navy.
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Japanese and French frigates are so damn clean and sexy looking. I'm presuming the comms antenna seen here will be fitted on the next class of IN frigates?
 
I hope I am wrong but I am starting to feel that IN might ditch MFSTAR + MRSAM for P-17 class. First ship was commissioned in 2011 and they gave clearance of Brahmos for the ship which will go onboard during the MLU which should happen this decade. It is again going the P-15 route. Or there is a possibility that they give clearance in the future for the MFSTAR.
 
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