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That is not what the women says and when did the commies become sensible?

In that case let the collector submit report.

And I guess they are far sensible than the gutter gas theorist & gobar plutonium extractors.
 
Says someone who was offended by an atheist's cartoon. 🤣


You used the same in one sentence. I asked what they have to do with each other.
I wrote all that stuff cz u lied that anti CAA isnt anti Hindu in one of the messages above.
And btw Athiests are considered apostates so prone to flogging or stoning in your beloved peaceful regimes
 
I wrote all that stuff cz u lied that anti CAA isnt anti Hindu in one of the messages above.
And btw Athiests are considered apostates so prone to flogging or stoning in your beloved peaceful regimes
He's a Syrian Christian who loves having the last word. Don't deny him his little pleasures.
 
He's a Syrian Christian who loves having the last word. Don't deny him his little pleasures.
Ohh i get it , i thought he is a dhimmi. He is forgetting that evn Christians are included in CAA. Anyways CAA is here to stay. No one csn even touch it.
 
Given that 63% of Kerala's migrant labourers come from viraat hindu homelands, there is very little chance of that happening. But whatever.

You've had this habit of conflating two different strands of argument when you have nothing to offer even earlier. Go back and refer to what I posted in response to what you posted.


My bad. It's 7, not 10 years old.


I specifically referred to the clip embedded within the tweet I posted . You have come up with a brand new video. But keep obfuscating.

Calculate the population growth rate with the birth rate and death rate of different communities in 2015.

But since you are too lazy...

Kerala: Muslims will be double the number of Christians by 2051

Hindus 49.5%, Christians 16% & Muslims 34% in 2051.
And when the births as recorded in 0-4 age group for Muslims in both 2001 & 2011 census's are much more than the birth rates of Hindus, it'd still be a Hindu majority land all the way in 2051 with a 49% population when the TFR of Hindus have fallen below replacement levels even in the 2001 census if I'm not mistaken.


As I said earlier, I'm not researching on the correlation between percentage of Muslims and radicalization. So who am I to know ?
Neither am I. I'm going by reportages exclusively. You resorted to whataboutery when I questioned if there was absolutely no co relationship between the proportion of Muslims to radicalization.

Age group 17-19 counts in TFR data. What's your point ?

Also,



My point is higher TFRs for Muslims as compared to non Muslims. Is that so hard to understand?
Guess buffaloes are not considered cattle over there.
The issue since Vedic times has always been the Cow & not the Buffalo. Why? I've no clue.


The point is some violence being better than others because of the 'open, liberal nature' of perpetrators' religion.

And some impositions being better than others due to the same reason.

That's your reading of it. Not mine. Don't impose your version on my views.
 
I specifically referred to the clip embedded within the tweet I posted . You have come up with a brand new video. But keep obfuscating.

It's the same video, genius. 🤣

How long will you fool around denying the obvious ? Your video was found uploaded on YouTube on Aug 2013.



The issue since Vedic times has always been the Cow & not the Buffalo. Why? I've no clue.

The issue from ancient times to this day is religious sentiments surrounding the cow, not cattle theft or dairy farming.

The reason for cow related violence is NOT

That's your reading of it. Not mine. Don't impose your version on my views.

Eh ? That's exactly what you said

You're damned right I'm concerned about religious supremacy of those religions which proclaim they've a monopoly over salvation & other paths are roads to damnation.

Implying religious supremacy & extremism of liberal polytheistic religions is perfectly fine.

My point is higher TFRs for Muslims as compared to non Muslims. Is that so hard to understand?

The point is TFR for Muslims in Kerala too is showing a decreasing trend and have reached below replacement levels. Is it so hard to understand ?

You've had this habit of conflating two different strands of argument when you have nothing to offer even earlier.

The argument was originally a Shariah compliant apartment complex & migrants in Kerala being Bangladeshis.

This is what you came up with after learning that the builder is a Hindu & 67% of the migrant population in KL being definitely not Bengalis.

Falling percentages of Hindu population vis a vis rising population of Muslims in Kerala & migration into & outside of Kerala.

6 out of every 10 migrants to Kerala are from states other than WB & Assam. Even if you assume every immigrant from WB/Assam to be an illegal Muslim Bangladeshi, you still have more 'Hindu migrants' coming in.
 
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And when the births as recorded in 0-4 age group for Muslims in both 2001 & 2011 census's are much more than the birth rates of Hindus, it'd still be a Hindu majority land all the way in 2051 with a 49% population when the TFR of Hindus have fallen below replacement levels even in the 2001 census if I'm not mistaken.

Maths never helped Einstein discover gravity or Schrodinger discover genetics, but...

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Even if you look at the past trends, I see no reason for alarm.

Fertility rates in Kerala (NFHS 4)

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This is NFHS 2

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The trends can clearly be understood. And the reason for muslim births being higher than the percentage of their population despite having only slightly less TFR too can be understood.


You resorted to whataboutery

Lol, says some someone who resorted to whataboutery after it was shown that TFR of Muslims in Kerala is much lower than the best, hindu dominated districts of Hindi belt.

An average illiterate BIMARU from those regions with high TFR would be the ones who would support 'extermination of minorities' or cow lynchings or India being made into a hindu rashtra.

The same cretins were seen asking for central aid to beef eating Kerala. And I see that the central government have happily complied.

Or they might become the next Aditya Rao or Pragya Singh Thakur. I don't see anything stopping them.
He's a Syrian Christian who loves having the last word. Don't deny him his little pleasures.

Are you saying that Kerala would be in trouble after famine & literal starvation deaths happen in BIMARU land ?
 
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It's the same video, genius. 🤣

How long will you fool around denying the obvious ? Your video was found uploaded on YouTube on Aug 2013.




I stand corrected. How about Al Kabeer being owned by Hindus?


AL KABEER EXPORTS PRIVATE LIMITED - Company, directors and contact details | Zauba Corp

The issue from ancient times to this day is religious sentiments surrounding the cow, not cattle theft or dairy farming.

The reason for cow related violence is NOT

Not what ? The issue began once India faced Islamic conquests & later by the Portuguese & other Europeans. Yes, the same ones who wrecked havoc with the Syro Malabar church causing rifts which haven't healed till date. Incidentally, one of the reasons why non Hindus including Arabs, Christians, Jews, etc were given sanctuary was because they expressly promised not to slaughter cows. This was one of the preconditions.As the rule of the local traditional Hindu dynasties weakened, particularly after the Portuguese onslaught, these taboos weakened too.

Eh ? That's exactly what you said



Implying religious supremacy & extremism of liberal polytheistic religions is perfectly fine.

Implying? Calling out Abrahamic religions for claiming superiority of their own kind, actively proselytizing using every trick in the trade to gain converts by treading on the faultines of Hinduism is now automatically construed by you to be religious supremacy & extremism of polytheistic religion ? Seems like another one from the playbook of anti CAA protests . Accuse everyone else of intolerance and when caught practising the same put the burden of proof on the accused. Besides since when is a religion which believes in the Holy Trinity Monotheistic?

The point is TFR for Muslims in Kerala too is showing a decreasing trend and have reached below replacement levels. Is it so hard to understand ?
Yes it is. Coz the trends for non Muslims remains below replacement levels. Not so for Muslims.

Demographics of Kerala - Wikipedia
Jump to the birth rates. You'd get figures for as late as 2017. Do also check for TFR.

The Continuing Decline Of Hindus In Kerala

DGP Senkumar Was Right About The Changing Demography Of Kerala; Here’s The Data

The argument was originally a Shariah compliant apartment complex & migrants in Kerala being Bangladeshis.

This is what you came up with after learning that the builder is a Hindu & 67% of the migrant population in KL being definitely not Bengalis.
When I posted the complex would be Shariah compliant, I also implied they'd have to be built by Muslims in order to be qualified as Halal & those Muslims could well be Bangladeshi Muslims. You posted figures saying that barring 33% who hailed from WB & Assam the remaining 67% came from viraat Hindu homelands up North.


6 out of every 10 migrants to Kerala are from states other than WB & Assam. Even if you assume every immigrant from WB/Assam to be an illegal Muslim Bangladeshi, you still have more 'Hindu migrants' coming in.
Those Hindus don't qualify in building a Halal Apartment which isn't Halal to begin with if the owner of the Project is a Hindu. So there.
 
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Maths never helped Einstein discover gravity or Schrodinger discover genetics, but...

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Even if you look at the past trends, I see no reason for alarm.

Fertility rates in Kerala (NFHS 4)

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This is NFHS 2

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The trends can clearly be understood. And the reason for muslim births being higher than the percentage of their population despite having only slightly less TFR too can be understood.
Already posted what I had to on the previous thread. Not interested in repetition.


Lol, says some someone who resorted to whataboutery after it was shown that TFR of Muslims in Kerala is much lower than the best, hindu dominated districts of Hindi belt.

An average illiterate BIMARU from those regions with high TFR would be the ones who would support 'extermination of minorities' or cow lynchings or India being made into a hindu rashtra.

The same cretins were seen asking for central aid to beef eating Kerala. And I see that the central government have happily complied.

Or they might become the next Aditya Rao or Pragya Singh Thakur. I don't see anything stopping them.
Frankly what happens to the Bimaru states as you put it, least bother me. I don't hail from there . You'd have to tag @Arvind or @BlackOpsIndia for what transpires there. Kerala is next door to my home state. I'd be damned if in 2 decades it's going to go green with a vengeance. I've also kin in Kasargode & Kannur & they aren't in the least bit happy with the way things are going especially as they're wedged between an unrelenting party called the Commies & another being an increasingly fundamentalist Muslim religion. Getting out is not an option as they're deeply invested there.

I think news that the Central Government released some INR 1.5k Crore was in the news a few weeks ago with a punchline that Pinarayi didn't utilise the funds & was content to blame the Center for lack of funds. But facts mustn't interrupt your narrative. You want to believe Kerala is being denied aid for being different. For being inhospitable to the BJP, for electing the Quamrades, for defying Hindu stereotypes like consuming beef. Be my guest.


62% of Kerala's MLAs face criminal cases: ADR | India News - Times of India

Pragya Singh Thakur & the other Johnny you've named is right. At least these guys can claim Bimaru status. What's your excuse, O denizen of God's own country with the best health & HDI indicators with near cent per cent literacy.

Are you saying that Kerala would be in trouble after famine & literal starvation deaths happen in BIMARU land ?

I'm saying you're in trouble even if starvation doesn't haunt your land. Nor floods.
 
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Guess Satish Sabharwal is a Syrian Christian.

The petitioner-appellant carrying on the business of exporting frozen meat of buffaloes, sheep and goat, sought to establish an abattoir, meat processing plant and a cold storage in a riots prone area near Bombay

Satish Sabharwal & Ors V. State Of Maharashtra | India | Asian Encyclopedia of Law

I stand corrected.

Could have just played both videos for a few seconds & avoided flogging the dead horse thrice.

When I posted the complex would be Shariah compliant, I also implied they'd have to be built by Muslims in order to be qualified as Halal

I don't see such conditions being mentioned anywhere in the original article. Is there any source?

In a first, ‘shariah compliant’ apartments to come up in Kerala | Kochi News - Times of India

Not what ?

'Poor famer defending his cattle from the evil smuggler'.

The issue began once India faced Islamic conquests & later by the Portuguese & other Europeans.

What does any of that have to do with violence over cow & beef happening in 21st century India ?

Charlie Hebdo attackers too can come up with similar excuses.

Implying? Calling out Abrahamic religions for claiming superiority of their own kind, actively proselytizing using every trick in the trade to gain converts by treading on the faultines of Hinduism is now automatically construed by you to be religious supremacy & extremism of polytheistic religion ?

All this verbal diarrhoea doesn't negate the fact that.

1. There is hindu extremism.
2. You claimed it's not concern compared with other religious extremism.
 
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Yes it is. Coz the trends for non Muslims remains below replacement levels. Not so for Muslims.

Err...what ?

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But as I said earlier, Maths didn't help Einstein discover gravity. So leave all that.

Already posted what I had to on the previous thread. Not interested in repetition.

Again, math never helped Heisenberg discover evolution as well.

I think I have given the data for proving my point , which despite your blatant denial holds good.

I guess it's time for you to provide data backing your claims.